k000 said: markj11 said: My local Lowes, Flowood, MS, had 3 pack 23Watt equivalent 100 on clearance from $12.98 to $1.98 this weekend.
Can you please tell which brand was it ?
Sylvania, it's in the title. Also, they were on the end caps towards the registers with other bulbs that were marked down. The other bulbs were only marked down a couple of dollars.
markj11 said: k000 said: markj11 said: My local Lowes, Flowood, MS, had 3 pack 23Watt equivalent 100 on clearance from $12.98 to $1.98 this weekend.
Can you please tell which brand was it ?
Sylvania, it's in the title. Also, they were on the end caps towards the registers with other bulbs that were marked down. The other bulbs were only marked down a couple of dollars.
Thanks.... my bad.
Are these soft white or day light type bulbs ? In other words are they bluish tinge or yellow ?
FWIW, I have noticed the daylight CFL's are simply pure/bright white, and don't resemble the bluish tint or bluish hues that the daylight incandescent bulbs had. I've got GE Daylight CFL's all over the house and the color they give off is amazing, blends in perfectly with real daylight.
ekroner said: Do they even make dimmable CFL? That's the only thing keeping me from swapping out all the bulbs in my house. Search here
spain1110
Member
posted: Jan. 7, 2008 @ 10:54a
Can anyone recommend a brand of CFL's that come on full force as soon as you turn the switch on? So far ones I have found have a delay time before full brightness comes on.
ekroner said: Do they even make dimmable CFL? That's the only thing keeping me from swapping out all the bulbs in my house. I bought dimmable ones, and I am not impressed. They don't dim much before making a loud buzzing noise. From 80% to 100% brightness, they seem fine, but what's the point? They DEFINITELY don't dim anywhere NEAR as well as incandescent.
spain1110 said: Can anyone recommend a brand of CFL's that come on full force as soon as you turn the switch on? So far ones I have found have a delay time before full brightness comes on.
DON'T BUY GE Brand CFL's. They take forever and a day to reach full brightness. The Home Depot house brand "n:vision" or something similar is quite fast at reaching full luminance.
Does the packaging say "mini-spiral"? And do you have the lowes SKU for them?
Thanks!
markj11 said: My local Lowes, Flowood, MS, had 3 pack 23Watt equivalent 100 on clearance from $12.98 to $1.98 this weekend.
Yelf
Member
posted: Jan. 7, 2008 @ 10:26p
I think you will be surprised to find that nearly all CF will take from 20-30 secs to ramp up to full brightness. Consumer reports did a test on CF not too long ago.
Silkymamma
Thrifty Member
posted: Jan. 7, 2008 @ 10:56p
I saw on several of the news channels recently report health problems such as migraine headaches. lupus and depression being tied to these bulbs. Dr. Gupta on CNN is one I remember specifically. You might want to look it up. After I switched to the CFB in my kitchen the frequency and intensity of my migraine headaches increased. I just swapped out the bulbs and it's too early to tell if it has made an improvement. Just an FYI..
Gupta might be an MD but not all medial doctors know everything. Show me a scientific study and not just some health professional reporting on something he read in some "home journal."
PacoDeth said: FWIW, I have noticed the daylight CFL's are simply pure/bright white, and don't resemble the bluish tint or bluish hues that the daylight incandescent bulbs had. I've got GE Daylight CFL's all over the house and the color they give off is amazing, blends in perfectly with real daylight.
I think it must be subjective. I tried out a daylight bulb (Sylvania, but doubt it's a difference) and the bluish light felt like something out of green house. Made me want to plant pot in my basement.
Also, don't we want to get into the actual color temperature of the bulb?
jotson said: ekroner said: Do they even make dimmable CFL? That's the only thing keeping me from swapping out all the bulbs in my house. I bought dimmable ones, and I am not impressed. They don't dim much before making a loud buzzing noise. From 80% to 100% brightness, they seem fine, but what's the point? They DEFINITELY don't dim anywhere NEAR as well as incandescent. Didn't have that problem with the ones that Home Depot was selling. But that is not their true purpose anyway, the dimmable CFLs are for use with timing circuits, X10 type controllers, ceiling fans, etc. to eliminate the blinking problem that standard CFLs have in those devices.
Silkymamma said: I saw on several of the news channels recently report health problems such as migraine headaches. lupus and depression being tied to these bulbs. Dr. Gupta on CNN is one I remember specifically. You might want to look it up. After I switched to the CFB in my kitchen the frequency and intensity of my migraine headaches increased. I just swapped out the bulbs and it's too early to tell if it has made an improvement. Just an FYI.. It's all in your head, literally. Both the wife and I suffer from migraines and have replaced all the bulbs in our house for the last 6 years with CFLs with no increase in migraines at all. Besides anyone who was that sensitive to flourescent light (changing one light to CFL) wouldn't be able to step foot in a retail store.
if your cfl's are blinking/clicking you are literally killing them! non-dimmable units do not go in photovoltaic (dawn to dusk) nor do they like rapid on/off (motion)
I just got a bunch of floodlight holders for $3.99 each and i'm going to run them off the westinghouse (target 75%) time based controllers to flood the whole house and trees with 13 to 23 watt CFL floods.
Trust me you do not want to use any thing that flickers them. they wills die in less than a year if not a week.
loppy
Senior Member
posted: Jan. 8, 2008 @ 6:13a
FWIW, F and CF bulbs emit some UV whereas incandescents don't. So you have to choose between mercury, flickering, poor CRI, and UV against incandescent's higher energy use. The risks are supposedly low, but they're there. GE says the UV rays are much less than the sun's, yet they turn all my white plastics into a nice yellow color.
sherrynews
Member
posted: Jan. 8, 2008 @ 6:27a
Our corporate master have dictated we move to mercury based, non-dimmable, slow-bright, environmental disaster-in-waiting CFLs (a 35 year-old technology).
Nevermind LED based lighting costs far less to make, can be configured without hazardous materials, disposed of safely, dim completely in all colors (except black), last virtually forever AND USES FAR LESS POWER! (A 20 year-old technology).
Organic LED like technologies (like your cell phone screen) -- add to paint on wall -- let your infant eat it -- dissolve to bread-crumbs -- (10 year old technology) FAR LESS POWER STILL!
What's new? ???
CFL last 5 years but they will be the greatest environmental disaster since disposable diapers (20+% of landfills on a product that did not exists 30 years ago -- undoing ALL recycling efforts of mankind -- viva pampers!) If you touch a broken bulb and the shards of sharp glass break your skin -- or your kids/animals skin -- you die from mercury poisining -- no ifs, ands or buts -- just death. Other health issues??? (I have heard -- though only rumor -- we may acutally prove -- not just believe but actually prove - in our lifetime's that smoking 50 cigartettes a day for several decades may not be beneficial to your health-- imagine that -- actual proof in our lifetimes!)
But hey -- people now make and sell LOTS AND LOTS of bulbs -- people who would gladly toxify any and everyone to maintain their near-term profit. That is their only job -- their sacred feed-my-babies mission.
Then there are those poor stakeholders who have made billions selling mercury products for years -- but those "tree-huggers" do not like how it tastes in fish. New mercury markets/applications are needed now! Those dead-enders want to go back to the horrible days when good right-thinking American's -- dare I say it -- "struggle for liquidity." How do you run the third vacation home with only four servants and no upstairs maid!
So let's skip what works best for humanity and opt for the "stability" of the "market." Besides, our master - the great powerful Wal's (WalMart and WallStreet) have issued our orders. Ours is but to comply. If we fail to follow our leaders blindly we can never hope to remain free!
sherrynews said: Our corporate master have dictated we move to mercury based, non-dimmable, slow-bright, environmental disaster-in-waiting CFLs (a 35 year-old technology).
Nevermind LED based lighting costs far less to make, can be configured without hazardous materials, disposed of safely, dim completely in all colors (except black), last virtually forever AND USES FAR LESS POWER! (A 20 year-old technology).
Organic LED like technologies (like your cell phone screen) -- add to paint on wall -- let your infant eat it -- dissolve to bread-crumbs -- (10 year old technology) FAR LESS POWER STILL!
What's new? ???
CFL last 5 years but they will be the greatest environmental disaster since disposable diapers (20+% of landfills on a product that did not exists 30 years ago -- undoing ALL recycling efforts of mankind -- viva pampers!) If you touch a broken bulb and the shards of sharp glass break your skin -- or your kids/animals skin -- you die from mercury poisining -- no ifs, ands or buts -- just death. Other health issues??? (I have heard -- though only rumor -- we may acutally prove -- not just believe but actually prove - in our lifetime's that smoking 50 cigartettes a day for several decades may not be beneficial to your health-- imagine that -- actual proof in our lifetimes!)
But hey -- people now make and sell LOTS AND LOTS of bulbs -- people who would gladly toxify any and everyone to maintain their near-term profit. That is their only job -- their sacred feed-my-babies mission.
Then there are those poor stakeholders who have made billions selling mercury products for years -- but those "tree-huggers" do not like how it tastes in fish. New mercury markets/applications are needed now! Those dead-enders want to go back to the horrible days when good right-thinking American's -- dare I say it -- "struggle for liquidity." How do you run the third vacation home with only four servants and no upstairs maid!
So let's skip what works best for humanity and opt for the "stability" of the "market." Besides, our master - the great powerful Wal's (WalMart and WallStreet) have issued our orders. Ours is but to comply. If we fail to follow our leaders blindly we can never hope to remain free!Wow. That's a lot of FUD in the morning Got links to studies in reputable journals, or are those just funded by the Wal's, and, therefore, to be disregarded as part of the propaganda machine? BTW, what works best: recycled or virgin tinfoil for your hats?
loppy said: FWIW, F and CF bulbs emit some UV whereas incandescents don't. So you have to choose between mercury, flickering, poor CRI, and UV against incandescent's higher energy use. The risks are supposedly low, but they're there. GE says the UV rays are much less than the sun's, yet they turn all my white plastics into a nice yellow color.
Agreed, I use a lot of CFLs and they have also faded some of my tabletops. If you have antique furniture or high end furniture that uses photochemically reactive stain there is enough UV coming out of some CFLs to make your table tops fade. This is one area where toning lacquer finishes such as most cheap furniture today is actually superior. It does appear in my limited testing that enclosed bulbs emit less as they see to have stopped the fading I was experiencing on some table tops. The CFLs can also cause real silk shades to crumble from what I assume is UV damage (since they shades were not bothered by the heat of incandsent lights. I for one, cannot wait until LED lights are cheaper and better.
So I would be very careful about using CFLs around antique/fine furniture or as spot lighting on prints, painting or other art work.
dealsdyker
Addicted Member
posted: Jan. 8, 2008 @ 12:33p
sherrynews said: ...If you touch a broken bulb and the shards of sharp glass break your skin -- or your kids/animals skin -- you die from mercury poisining -- no ifs, ands or buts -- just death.
The 3-pk 23W Sylvania CFL at the store here in TN rang up $8.98, which was the regular marked price. FYI, I also saw some Sylvania CFL's that said 'Instant on'.
I bought a GE dimmable CFL the other day, and it barely dims a little, before turning completly off.
Slickone said: The 3-pk 23W Sylvania CFL at the store here in TN rang up $8.98, which was the regular marked price. FYI, I also saw some Sylvania CFL's that said 'Instant on'.
I bought a GE dimmable CFL the other day, and it barely dims a little, before turning completly off.
I saw them ring up 8.98 in NJ (Princeton) as well...
nah, i dont know, a buddy just sent me the link.. they dont have good reviews or anything but they're cheap...........
DTWells
Member
posted: Jan. 17, 2008 @ 12:54p
The 98 cent lowes bulbs are soft whites
snake
Senior Member
posted: Jan. 17, 2008 @ 2:10p
I love the idea of saving energy with CFLs, but man, do they suck. Last 5 years? HA, it seems that I replace them more often than incandescents, some flicker, they take long to brighten, the color is harsh, etc.... I hope they make some progress with energy efficient bulbs soon.
snake said: I love the idea of saving energy with CFLs, but man, do they suck. Last 5 years? HA, it seems that I replace them more often than incandescents, some flicker, they take long to brighten, the color is harsh, etc.... I hope they make some progress with energy efficient bulbs soon. I suggest you don't use the cheapie off name brands like feit or HD's brand and even avoid Philips. I've used GE brand for many multiplied years and had good life from them (even when they had the circlelights you put in your lamps, but many won't even know what that is...)
Yes they take a little while to come to full brightness, but I have no issue with that as these use so little energy I don't bother to cut them off if Im going room to room anyway.
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