Question about moving residence: I rite now live in an Apartment and most likely be moving in the next 6 to 12 months. What if there is no Verizon FIOS service at the place i move to, does the early termination fee still apply. I talked to a rep and she said they will x'fer the service and there will be no early termination fee if they cant provide the service. Not that i dont believe the the rep but I like to hear it from fellow FW'ers.

I am an existing FIOS internet and cable TV customer and the offer i received is only good if i sign up for 2 years.

TIA

lowpricewanted said:I guess the gift cards make up for the extra $60 - $100 on the yearly electric bill for all the STBs and FIOS hardware. Sigh ...

LOL Show those facts!!!

ggrr8t said:slinkydooky said:people need to read up on the reviews of fios tv. the reviews have been poor for the stb software. beware!
I have, and have yet to see any complaints on picture quality this is the types of reviews I have been coming up with over and over.
"Quality: Standard definition channels are as good as it gets as far as I’ve seen. High definition channels are also as good as I’ve seen. Verizon will have a real competitive advantage over cable and satellite providers when it comes to picture quality thanks to the ample bandwidth that FiOS can provide" at http://www.defefx.com/verizon-fios-tv/.
Pretty much the same on any sites I checked. Do a google search on "fios tv"+review, and you can confirm this. Can you provide any links? Thanks

http://www.pvrblog.com/pvr/2005/10/verizon_fios_tv.html

Hundreds of reviews from people who have fios tv. The general consensus is that the dvr software needs a HUGE upgrade. Buyer beware indeed!! This is why I'm waiting for a major overhaul. These types of deals will always be there. Look at Comcast.

I would do it if Verizon would pay my ETF with DTV

slinkydooky said:Sounds like it is still best to wait a little before getting Fios if you are worried about picture quality and the dvr software. Hopefully they will fix this soon. And do away with the required contract. That's ridiculous! Comcast has them beat right now due to their dvr and no need for a contract.
NO question you must work for cable. all you have done is down FIOS or posters that say good things about it. When another asked you for proof about your post that there are 100's of complaints, you posted a single link to a post from 2005, that was 2 years ago, as the other poster noted, that was when FIOS was unveiled.
You say the picture quality is no good...come on, go to any audio video forum web site and they all attest to the quality of the picture. competition is good! lying because you are afraid of the competition is not so good.

ggrr8t said:daweeze002 said:I would do it if Verizon would pay my ETF with DTV

Get them to buy out your car lease too, what the heck!

Haha well if they want me bad enough as a customer you never know

ggrr8t said:slinkydooky said:ggrr8t said:slinkydooky said:people need to read up on the reviews of fios tv. the reviews have been poor for the stb software. beware!
I have, and have yet to see any complaints on picture quality this is the types of reviews I have been coming up with over and over.
"Quality: Standard definition channels are as good as it gets as far as I’ve seen. High definition channels are also as good as I’ve seen. Verizon will have a real competitive advantage over cable and satellite providers when it comes to picture quality thanks to the ample bandwidth that FiOS can provide" at http://www.defefx.com/verizon-fios-tv/.
Pretty much the same on any sites I checked. Do a google search on "fios tv"+review, and you can confirm this. Can you provide any links? Thanks

http://www.pvrblog.com/pvr/2005/10/verizon_fios_tv.html

Hundreds of reviews from people who have fios tv. The general consensus is that the dvr software needs a HUGE upgrade. Buyer beware indeed!! This is why I'm waiting for a major overhaul. These types of deals will always be there. Look at Comcast.

Thanks...All I care about is picture quality. Never was into TiVo, dvr, etc... . Oh...and the link you gave me is over 2 years old, that was when FIOS TV was unveiled. That blog reveiew was from october 10th of 2005.
When I used cablevison for TV and internet, I had troubles on my hidef tv, I got mucho pixelation ,and freeze up. That is due to lack of bandwidth. When I dumped optonline for FIOS internet, The freezing up and pixelation troubles were not nearly as bad. I guess that is because all the bandwidth on cable in my house just goes to th TV now. I know for a fact the bandwidth FIOS has over cablevison, is like comparing a fire house to a garden hose. I can't wait to get it.

If you are into extra functions and DVR check out what VZ has coming b4 end of year...
VZ GADGETS AND UPGRADES, remoted dvr, etc...

You have to scroll down. These are reviews from people who currently have fios tv, and there are reviews as recent as this week, so it gives a pretty recent picture of what is going on with fios tv. The subpar dvr and the 2 year contract are what is holding me back. Once these things are fixed, I might give fios a shot.

lowpricewanted said:MisterMet said:lowpricewanted said:I guess the gift cards make up for the extra $60 - $100 on the yearly electric bill for all the STBs and FIOS hardware. Sigh ...



LOL Show those facts!!!

Go get yourself a Kill-A-Watt meter and plug your boxes into it then do the math. My comcast box costs me $12 a year just plugged in and not doing anything. If I was in NY or CA it would be $25. Fios makes you get a box for every TV plus you pay the electric bill for their equipment to generate dial tone and coax signals. The cable company at least covers the cost of the coax power.

MisterMet said:lowpricewanted said:MisterMet said:lowpricewanted said:I guess the gift cards make up for the extra $60 - $100 on the yearly electric bill for all the STBs and FIOS hardware. Sigh ...



LOL Show those facts!!!

Go get yourself a Kill-A-Watt meter and plug your boxes into it then do the math. My comcast box costs me $12 a year just plugged in and not doing anything. If I was in NY or CA it would be $25. Fios makes you get a box for every TV plus you pay the electric bill for their equipment to generate dial tone and coax signals. The cable company at least covers the cost of the coax power.

 

I am an electrician and can tell you you numbers are screwed. How can you assume verizon boxes use more electric than cable companies. Basically your post says unless using a free air antanna your waisting money on boxes. You get charged for those no matter what service you are using

Sorry Mr. Electrician but my numbers are right on. Just plugged in box to Kill-A-Watt meter and its drawing 20 watts turned off. So thats 20 watts x 24 hours x 365 days /1000 = 175 kWh x 0.07 cents = $12.25 just to have it plugged in where I live for the year. Of course if you live in the northeast it could be 3 times that price. My box is a General Instruments box but the Motorola platform that Verizon and Comcast use currently are both similar I would guess they are in the same ball park and probably more for the DVR. Now with comcast I only need one box because they send 80 channels in analog so I save there. Also comcast pays for the electric for the Coax so I save big there. When I get a chance I will test out my neighbor's FIOS box but my bet is that it uses much more power as its quite warm to the touch.

With 3 boxes and the FIOS equipment(oh yeah that cable modem too!) I will stand by my original statement of $60 to $100 per year.

slinkydooky said:ggrr8t said:slinkydooky said:ggrr8t said:slinkydooky said:people need to read up on the reviews of fios tv. the reviews have been poor for the stb software. beware!
I have, and have yet to see any complaints on picture quality this is the types of reviews I have been coming up with over and over.
"Quality: Standard definition channels are as good as it gets as far as I’ve seen. High definition channels are also as good as I’ve seen. Verizon will have a real competitive advantage over cable and satellite providers when it comes to picture quality thanks to the ample bandwidth that FiOS can provide" at http://www.defefx.com/verizon-fios-tv/.
Pretty much the same on any sites I checked. Do a google search on "fios tv"+review, and you can confirm this. Can you provide any links? Thanks

http://www.pvrblog.com/pvr/2005/10/verizon_fios_tv.html

Hundreds of reviews from people who have fios tv. The general consensus is that the dvr software needs a HUGE upgrade. Buyer beware indeed!! This is why I'm waiting for a major overhaul. These types of deals will always be there. Look at Comcast.

Thanks...All I care about is picture quality. Never was into TiVo, dvr, etc... . Oh...and the link you gave me is over 2 years old, that was when FIOS TV was unveiled. That blog reveiew was from october 10th of 2005.
When I used cablevison for TV and internet, I had troubles on my hidef tv, I got mucho pixelation ,and freeze up. That is due to lack of bandwidth. When I dumped optonline for FIOS internet, The freezing up and pixelation troubles were not nearly as bad. I guess that is because all the bandwidth on cable in my house just goes to th TV now. I know for a fact the bandwidth FIOS has over cablevison, is like comparing a fire house to a garden hose. I can't wait to get it.

If you are into extra functions and DVR check out what VZ has coming b4 end of year...
VZ GADGETS AND UPGRADES, remoted dvr, etc...

You have to scroll down. These are reviews from people who currently have fios tv, and there are reviews as recent as this week, so it gives a pretty recent picture of what is going on with fios tv. The subpar dvr and the 2 year contract are what is holding me back. Once these things are fixed, I might give fios a shot.

Then you will have no problems. If you read the link provided, that is being cleared up and some extras are being added. (vzgadgets and upgrades) But you DID mention questionable picture quality in another post. A neighbor switched from cable to FIOS tv and the picture is awesome. He no longer has pixelation and freeze ups, that is something I can't wait to clear up.