PacoDeth said:FWIW, I have noticed the daylight CFL's are simply pure/bright white, and don't resemble the bluish tint or bluish hues that the daylight incandescent bulbs had. I've got GE Daylight CFL's all over the house and the color they give off is amazing, blends in perfectly with real daylight.

I think it must be subjective. I tried out a daylight bulb (Sylvania, but doubt it's a difference) and the bluish light felt like something out of green house. Made me want to plant pot in my basement.

Also, don't we want to get into the actual color temperature of the bulb?

Silkymamma said:I saw on several of the news channels recently report health problems such as migraine headaches. lupus and depression being tied to these bulbs. Dr. Gupta on CNN is one I remember specifically. You might want to look it up. After I switched to the CFB in my kitchen the frequency and intensity of my migraine headaches increased. I just swapped out the bulbs and it's too early to tell if it has made an improvement. Just an FYI..
It's all in your head, literally. Both the wife and I suffer from migraines and have replaced all the bulbs in our house for the last 6 years with CFLs with no increase in migraines at all. Besides anyone who was that sensitive to flourescent light (changing one light to CFL) wouldn't be able to step foot in a retail store.

FWIW, F and CF bulbs emit some UV whereas incandescents don't. So you have to choose between mercury, flickering, poor CRI, and UV against incandescent's higher energy use. The risks are supposedly low, but they're there. GE says the UV rays are much less than the sun's, yet they turn all my white plastics into a nice yellow color.

sherrynews said:Our corporate master have dictated we move to mercury based, non-dimmable, slow-bright, environmental disaster-in-waiting CFLs (a 35 year-old technology).

Nevermind LED based lighting costs far less to make, can be configured without hazardous materials, disposed of safely, dim completely in all colors (except black), last virtually forever AND USES FAR LESS POWER! (A 20 year-old technology).

Organic LED like technologies (like your cell phone screen) -- add to paint on wall -- let your infant eat it -- dissolve to bread-crumbs -- (10 year old technology) FAR LESS POWER STILL!

What's new? ???

CFL last 5 years but they will be the greatest environmental disaster since disposable diapers (20+% of landfills on a product that did not exists 30 years ago -- undoing ALL recycling efforts of mankind -- viva pampers!) If you touch a broken bulb and the shards of sharp glass break your skin -- or your kids/animals skin -- you die from mercury poisining -- no ifs, ands or buts -- just death. Other health issues??? (I have heard -- though only rumor -- we may acutally prove -- not just believe but actually prove - in our lifetime's that smoking 50 cigartettes a day for several decades may not be beneficial to your health-- imagine that -- actual proof in our lifetimes!)

But hey -- people now make and sell LOTS AND LOTS of bulbs -- people who would gladly toxify any and everyone to maintain their near-term profit. That is their only job -- their sacred feed-my-babies mission.

Then there are those poor stakeholders who have made billions selling mercury products for years -- but those "tree-huggers" do not like how it tastes in fish. New mercury markets/applications are needed now! Those dead-enders want to go back to the horrible days when good right-thinking American's -- dare I say it -- "struggle for liquidity." How do you run the third vacation home with only four servants and no upstairs maid!

So let's skip what works best for humanity and opt for the "stability" of the "market." Besides, our master - the great powerful Wal's (WalMart and WallStreet) have issued our orders. Ours is but to comply. If we fail to follow our leaders blindly we can never hope to remain free!Wow. That's a lot of FUD in the morning Got links to studies in reputable journals, or are those just funded by the Wal's, and, therefore, to be disregarded as part of the propaganda machine? BTW, what works best: recycled or virgin tinfoil for your hats?

loppy said:FWIW, F and CF bulbs emit some UV whereas incandescents don't. So you have to choose between mercury, flickering, poor CRI, and UV against incandescent's higher energy use. The risks are supposedly low, but they're there. GE says the UV rays are much less than the sun's, yet they turn all my white plastics into a nice yellow color.

Agreed, I use a lot of CFLs and they have also faded some of my tabletops. If you have antique furniture or high end furniture that uses photochemically reactive stain there is enough UV coming out of some CFLs to make your table tops fade. This is one area where toning lacquer finishes such as most cheap furniture today is actually superior. It does appear in my limited testing that enclosed bulbs emit less as they see to have stopped the fading I was experiencing on some table tops. The CFLs can also cause real silk shades to crumble from what I assume is UV damage (since they shades were not bothered by the heat of incandsent lights. I for one, cannot wait until LED lights are cheaper and better.

So I would be very careful about using CFLs around antique/fine furniture or as spot lighting on prints, painting or other art work.

The 3-pk 23W Sylvania CFL at the store here in TN rang up $8.98, which was the regular marked price.
FYI, I also saw some Sylvania CFL's that said 'Instant on'.

I bought a GE dimmable CFL the other day, and it barely dims a little, before turning completly off.

Slickone said:The 3-pk 23W Sylvania CFL at the store here in TN rang up $8.98, which was the regular marked price.
FYI, I also saw some Sylvania CFL's that said 'Instant on'.

I bought a GE dimmable CFL the other day, and it barely dims a little, before turning completly off.

I saw them ring up 8.98 in NJ (Princeton) as well...

nah, i dont know, a buddy just sent me the link.. they dont have good reviews or anything but they're cheap...........

I love the idea of saving energy with CFLs, but man, do they suck. Last 5 years? HA, it seems that I replace them more often than incandescents, some flicker, they take long to brighten, the color is harsh, etc.... I hope they make some progress with energy efficient bulbs soon.

Slickone said:hiroler said:Bright Effects
13-Watt Mini Compact Fluorescent Bulb

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Showing $4.48 for me.

Add your zip code and will show .98. There is another whole thread on this deal.