If this is still available on Aug 31, I will buy this. That's the day I will be doing the house closing. I just wonder how heavy this is and if delivery will include setup. However major issue is lamp life which is typicaly 1000-1500 hours only. This translates to yearly change of the lamp which can be quite expensive. See LCOS.
Product Description If youre ready to move up to the highest quality large screen high-definition TV the 65-inch LCoS Olevia 565H HDTV is the ideal choice for home or business - packed with the industrys top technology and innovative Olevia-first features. Delivering best-in-class video and audio its heart is the 6-megapixel Brillian UltraContrast LCoS light engine. Three 1920x1080 pixel LCoS microdisplays each with 90% fill factor (or use of the active pixel area) 4ms response time and up to 4000:1 Sequential Contrast Ratio ensure that rainbow effects and screen-door appearance of alternative technologies are eliminated. Video processing is powered by state-of-the-art PixelWorks DNX (Digital Natural Expression) technology. Additionally the 565H features both DVI & HDMI inputs enabling support from 480i to 1080p content three digital/analog tuners (1-ATSC/2-NTSC) for over-the-air broadcast TV signals support for QAM Clear Digital Cable input plus a super-wide 170-degree viewing angle.Its rich set of video and audio connectors enable the Olevia 565H to display everything - high-definition digital broadcast and digital cable TV and widescreen movies (up to 1080p resolution) standard analog TV action sports video games and home videos - with stunningly crisp and vibrant imagery and realistic and immersive sound. This 65-inch HDTV can even double as a computer display with 1920x1080 resolution utilizing the VGA DVI or HDMI inputs. The 565H horizontal (or bottom) mounted speakers complement its D2 Audio surround sound audio processor which makes theater-quality digital audio part of this outstanding entertainment experience.
Wish I had a room big enough I think I speak for all FWers when I say BUILD a room big enough.
flight23
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2007 @ 7:00p
gerrond said: If this is still available on Aug 31, I will buy this. That's the day I will be doing the house closing. I just wonder how heavy this is and if delivery will include setup. However major issue is lamp life which is typicaly 1000-1500 hours only. This translates to yearly change of the lamp which can be quite expensive. See LCOS.
That 1000-1500 hour lamp life refers only to LCOS Projectors, not LCOS Televisions. There's no way any manufacturer would be able to get away with a television that needed repair once per year...
The 50" Olevia LCOS I have seen with a quoted 10,000 hour lamp life which at 3 hours per day comes out to almost 10 years.
Metric said: its big but rear projection is nearing its end.
I used to think that too until I saw the Sony SXRD LCOS televisions. Those are nicer IMO than a majority of the flat panels. As long as there is a price premium on flat panels the projection TVs will survive.
flight23 said: gerrond said: If this is still available on Aug 31, I will buy this. That's the day I will be doing the house closing. I just wonder how heavy this is and if delivery will include setup. However major issue is lamp life which is typicaly 1000-1500 hours only. This translates to yearly change of the lamp which can be quite expensive. See LCOS.
That 1000-1500 hour lamp life refers only to LCOS Projectors, not LCOS Televisions. There's no way any manufacturer would be able to get away with a television that needed repair once per year...
The 50" Olevia LCOS I have seen with a quoted 10,000 hour lamp life which at 3 hours per day comes out to almost 10 years.
Thanks for the correction. 10,000 hour lamp life is not bad though not as good as other technologies.
flight23
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2007 @ 7:41p
True, but plasma decreases in brightness over time. LCD is probably the best all around but still the most expensive.
Even at 8 hours per day this should last 4 years before bulb replacement and for most people 8 hours takes 3-4 days at least. I just wish I could see this TV in person somewhere.
bobfather
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2007 @ 7:55p
flight23 said: True, but plasma decreases in brightness over time. LCD is probably the best all around but still the most expensive.
Even at 8 hours per day this should last 4 years before bulb replacement and for most people 8 hours takes 3-4 days at least. I just wish I could see this TV in person somewhere.
Actually, LCDs have a cold-cathode fluorescent light (CCFL) that degrades fairly quickly as well, and is not user-replaceable. The horribleness of CCFLs is a big reason that LED backlights are quickly becoming the norm in good laptops, and will probably be the norm in all LCDs given a couple years.
bobfather said: flight23 said: True, but plasma decreases in brightness over time. LCD is probably the best all around but still the most expensive.
Even at 8 hours per day this should last 4 years before bulb replacement and for most people 8 hours takes 3-4 days at least. I just wish I could see this TV in person somewhere.
Actually, LCDs have a cold-cathode fluorescent light (CCFL) that degrades fairly quickly as well, and is not user-replaceable. The horribleness of CCFLs is a big reason that LED backlights are quickly becoming the norm in good laptops, and will probably be the norm in all LCDs given a couple years.True. But, life span of TV does not really matter these days for fatwalleter. You will probably replace your TV with newer bigger TV in few years. You just can't pass the hot deals at FW. LOL
welphd said: looks like this syntax company comes out of nowhere to challenge big guys like sony, samsung.
syntax has been around for a good 4-5 years. I have the olevia 30" from them that I bought 4 years ago and to this day its still going great and I use it as my main computer monitor. for the price, you cant beat the performance
Metric said: its big but rear projection is nearing its end.
You've got that so wrong. Flat Panels of the same performance and size are so far outside of projection TV's price range. They will be around for a good long while.
vfrjim
Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2007 @ 8:55p
flight23 said: gerrond said: If this is still available on Aug 31, I will buy this. That's the day I will be doing the house closing. I just wonder how heavy this is and if delivery will include setup. However major issue is lamp life which is typicaly 1000-1500 hours only. This translates to yearly change of the lamp which can be quite expensive. See LCOS.
That 1000-1500 hour lamp life refers only to LCOS Projectors, not LCOS Televisions. There's no way any manufacturer would be able to get away with a television that needed repair once per year...
The 50" Olevia LCOS I have seen with a quoted 10,000 hour lamp life which at 3 hours per day comes out to almost 10 years.
ONCE a year, heck, my DLP gets 6000+ hours a year, that would be one expensive TV if I had to change the bulb 4 times a year...
flight23
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2007 @ 8:57p
Your TV is on 16 hours a day?
How is that possible, football is only on for 4 months!
vfrjim
Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2007 @ 9:07p
flight23 said: Your TV is on 16 hours a day?
How is that possible, football is only on for 4 months!
yep, you take care of your senior citizen parent and your TV will stay on that much, Tweeter lost money on me when I purchsed the extended warranty on my Samsung DLP 5 years ago, it now has over 25000 hours on it.
Bmr4life said: Metric said: its big but rear projection is nearing its end.
You've got that so wrong. Flat Panels of the same performance and size are so far outside of projection TV's price range. They will be around for a good long while.
I dont think its 'so wrong'; but I guess lcos is the exception to the rule. Different strokes I guess but I couldnt live with the depth I dont think.
*Edit* reading more I guess I am ill informed, seems dlp is still going strong with large 1080p displays
flight23
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2007 @ 10:08p
I havent seen any DLP projections that match up with the LCOS sets... Other than the Sony SXRD I pretty much swore off projection televisions. Hopefully the other LCOS sets like this Olevia are similar in quality.
killacamry
Broke Member
posted: Aug. 25, 2007 @ 3:56a
i am seriously considering rearanging my apartment to figure out if this will work
Epik
Member
posted: Aug. 25, 2007 @ 5:09a
If you've never heard of Syntax Olevia just look up the reviews for their 47" LCD: 747i.
It upscales standard def content to 1080p better than any other TV in the world. Check out the AVS thread.
That's page 2 of the thread, scroll down for some pictures of the set in action.
ETA: Free shipping too. Just searched Froogle and the cheapest for this runs about $1900-2000 including shipping.
If you can fit in the room it's big enough! My brother has a 65" Sony in his 8x10 living room, it's like a friggin' mini movie theater
Sethro3
Addicted Member
posted: Aug. 25, 2007 @ 9:39a
flight23 said: Metric said: its big but rear projection is nearing its end.
I used to think that too until I saw the Sony SXRD LCOS televisions. Those are nicer IMO than a majority of the flat panels. As long as there is a price premium on flat panels the projection TVs will survive.
I haven't seen it yet, but 4 (yes four) of my friends just ordered this 60" Sony from @m@zon. It's currently $1800- down from $2800. We're a bunch of A/V geeks that typically steer clear of Sony because you pay for the brand name, but apparently the picture is the best they've seen. Luckily, my roommate is one of them, so I'm anxiously waiting for the delivery.
i have had my 30in olevia that i got way back when halo 2 came out, actually i bought it just for that game. now im a well addicted halo 2 fan, so i believe i may have put in a few hrs every now and then and wat do you know its still working never came across any problems except that fact that its not as high def as my 23in samsung. but hey they cost the same price so wat can you expect for a mid end lcd.
other than that, this tv is fugly and i rather have an lcd tv.
tigerbait
Thrifty Member
posted: Aug. 25, 2007 @ 12:55p
flight23 said: Are all of the Sony SXRD tvs LCOS?
Yes, SXRD is Sony's trademark name for their LCoS technology.
only1n
New Member
posted: Aug. 25, 2007 @ 5:59p
I have bought from them before and have had no complaints thus far. Great TV. Cant wait for this one.....
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