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valkyrie
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 14, 2008 @ 10:52p 
FranksandBeans said:2.) One huge benefit of the Latitude series is readily available accessories and the ability to use a single connection business level docking station. Most consumer models don't offer a true docking station, relying upon USB models or other limited solutions. Real docks can be had for less than $50 off eBay, and Dell also offers an expansion dock with a half height PCIe slot and an extra media bay (modular accessory like DVD burner, battery charging...) which can also be had under $50. The option to use a true, DVI equipped, single connection docking station is a big feature to consider. Most of the cheapies nowadays don't offer this. I agree with you on almost everything. Just one caveat. The D/Dock does NOT have a PCIe slot, it is a 1/2-length PCI slot. I would love a PCIe dock, but they don't yet make one. |
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zazonz
- Thrifty Member
posted: Jan. 14, 2008 @ 11:48p
Anyone know if they are using the new screens from the D630s on these new D620s. I had a D620 which I thought overall it was a very good laptop, but the screen on my D620 was very poor so I ended up returning it. I heard the screens on the new D630s are a lot better. If they're using the new screens on the D620s it makes it an excellent deal. Thanks for any help. |
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onion
- Senior Member - 10K
posted: Jan. 14, 2008 @ 11:51p
I hope you people realize that the D620 uses the old 945 chipset that maxes out at 2gb while the D630 uses the 965 "santa rosa" chipset.... |
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borisnotthespider
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 12:10a
I owned a earlier 600M & D600 and now I have a D630. Latitudes are amazing compared to inspirons. 600m is pathetic. Also, stay away from the D620, The screens are not as clear with text and display is bad in general. The biggest advantage of D series is the modularity. Modular battery, Sata drive bay & modular DVDRW can all be added on later for cheap. You can get all those on eBay for cheap. If you are buying, Get the BASIC configuration and get everything else for cheap on eBay or Newegg(memory/HD) My configuration is D630 with T7500 C2D 2.2Ghz
200GB 7200RPM SATA ($47 more after selling 80GB drive on eBay & replacing with 200GB from Bestbuy for $127)
4GB memory (costed $40 after selling the 1GB for $20 on eBay)
Bluetooth (added later for $22)
modular battery ($27 on eBay)
WSXGA (1440x900), DVDRW, Intel 3100, Wifi
9 cell battery, 90W adapter
Vista Business (came with XP pro, upgraded Vista from powertogether stuff). Basically, got all the above for $1000. If I had gotten all the hardware upgraded at Dell, would have costed twice as much.
[B} Make sure you get a good processor & graphics card. Rest all can be done later & when needed/found on eBay or fatwallet deals  |
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borisnotthespider
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 12:12a
Also, the biggest advantage of D630 is they are 64 bit ready. So you can later upgrade to 64bit OS. onion said:I hope you people realize that the D620 uses the old 945 chipset that maxes out at 2gb while the D630 uses the 965 "santa rosa" chipset.... |
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zazonz
- Thrifty Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 12:18a
The Core 2 Duos are capable of running 64 bit software as well. |
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dethfitr
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 12:24a
onion said:I hope you people realize that the D620 uses the old 945 chipset that maxes out at 2gb while the D630 uses the 965 "santa rosa" chipset....
I have a D620 and have recently bought a 4gb memory upgrade for it. It shows 3.25gb so I don't think the 2gb limit is true.
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thinvalet
- Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 12:38a
Don't forget to buy with AMEX. You'll get 4 years warranty! |
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toast0
- New Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 1:07a
Thanks OP, got my wife a D620 to go with my D520 (that I got without deal, because my old laptop croaked and nothing else at the time offered SXGA+ for a decent price). |
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valkyrie
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 2:05a
onion said:I hope you people realize that the D620 uses the old 945 chipset that maxes out at 2gb while the D630 uses the 965 "santa rosa" chipset.... That's not true. My D620 supports 4GB of memory. |
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yumworm
- Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 3:21a
i bought it with my AMEX card. But I didn't see any 4-year warranty thiny. |
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FranksandBeans
- Happy Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 7:34a
Fixed the pcie mix up. Tks. |
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meenakshikalera
- Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 9:55a
Hey... If you add more RAM later (not through Dell), does that void the 3 year warranty? If so, any ways to get around it? Never done this before, so wanted to confirm.
Thanks! |
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ksbadiru
- Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 12:07p
meenakshikalera said:Hey...
If you add more RAM later (not through Dell), does that void the 3 year warranty? If so, any ways to get around it? Never done this before, so wanted to confirm.
Thanks! Not at all. As long as your hardware problem is not RAM related. |
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AceNJ
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 12:14p
meenakshikalera said:Hey...
If you add more RAM later (not through Dell), does that void the 3 year warranty? If so, any ways to get around it? Never done this before, so wanted to confirm.
Thanks! They only warranty the orginal parts but it does not void your warranty at all. For example, if you purchase a new hard drive and it goes bad, your warranty wouldn't cover it. However you could use your orginal hard drive or just purchase another new one. Your warranty is still good for everything else. |
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AceNJ
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 12:21p
I'm thinking about going for the D820. This would be used for ocassional gaming (such as command & conquer 3 Tiberium wars), internet, and dvd movies. I know that the CPU and Video are really the main components I need to worry about and I'm OK with upgrading the memory and hard drive on my own to save $$. I would go with the 2.00ghz CPU. The only thing I would add is the fingerprint reader (just for coolnesss sake) and upgrade the battery to 9cell. Considering the CPU and Video of the D820, would it be better to wait for a good deal to come around on the D830? I'm not in any dire need but would like to get a new laptop within the next 3 months or so. Thoughts from anyone? TIA |
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thinvalet
- Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 12:28p
How often do deals like this with 3 years warranty come around? I may need a lappy 6 months from now, and made an impulse buy, but I'm wondering if I should cancel and wait until the 6 month period rolls around... |
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yuppiejr
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 12:56p
zazonz said:Anyone know if they are using the new screens from the D630s on these new D620s. I had a D620 which I thought overall it was a very good laptop, but the screen on my D620 was very poor so I ended up returning it. I heard the screens on the new D630s are a lot better. If they're using the new screens on the D620s it makes it an excellent deal. Thanks for any help. The clarity issue on the D620 displays (not sure if it impacts the other D-x20 models) is very real and I have seen at least 10 of these in our environment that are effected. The first impression I had after looking at the screen was immediate and negative and most users who've been upgraded to this model from older D600 models felt the same way. In fact of the hundreds deployed in our offices I've never seen a single D620 with an acceptable LCD panel installed. Dell will dispatch a service tech to replace the screen which, depending on what model replacement you get, may resolve the issue or may leave you with the same problem until you get a proper replacement via luck of the draw... It is simply not acceptable, in my opinion, for a company as large as Dell not to take ownership of a glaring defect like this in their "business class" product line. The fact that they still won't guarantee that a replacement panel will not have the defect when you request a service call is unbelievable. Most of the threads on the topic have gotten so long in their forums they either end up deleted or merged and re-merged in perpetuity. It's truly sad when you can buy a $500 Inspiron value laptop with a similarly sized screen and get a vastly better display than their $1200 business model. A little google homework shows this is not an isolated problem: D620 Screen Problems ... anyway, the price here is solid and the D series Latitude units are usually good laptops, however I strongly caution you against the Dx20 models due to the ongoing problem with their LCD panel quality. |
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yuppiejr
- Senior Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 1:10p
AceNJ said:I'm thinking about going for the D820. This would be used for ocassional gaming (such as command & conquer 3 Tiberium wars), internet, and dvd movies.
I know that the CPU and Video are really the main components I need to worry about and I'm OK with upgrading the memory and hard drive on my own to save $$. I would go with the 2.00ghz CPU. The only thing I would add is the fingerprint reader (just for coolnesss sake) and upgrade the battery to 9cell.
Considering the CPU and Video of the D820, would it be better to wait for a good deal to come around on the D830? I'm not in any dire need but would like to get a new laptop within the next 3 months or so.
Thoughts from anyone?
TIA I'd say the CPU and 2 gigs of RAM is fine, however the 3D card in the D820 might be a little anemic to run the game smoothly. Sounds like there are some issues in Vista with CC3 if you don't patch it appropriately but in XP you should at least be able to run the game at low resolution and have an acceptable experience playing out of the box. Specs on the 3D accelerator in the D820 which is similar to but slower than the Geforce Go 7400 series (by 10% or so): NVIDIA Quadro NVS 120M It is based on the GeForce Go 7400 with professional certified graphics drivers for applications like CAD, Rendering, 3D modelling, etc. The usability for games is limited.
Specifications * performance class: 4
* series: Quadro NVS
* codename: G72M
* pipeline: 4 pixel-pipelines and 3 vertex-pipelines
* memory: DDR-3, maximum upgrade: 256 MB, bus: 64 bit, +256 MB Turbocache (often is presented as the whole memory)
* directX: 9c, Shader Model 3.0
* features: PureVideo
* manufacturers site: product page
* application area: small and light-weight notebooks
* other infos: 90nm, 112 Mio transistors, PCI-E Benchmarks * 3DMark03: 3900 points
* 3DMark05: 1900 points
* 3DMark06: 660 points All tests are approximative benchmark values (depending on the inserted CPU) and made without Antialiasing (AA) and without Anisotrope Filter (AF). Modern games were not playable with AA and AF (<20 fps). Oblivion: 720x480, medium details: 20-90 fps -> can be played
Prey: 1024x768, medium details: 20-30 fps -> can be played
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic: 1280x800, low shadows, medium details: 30-40 fps -> can be played fully featured .. benchies of mobile 3D graphics chipsets: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html Based on the money you will end up putting into a D820 (HDD, RAM, faster processor, bigger battery etc..) you may be better off picking up one of the HP dv6780se units Best Buy has in the back page of their add this week for $999. In terms of a home/multimedia and gaming notebook I think it's going to be a better fit for you. (1.66 ghz C2D dual core, Geforce 8400 GS graphics, 3 gigs of RAM, 250 gig HDD, DVD burner, Intel 802.11n wireless, Vista Premium w/ remote control, HDMI output, firewire, 5-in1 media card reader, etc...) HP dv6780se laptop for $999 link |
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zazonz
- Thrifty Member
posted: Jan. 15, 2008 @ 2:15p
yuppiejr said:zazonz said:Anyone know if they are using the new screens from the D630s on these new D620s. I had a D620 which I thought overall it was a very good laptop, but the screen on my D620 was very poor so I ended up returning it. I heard the screens on the new D630s are a lot better. If they're using the new screens on the D620s it makes it an excellent deal. Thanks for any help.
The clarity issue on the D620 displays (not sure if it impacts the other D-x20 models) is very real and I have seen at least 10 of these in our environment that are effected. The first impression I had after looking at the screen was immediate and negative and most users who've been upgraded to this model from older D600 models felt the same way. In fact of the hundreds deployed in our offices I've never seen a single D620 with an acceptable LCD panel installed. Dell will dispatch a service tech to replace the screen which, depending on what model replacement you get, may resolve the issue or may leave you with the same problem until you get a proper replacement via luck of the draw...
It is simply not acceptable, in my opinion, for a company as large as Dell not to take ownership of a glaring defect like this in their "business class" product line. The fact that they still won't guarantee that a replacement panel will not have the defect when you request a service call is unbelievable. Most of the threads on the topic have gotten so long in their forums they either end up deleted or merged and re-merged in perpetuity. It's truly sad when you can buy a $500 Inspiron value laptop with a similarly sized screen and get a vastly better display than their $1200 business model.
A little google homework shows this is not an isolated problem: D620 Screen Problems
... anyway, the price here is solid and the D series Latitude units are usually good laptops, however I strongly caution you against the Dx20 models due to the ongoing problem with their LCD panel quality. If they're using the screens from the D630s, those are much imporved which is what I'm trying to find out. |
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