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CanDream said:So the mod for the e2xxx and the e4xxx are the same?

The new combo comes with an ECS board that supports 1333 FSB. What is the BSEL mod for 1333 FSB?

Thanks

that's right

this is the 1333 mod


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bobobobob said:CanDream said:So the mod for the e2xxx and the e4xxx are the same?

The new combo comes with an ECS board that supports 1333 FSB. What is the BSEL mod for 1333 FSB?

Thanks


that's right

this is the 1333 mod


Holy cow! I did the E4300 mod, and I can't imagine trying to get TWO lines on that little side area of the chip to do this mod! I know it only takes a tiny line but there is so little room there to begin with. Out of safety to the chip itself I would consider just doing the 1066 mod and leave it at that.


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A question for those of you more knowledgable than me, Frys has 3 fairly cheap combos this weekend thru Tuesday,

1. ECS 945GCT-M/1333 MOBO with E2200 for $78.99 (#5495339)
2. ECS 945GCT-M/1333 MOBO with E2180 for $78.99 (#5495329)
3. ECS GEFORCE7050SM-M MOBO with 45W AMD X2 BE2300 for $68.99 (#5478899)

My question is, which one if any, would make a better HTPC starter system. I've got a PCI-E video
card with digital output, and am planning on getting a Blu-Ray/HD-DVD reader. Building the system and doing an OC mod is not a problem for me, I just don't want to waste money on something that
may not be up to the task.
TIA


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bobobobob said:CanDream said:So the mod for the e2xxx and the e4xxx are the same?

The new combo comes with an ECS board that supports 1333 FSB. What is the BSEL mod for 1333 FSB?

Thanks


that's right

this is the 1333 mod
I take it though that the E2200 won't be able to reach 3.6 (1.1x333) with this board, while the E2180 would be able to reach 3.0. So the E2180 is a better choice?


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bobobobob said:CanDream said:So the mod for the e2xxx and the e4xxx are the same?

The new combo comes with an ECS board that supports 1333 FSB. What is the BSEL mod for 1333 FSB?

Thanks


that's right

this is the 1333 mod

so e2200/ecs m/b @ 1333 makes roughly 3.6ghz without any other settings? how are temps at that speed, and memory need any changes? will board let you lower multi?


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Sure is a lot of wishful thinking here. Does the newer V3.0 board have voltage adjustments cause I tried a 2180 on V 1.0 and it wouldn't boot at 2.66. Put it on an Abit IP35-E and could only get it up to 3.0 @ 1.46V. Didn't bother trying for 3.1 and got it set at a cozy 2.8 @ 1.38V now. Might want to keep in mind that every chip is not created equal.


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I did the 1066FSB BSEL mod to the e2200, the ECS board can boot up, but during the windows installation, it crash and reboots... then now I have to run it at stock 2.2GHz.

BTW, I did the 1333 mod to a Q6600, now it is running rock solid 24/7 on all 4 cores at stock voltage and stock fan. so my mod should be fine.


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ZzZzs said:Sure is a lot of wishful thinking here. Does the newer V3.0 board have voltage adjustments cause I tried a 2180 on V 1.0 and it wouldn't boot at 2.66. Put it on an Abit IP35-E and could only get it up to 3.0 @ 1.46V. Didn't bother trying for 3.1 and got it set at a cozy 2.8 @ 1.38V now. Might want to keep in mind that every chip is not created equal.

Yes, very true zzzz, I highly doubt the 1333 mod will work, let alone the 1066, however I did have good experience with e4300, bsel mod, and crap ecs board a while ago.(1066) Just had no other adjustments so I got another board. If someone has been lucky with e2200 bsel mod (at least 1066) please elaborate!
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I basically failed on e2200, can not load OS with the 1066FSB.


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taoljn said:I basically failed on e2200, can not load OS with the 1066FSB.

I'm a bit surprised since the M0 stepping E2xxx cores generally are stable at 3.0GHz with stock voltage and cooling.

There is even a chance of running it at 11x333 if you do the volt mod.


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BlameItOnMe said:...which one if any, would make a better HTPC starter system.

Personally, I wouldn't choose any of them due to the limited features on each motherboard.

Lack of optical/coaxial audio out to a surround sound system and only two PCI slots really limits your HTPC options.

That said, you still might be able to make it work if your HTPC needs can be met by discrete analog audio out and 2 PCI slots / 1 PCI Express 1x slot.

If you're ok with the limitations, I'd go with the e2200 bundle. You probably won't be able to overclock either of those boards much, if at all, so get the fastest processor available. I believe the motherboard in the e2200 bundle only supports DDR2-667, but raw processor speed is probably the most important factor in HTPC use, followed closely by hard drive speed and capacity.

FYI - If you're going HD, make sure you've done your homework on the video card. Hi-Def codec decoding support has long been promised on the Nvidia side but has only been implemented in recent boards. I don't know much about the AMD/ATI camp's offerings but my past feeling has been that their support for next-gen formats was a bit better.

I was thinking about getting the e2200 bundle myself and adding a better motherboard to replace my current HTPC, but I think I'm probably going to swing by Fry's and pick up the BE-2300 bundle instead... it sounds perfect for a Windows Home Server box.


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I did a 1066 mod on the E2200 and it is very stable. Ortho stable for 8 hours at 2.93 GHz. The default voltage on this ECS mobo is 1.18V, lower than the stock vcore of 1.225V. So this really requires some luck after all. It should be a lot easier to mod a 2180.

Before starting the mod, I test the cpu on a biostar 965pt board with 266x11 and found it to be a good overclocker. The mod process was actually though annoying as the first try failed.


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I'm thinking of upgrading the MAME setup I have. Can anyone tell me if this combo deal would be good for that? I've got an athlon XP 2600+ running XP and it's bogging down on some of the games.

TIA
Dave


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JamesInLV said:Holy cow! I did the E4300 mod, and I can't imagine trying to get TWO lines on that little side area of the chip to do this mod! I know it only takes a tiny line but there is so little room there to begin with. Out of safety to the chip itself I would consider just doing the 1066 mod and leave it at that.
one idea is one line on the proc, and the other on the motherboard.
littlegreenman said:I take it though that the E2200 won't be able to reach 3.6 (1.1x333) with this board, while the E2180 would be able to reach 3.0. So the E2180 is a better choice?
with 266 or 333 mod
2180: 2.66, or 3.33
2200: 2.926, or 3.663Ghz

i guess it's possible then that the 2180 might not reach 3330 ghz (w/o a volt mod)? (and the mod is tougher...)
BlameItOnMe said:A question for those of you more knowledgable than me, Frys has 3 fairly cheap combos this weekend thru Tuesday,
1. ECS 945GCT-M/1333 MOBO with E2200 for $78.99 (#5495339)
2. ECS 945GCT-M/1333 MOBO with E2180 for $78.99 (#5495329)
3. ECS GEFORCE7050SM-M MOBO with 45W AMD X2 BE2300 for $68.99 (#5478899)

Probably I would pick #1 also, What kind of pci-e do you have?
dorifuto240 said:so e2200/ecs m/b @ 1333 makes roughly 3.6ghz without any other settings? how are temps at that speed, and memory need any changes? will board let you lower multi?
many chips as many have pointed out can't reach this high speed stably even with a volt-mod--but if not a good air cooler should suffice. btw, this board doesn't let you do anything--the memory is to be kept at ddr2-667
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I was also under the impression that 1066 would almost always work (they are both a different M0 stepping however) ..for the mod, in addition to a blade, the defogger kit, rmclock i used isopropyl alc, electric tape, and a multimeter.
Probedude said:I'm thinking of upgrading the MAME setup I have. Can anyone tell me if this combo deal would be good for that? I've got an athlon XP 2600+ running XP and it's bogging down on some of the games.

TIA
Dave

this combo should be a good 5xspeed increase overall, though u'll likely need new ddr2 ram (it has low-end embedded gfx intel gma 950) if you have an AGP card right now, you might want a new pci-e card rather than the embedded gfx, but for MAME it'll probably do. Fry's so can always return everything without problems before 15 (or 30 i'm not sure) days


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bobobobob said:janetyan said:2 questions:

1. Is the CPU retail version with Fan or just bare CPU?
2. Will this combo work with "OCZ 2GB (2X1GB) 800MHz PC2-6400 DDR2 Memory - $49.99 - $25 MIR = $24.99"?

thanks a lot


yes to both

gpsgps said:ForSpud said:did the bsel pad mod on my E2200, boots fine but I haven't had time to load Windows yet. BIOS shows the common error message bout the chip not running at 200mhz, but then boots on just fine...so I assume it is now 11x266. Will load Winders when I get a chance, should be fine. Using the stock ECS mobo that came with it. Once I get time to put on Winders should see that this dude is running at 2.9+Ghz without any mobo problems or changes.

thanks giving us a clue to find out how to OC it, but if you have a link on the basic info of bsel pad mod,that would be nicer.


I also did the 1066 bsel mod on this chip (motherboard I had didn't allow for the 1333 mod), follow the image in the op's post on this thread--I used a window defogger repair kit and a blade to scrape away the excess (ended up looking like this [credit doh0000 on OCF]). Also RMClock (available here) is a nice tool for a follow-up check.


I have to repeat what JAMESINLV said: holy cow! !!

the last time when I did OC is OC a 366 to 500, now OC getting to be this physically?! no wonder I googled and nothing I can understand. I'd better stay this way,rpped! thanks for sharing. hopefully there's some easy wan to OC this baby to 2.9G ....


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most overclockers are on sites ocforums and xtremesystems imo,

ya it is a lot easier if the motherboard allows changing the fsb and voltage and so wouldn't usually do the physical mods, but not with these frys combos, but they are sweet


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any nice pci-e gfx deals?


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Well. What do you consider nice? If you aren't going to game at serious resolutions, the x1650 for $29 ain't bad.


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that's frys b&M?


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