lillianlake said: through your link, it says "store pickup not available", but it may just be my location... Otherwise, I would jump in with a 10% coupon...
Pick it up in store to use the 12%, it's in their ad this week. You have to buy it in store to use any coupons. Price will be 129.99, use the 12 percent coupon you will walk out with vista, and a $50 gift card.
psuJC said: Pick it up in store to use the 12%, it's in their ad this week. You have to buy it in store to use any coupons. Price will be 129.99, use the 12 percent coupon you will walk out with vista, and a $50 gift card.
And your rearend will be sore because you just spent $129.99 plus tax - 12% for a gift card and a crappy operating system worse than the previous operating system.
dhishi
New Member
posted: Dec. 30, 2007 @ 10:07a
Very true - Vista is an expensive piece of junk. I have vista and had to purchase new printers and other hardware components as the drivers available for vista are not 100% compatible. You have to buy new hardware with the Vista logo.
dhishi said: Very true - Vista is an expensive piece of junk. I have vista and had to purchase new printers and other hardware components as the drivers available for vista are not 100% compatible. You have to buy new hardware with the Vista logo.Yes, it's a shame your MFM hard drives, parallel printers, 300 baud modem and ISA expansion boards didn't last forever.
psuJC said: Link for reference Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade Pick up in store to use 12% coupon.
Math 129.99 -15.60 (12% Reward zone coupon Discussion Here or from reward zone packet. -50.00 gift card (to be used on future purchase) =64.39
YMMV on using 12% coupon on sale price Whatever your math is, DO NOT go for an upgrade from your XP system, no matter how much you pay fo rir, it is not worth moving to Vista. Vista came with a laptop I got recently and man, this thing sukz really bad.
titewad said: dhishi said: Very true - Vista is an expensive piece of junk. I have vista and had to purchase new printers and other hardware components as the drivers available for vista are not 100% compatible. You have to buy new hardware with the Vista logo.Yes, it's a shame your MFM hard drives, parallel printers, 300 baud modem and ISA expansion boards didn't last forever.
Who runs MFM drives?! Everyone knows you get more storage with RLL. DUH!
Whatever your math is, DO NOT go for an upgrade from your XP system, no matter how much you pay fo rir, it is not worth moving to Vista. Vista came with a laptop I got recently and man, this thing sukz really bad.
Really? I had XP MCE and it had some pretty serious stability problems. I built a new machine with Vista (HPrem.) for MCE, and it had been extremely stable and useful. I can't deny that MS has gone off the deep end with file permissions, but that's been the only real issue. Then again, I've set my desktop theme to Windows Classic ever since I "upgraded" from WinNT, so I'm not confused by where the OS interface has chosen to hide things.
Best Buy will not allow the 12% coupon and give you the $50 gift card. They're set up to only allow on "promotion." I tried a couple weeks back when Vista Ultimate was on sale with a $75 gift card.
titewad said: dhishi said: Very true - Vista is an expensive piece of junk. I have vista and had to purchase new printers and other hardware components as the drivers available for vista are not 100% compatible. You have to buy new hardware with the Vista logo.Yes, it's a shame your MFM hard drives, parallel printers, 300 baud modem and ISA expansion boards didn't last forever.
Sarcasm aside, drivers for most hardware, modern and "legacy", are either bundled with Vista or can usually be found with the "internet search" option in Device Manager. More significant are software application incompatibilities that either can't or won't be addressed, meaning that many users will need to abandon favorite programs in order to run an OS that has few innovations and in-your-face "pseudo-security." M$ brags that fewer illegal copies of Vista are being used. What they don't get is that computer-savvy hackers are simply not interested. Seriously, if M$ didn't essentially dictate that all new PC's come with Vista, would anyone else be either?
Excuse my ignorance. What's the difference between the upgrade disc and the regular Vista Home Premium disc? Is there any disadvantage on upgrade disc?
Instead of "upgrading" to Vista, people should just remove half their memory and change the Windows color scheme. It will save them $75 and give them the same experience.
cyfan2000 said: Instead of "upgrading" to Vista, people should just remove half their memory and change the Windows color scheme. It will save them $75 and give them the same experience. Sorry, I needed an OS that could take advantage of my 8GB of memory. I don't think I could experience that through your method.
Be aware that the 64-bit edition is not in the box, you have to send ~$15 to Microsoft and they'll ship the disc.
Depending on what you are wanting to do your experience will be very much YMMV.
Don't get me wrong, lots of technology improvements. The day will come when Vista will be a must. And for those that don't have big needs, Vista will be fine within reason.
Those on the bleeding edge, Vista driver rearchitechture was way too much for most hardware vendors to handle even a year after. I still don't know why nVidia cant fix a simple sleep mode bug w/their video card driver.
The memory management improved but seem less robust than XP. It's causing lost of game compatibility problems and perforamnce problems. Don't do Vista for gaming. I tried. I really tried and had to throw in the towel on Supreme Commander.
Oh, and don't get me started on wave/stereo mix output recording. Depending on your driver vendor, my latest one decided for me that I should not be able to record what I'm hearing from my wave out regardless of what it is. That's simply inexcusible...
dealoffatwallet
Greedy Member
posted: Dec. 30, 2007 @ 3:59p
probably day might come when everyone might use vista...(when Bill gates starts earning thousands of billion dollars instead of 50-60 billion dollars). one thing for sure..at present at upgrading vista freely itself is a bad deal. Probably after 6 months it m ight change but i think you can still get vista for same price at that time. first of all 1) you need atleast 2gb ram 2) minumum of 80gb hard drive( considering you wont use your comp for storage purpose and also you not into software like SAP)
this vista software definetly going rip money from ordinary people here. We still have millions of people who live on minumum wages, they can afford a small computer but cannot buy each and every software... Just my thoughts....
rpreslar
Member
posted: Dec. 30, 2007 @ 9:42p
I think some might be missing the final cost. It is only 30.00 off. You are buying the 50.gift card!!
from BB website in the middle of the page
50 Best Buy gift card (good toward future purchase) ($159.99 software + $50 gift card = $209.99 - $50 gift card savings - $30 savings = $129.99 final price
I didn't read if anyone else was actually successful in getting the 12% Off and $50 Gift Card so I tried it this evening. SHOT DOWN!
As an earlier poster (supersnoop00) stated, combining a coupon and getting a gift card with purchase would not work and they are correct. It's built into the system, folks! You can't do 2 promotions at the same time! The person who rang me up put in the coupon, but it wouldn't provide the gift card.
titewad said: dhishi said: Very true - Vista is an expensive piece of junk. I have vista and had to purchase new printers and other hardware components as the drivers available for vista are not 100% compatible. You have to buy new hardware with the Vista logo.Yes, it's a shame your MFM hard drives, parallel printers, 300 baud modem and ISA expansion boards didn't last forever.
For the record, Vista has many problems even on newer hardware. As a computer technician, I always upgrade to the newest Microsoft OS as soon as it's released, but with all of the horror stories about Vista I decided to change my normal routine and go with a brand new quad core PC with Vista pre-installed, and fresh installs of all new Vista ready apps. despite my precautions, I still have many problems with Vista. Quite simply, it is a terrible OS for a true multitasking power user.
With the latest performance and stability updates, it is finally pretty much fine for most all average users and gamers, but for those of us who run multiple CPU and ram intensive apps like Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Contribute and Word along with a few dozen browser windows it just is embarrassingly unstable. (Don't take it from me, the Editor in Chief of PC Magazine said the exact same thing.)
Anyway, back on topic. For those that don't have problems with Vista, or especially for those that are stuck with Windows Basic, then this is a good deal. I would not recommend anyone upgrading from XP to Vista directly, but if you are looking to upgrade a copy of Vista Basic, or even want to do a fresh install of Vista using one of the many available tricks to make the upgrade version a full version, and the current limitations of Vista do not affect you, then go for it.
eme223
Member
posted: Dec. 30, 2007 @ 10:09p
I got in on Vista last year when the offer was a free upgrade to Vista with purchase of XP operating system on Newegg. Even then, I believe I shelled out about $109 (but have licenses for 2 OS's). Anyway, here's my insight about the Vista upgrade disk (which I currently own and use). Normally, you can't do a clean install using the upgrade disk, but there is still a work around that works 100% of the time. I'm a huge fan of always making clean installs whenever needed as opposed to upgrading an existing OS. Anyway, insert your vista upgrade disk, reboot, and perform an install without entering the cd key or choosing the activate immediately method. Be sure to choose a full install as opposed to an upgrade install. Be aware that you won't be able to make a full install and activate using an upgrade product key (hence the workaround). Once the 1st install completes, choose to install again within Vista (eg load up to Vista then launch the cd from within the os). This time enter your CD key, choose to activate, and choose an upgrade install. Once finished, you'll have used your upgrade copy to create a full install of vista. On my setup, the whole process (2 installs total) takes about 45 minutes to an hour.
I think that's all the info you'd need, but I'm pretty sure google should help if I've missed something. And you can always just perform an upgrade install without all this hassle, but if you want to perform a clean install, this is pretty much the only way to do so with an upgrade disk...
HOWEVER, YMMV: I purchased the upgrade version of Vista when it first launched. I'd doubt that M$ changed how the upgrade process works, but if they did, then the clean install may not be an option.
Overall, I am pleased with Vista's performance over XP. It automates a few tasks that your average user would not think to (automatic defrag for instance). I have a pretty high end machine and hit some stability issues every now and then when running some of the latest games (universe at war atm), but that could very well have to do with the developer, as opposed to weak code in Vista.
thus
Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 30, 2007 @ 10:29p
lol if you have to mention autodefrag as a plus point for vista, it obviously didnt do much. I am a comp consultant and do programming on the side... Im sorry, I hate vista. Its amazing how microsoft decided to go with the release in its current state and even had the audacity to flaunt it. Its unstable, it cant handle half the amount of processes I do with xp and chews up memory like theres no tomorrow for the tiniest tasks.
I've been running Vista for almost a year, and have had very little problems with this new OS. The permissions to install anything do get a little annoying, but other than that it's a great OS. I did turn off the gadgets as well as the Aero look since I didnt want to take the performance hit for running these programs of little value.
I also really like Office 2007, although the interface - like most pieces of new technology - take a little getting used to.
Thanks for the deal on this OP, as some of us who like using new technology may be interested in this.
stisev
Ancient Member
posted: Dec. 30, 2007 @ 10:39p
vp1600 said: I am not sure if you can call switching to Vista an 'upgrade'.
haha best laugh I've had this week! you tell 'em, vp1600!
tazmania99 said: Excuse my ignorance. What's the difference between the upgrade disc and the regular Vista Home Premium disc? Is there any disadvantage on upgrade disc?
The upgrades are cheaper than the "regular" install discs. The upgrade discs are to upgrade an existing Windoze installation, but there is a clean install workaround: Wipe your hard drive, boot with the upgrade disc, and DO NOT enter the activation code UNTIL the install is complete. Vista will say, "Hey! You can't do that!", then run setup from within Vista and install it again. Sounds stupid but it works.
P.S.- I love the look and feel of Vista, but as of right now XP is the faster OS for almost all applications.
BigDave said: tazmania99 said: Excuse my ignorance. What's the difference between the upgrade disc and the regular Vista Home Premium disc? Is there any disadvantage on upgrade disc?
The upgrades are cheaper than the "regular" install discs. The upgrade discs are to upgrade an existing Windoze installation, but there is a clean install workaround: Wipe your hard drive, boot with the upgrade disc, and DO NOT enter the activation code UNTIL the install is complete. Vista will say, "Hey! You can't do that!", then run setup from within Vista and install it again. Sounds stupid but it works.
P.S.- I love the look and feel of Vista, but as of right now XP is the faster OS for almost all applications.
Great post, BigDave. Thanks.
Unfortunately, my Vista story is not good. I bought a new Acer Laptop w/ Vista Home Premium, and it sucked w/ 1gb of RAM, so I bought 2...
It was horrible: slow, didn't like all the contacts and e-mails I had in my MS-Outlook (another one of Bill's programs), and kept freezing.
BOTTOM LINE: I'm sick and tired of SPENDING ~$200 to beta test Bill Gates' "not ready for prime time junk" while he donated $$billions of my hard earned money to charity to make himself feel better. I'm going Linux (I may not have enough geeky expertise for that) or Apple or maybe Google can fix this mess. See you later, Microsoft!
rpreslar said: I think some might be missing the final cost. It is only 30.00 off. You are buying the 50.gift card!!
from BB website in the middle of the page
50 Best Buy gift card (good toward future purchase) ($159.99 software + $50 gift card = $209.99 - $50 gift card savings - $30 savings = $129.99 final price
Text LOL. Who cares if you are technically buying the GC, they are IR'ing that cost right back and you are still getting the $50 on the GC, not like they are giving you a $0.00 GC. You are forgetting to factor in the actual $50 on the GC itself... Hence it would "technically" be:
nikkai said: Honestly - I've been tempted lately solely due to Direct X 10. Someone tell me that it's not that impressive, please.
It's really not as impressive as people are being led to believe. Turns out all of those huge graphics improvements in Crysis when going from XP to Vista don't really require DX10 after all. People discovered that the VERY HIGH graphics settings could be re-enabled under Windows XP, and the graphics were then virtually identical under DX9 with a huge performance advantage when compared to running under DX10 to boot.
On top of that, there is also a hack that allows you to run DX10 under Windows XP - something that Microsoft has not surprisingly claimed was impossible. (Conveniently, Microsoft seems to claim incompetence whenever they don't want to do something, sort of like when they needlessly integrated Internet Explorer into Windows Explorer, and then claimed that it was also impossible to remove when ordered to do so by the courts.)
GWBush said: LOL, isn't that how every men get out of chores their wives wanna do? By botching jobs so badly it's never asked to be done again! LOL. Is that why GWBush started the Iraq war?
That looks familiar from back when I was looking at VISTA a year or so ago. I think the actual order site is: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx
And it doesn't seem to like Firefox or working with my settings anyway; they should just list the price before you go deep(er) into the order process.
When I checked a year or so ago it was around $10 to $15 or so (I forget exactly) total cost including shipping within the US for the 64 bit install DVD; maybe it's different now.
Looks like you can download the pre-release test candidate version of SP1 and make a CD of it rather than having to pull them all via internet update and then potentially having to wait for that again if you need to reinstall at some point. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2FA54665-7716-47D9-B9B7-5CFDF71198CB&displaylang=en
I'm guessing it'll be another month or so before the SP1 final version is out, though, and if you wait until 3 weeks or so after the release date you can probably order the 64 bit install media and hopefully then it'll come with SP1 preinstalled on that disc; you can install off the 64 bit install media, you don't need the 32 bit disc at all in that situation.
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