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I know HD-DVD is dead and I even cracked a joke about the CC post a couple of days ago. But my only mission with this post is to let those people know who may be interested that there is a good deal out there. So be please be kind. So if anyone is interested in an HD-DVD with upconverting to near HD with 7 free movies (5 by mail) then this beats the CC deal provided you have a Costco membership.

Good Luck!!!



It is $139.99 on costco website. Where did you get the price?


Thanks for the info and glad to see you posted the caveat about HD-DVD being all but dead. I just read more articles about the rest of the backers getting ready to pull the plug so it really appears it will be the next BetaMax for those old enough to remember that.


It was $129.99 at Sunnyvale, CA Costco.


Not knocking anyone, but before you go for this you might want to check out some of the threads on "Toshiba rebate".

Speaking for myself I sent mine in October and have yet to receive them.


I just picked one up in Auburn Hills, Michigan at the $79.99. Although, it was the HD-D3 with the free HDMI cable. The format may be dead, but the upconversion and free movies make a worthwhile venture.


I will buy one as a high quality upconverter and get 7 free HDDVDs. Isn't it a good deal?


I was at Costco last night and the price was $129.


anybody in san diego costco can confirm this? i was @ the one on Morena last weekend only saw the Panny Blu-ray.

$80 for an upconverting dvd.. i am all for that.. my progressive dvd playa is about to kick the bucket..


I just picked two HD-D3's up here in Portland, OR for $79.99 each. Now I have one of these on each of my LCD TV's. Great deal even if you do not plan to own HD-DVD's, and it comes with a free HDMI cable.

The HD-A3 and the HD-D3 are the same model, the D3 is just a version with HDMI cable in box, along with 300 and the Borne Identity. Also it still qualifies for the 5 free HD-DVD's via mail-in rebate.

The A3 and the D3 do not support the Divx codec, but we can always hope hackers are working on modding the firmware to support it.


Maximuh said: I just picked two up here in Portland, OR for $79.99 each. Now I have one of these on each of my LCD TV's. Great deal even if you do not plan to own HD-DVD's, and it comes with a free HDMI cable.

that sounds like a different model then, since the a3 i picked up did not have hdmi cable. is it hd-a3 or this hd-d3 as someone else mentioned above?


Just an FYI. I've been waiting since 11/02/2007 for my 5 freebies. I'm pretty anal about filling out the paperwork correctly.

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Luckily I only paid $95 for my (now all be defunct) HDDVD player. And only bought 1 movie. But at $95, I got a good upconvert player I guess.

This was a friday-stand-in-line-they-only-got-25-units sale at WalMart back in November. Gleefully, I never felt compelled to pay $200 - $500 for a hddvd player.

But man, I've taken it on the chin at work...for my betamax choice.

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Does this play DivX? Might consider this instead of the Philips 5982


granadaCoder said: Just an FYI. I've been waiting since 11/02/2007 for my 5 freebies. I'm pretty anal about filling out the paperwork correctly.

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Luckily I only paid $95 for my (now all be defunct) HDDVD player. And only bought 1 movie. But at $95, I got a good upconvert player I guess.

This was a friday-stand-in-line-they-only-got-25-units sale at WalMart back in November. Gleefully, I never felt compelled to pay $200 - $500 for a hddvd player.

But man, I've taken it on the chin at work...for my betamax choice.

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well the nice thing about hddvd might be the secondary market where it's possible you can score a veritable collection of HDDVDs cheap on eBay. It's kinda like buying a dreamcast or a jaguar back in the day,


Good point.

lzpoof said: granadaCoder said: Just an FYI. I've been waiting since 11/02/2007 for my 5 freebies. I'm pretty anal about filling out the paperwork correctly.

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Luckily I only paid $95 for my (now all be defunct) HDDVD player. And only bought 1 movie. But at $95, I got a good upconvert player I guess.

This was a friday-stand-in-line-they-only-got-25-units sale at WalMart back in November. Gleefully, I never felt compelled to pay $200 - $500 for a hddvd player.

But man, I've taken it on the chin at work...for my betamax choice.

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well the nice thing about hddvd might be the secondary market where it's possible you can score a veritable collection of HDDVDs cheap on eBay. It's kinda like buying a dreamcast or a jaguar back in the day,


JHJ said:

a little sensitive, aren't we?

A few of us are just tired of anytime there is a HD thread, BR kiddies have to come over and fill up every thread, its been going on for months. I would hope HD people were not doing the same in regards to problems with BR.

Yes, we know HD is ending, but to hear the continual postings of the Blu-Tards that invade every HD thread, you would think this is just going to stop working one day, or will not play DVDs, or will just be a doorstop. Some of us are happy with the A3 we have, and while we are disappointed how this turned out, still have no regrets buying it, and no desire to go buy a BR either.

Frankly, this was a couple of days away from BR being on the losing end. It didnt have to do with being better, just Sony had a lot more to lose and absolutely had to make sure BR did not lose, because that would not bode well for the PS3 either. So they doubled Toshibas ante, got Warner Bros, and well the rest is history.

But I really cant understand having some kind of emotional attachment to a company or data format. I know probably most of the BR owners probably actually do have a life and do not do this, but for some, they remind me of the worst of the Ron Paul fanatics. They both show up where not wanted, say things that are not entirely true, and insult you if you dont adopt their views.


Well said, philmont. Thank you.


chronotrigger said: Maximuh said: I just picked two up here in Portland, OR for $79.99 each. Now I have one of these on each of my LCD TV's. Great deal even if you do not plan to own HD-DVD's, and it comes with a free HDMI cable.

that sounds like a different model then, since the a3 i picked up did not have hdmi cable. is it hd-a3 or this hd-d3 as someone else mentioned above?

My local B&M Costco has the D3 for $129 when I was there 2 days ago. There were quite many left. Maybe the price on these will drop soon.


How can it be a good deal if it basically is a hundred dollar device that won't play movies that come out in the future?


HD-DVD FTW!!!

Death to blu gay


philmont said: JHJ said:

a little sensitive, aren't we?


A few of us are just tired of anytime there is a HD thread, BR kiddies have to come over and fill up every thread, its been going on for months. I would hope HD people were not doing the same in regards to problems with BR.

Yes, we know HD is ending, but to hear the continual postings of the Blu-Tards that invade every HD thread, you would think this is just going to stop working one day, or will not play DVDs, or will just be a doorstop. Some of us are happy with the A3 we have, and while we are disappointed how this turned out, still have no regrets buying it, and no desire to go buy a BR either.

Frankly, this was a couple of days away from BR being on the losing end. It didnt have to do with being better, just Sony had a lot more to lose and absolutely had to make sure BR did not lose, because that would not bode well for the PS3 either. So they doubled Toshibas ante, got Warner Bros, and well the rest is history.

But I really cant understand having some kind of emotional attachment to a company or data format. I know probably most of the BR owners probably actually do have a life and do not do this, but for some, they remind me of the worst of the Ron Paul fanatics. They both show up where not wanted, say things that are not entirely true, and insult you if you dont adopt their views.

All that is fine, and I'm certainly not a partisan (I won't be buying any optical format, I don't expect to ever own another optical video player). But the fact is, you might not regret buying it and it might serve you fine, but for someone buying a new player today, it makes no sense to buy into a format that will not exist in the future. Any more than you would go out and buy a betamax just for the great library of titles you could get on it for a couple years in the 80s.


Thats still a faulty comparison with Betamax, because either this would have to ONLY play HD DVD for this comparison to be true. It still plays standard DVDs, and comes with some HDs too. Its not like there are only two formats, HD and BR, there is still standard, which this plays, which still makes up the vast majority of disc sales, with no end in sight.

So its really rather fallacious to bring up Betamax. If someone posted a thread for an upconverting DVD player with no movies and no HD ability, would you tell them that is dead technology too and a bad deal too?


cameronj said: How can it be a good deal if it basically is a hundred dollar device that won't play movies that come out in the future?

Because it will always function as a high quality upscaling DVD player, as well as be able to play a huge library of already released HD-DVDs that are sure to be available at big discounts.

Considering that a good quality upscaling DVD player is around this price range, this is a steal when you consider you are getting 7 free movies with it.


cameronj said: How can it be a good deal if it basically is a hundred dollar device that won't play movies that come out in the future?

As long as they keep making regular DVD's, it'll play movies that come out in the future.

Can't you people understand we're not buying it because it plays HD-DVD's, we're playing it because it's the best upconverting DVD player out there for the money. That's like saying "how can there be a good deal on a regular DVD player when there's BR players out there?" The rest of us will buy BR players in the future when they're more affordable and a more mature technology.


I believe I've just come up with the way to end the Sony fanboiz fervor once and for all...

Why are people still buying PS2s?

End of story. BDiots go home!


That's just not a fair statement. For $100 you get a great upconverting dvd player with the latest upconverting technology that can play any standard definition DVDs that come out in the future. And it comes with the added bonus of some free movies and the ability to play any HD DVD's that have been published or may be published, and those HD DVD's will be available at DVD prices.

This isn't Betamax vs. VHS situation since the Toshiba player can play both standard DVD's and HD-DVD's. The format war between HDDVD and blue-ray may be over, but there are other formats coming. .

Eventually Blue-ray disks will find their way into the garbage bin along with DVDs, HD-DVDs, Mini-discs, Betamax, floppies, Vhs, 8track, LP, etc. . . Personally, I'll feel better chunking my HD-DVD's and remembering that I got them at 50% off!


philmont said: JHJ said:

a little sensitive, aren't we?


A few of us are just tired of anytime there is a HD thread, BR kiddies have to come over and fill up every thread, its been going on for months.

Agreed. While never a fanboy, I have been very vocal since before the PS3 even launched that people needed to realize that because the PS3 was going to ship with a blu-ray player, that it would simply be impossible for HD-DVD to win the format war. I did this because it was a fairly large investment, so I absolutely wanted people to know what they were getting into.

It honestly had nothing to do with which was the superior format, because in my opinion HD-DVD probably would have won if the playing field was level, it had everything to do with the fact that the sheer size of the installed userbase of blu-ray from the PS3 made the outcome inevitable.

My whole point was to give people fair warning. But now that the format war is over, there are great values to be had with HD-DVD, and as long as people know going in what they are getting, there is absolutely no reason not to jump all over the deals that will be popping up. Even though I have both HD-DVD and blu-ray, I expect that I will be buying many more titles in HD-DVD at least in the near future since the prices will most likely be substantially cheaper.


aussie2u said: Thanks for the info and glad to see you posted the caveat about HD-DVD being all but dead. I just read more articles about the rest of the backers getting ready to pull the plug so it really appears it will be the next BetaMax for those old enough to remember that.

I am sick of the BetaMax references. It was funny the first 10,000,000,000 times but it is getting a little old now.

Also note that the comparison isnt entirely accurate. BetaMax was actually somewhat successful before it expired. HD-DVD never got to that point.


cameronj said:
All that is fine, and I'm certainly not a partisan (I won't be buying any optical format, I don't expect to ever own another optical video player). But the fact is, you might not regret buying it and it might serve you fine, but for someone buying a new player today, it makes no sense to buy into a format that will not exist in the future. Any more than you would go out and buy a betamax just for the great library of titles you could get on it for a couple years in the 80s.

So are you suggesting that nobody buy regular dvd's and regular dvd players anymore?


"Eventually Blue-ray disks will find their way into the garbage bin along with DVDs, HD-DVDs, Mini-discs, Betamax, floppies, Vhs, 8track, LP, etc. . . Personally, I'll feel better chunking my HD-DVD's and remembering that I got them at 50% off!"

I'm not chucking my LP's or R to R Tapes. They may be in my casket with me though. My HD player will probably stay as long as it plays my bargain HD's and upconverts then it becomes parts for play.


Confirmed in Dedham, MA costco. Multiple units left. They also had the Toshiba DKR10 which although will not play HDDVD, it is a DVD recorder and upscales to 1080P. Honestly though, the seven hddvds make the d3 the better deal IMHO. I took a photo of the store tag which lists the price change as being today. For those that still see a tag at 129.99, you may want to bring a unit to a scanner to be sure they just haven't changed the tags yet. Thanks for the post op.


philmont said: Thats still a faulty comparison with Betamax, because either this would have to ONLY play HD DVD for this comparison to be true. It still plays standard DVDs, and comes with some HDs too. Its not like there are only two formats, HD and BR, there is still standard, which this plays, which still makes up the vast majority of disc sales, with no end in sight.

So its really rather fallacious to bring up Betamax. If someone posted a thread for an upconverting DVD player with no movies and no HD ability, would you tell them that is dead technology too and a bad deal too?

Good point - so is a good quality upconverting DVD player and 5 movies a good deal at $80 with rebates?

I just get the feeling that this deal is being defended by people because they like HD DVD, not because it's a good deal on its merits.


riznick said: cameronj said:
All that is fine, and I'm certainly not a partisan (I won't be buying any optical format, I don't expect to ever own another optical video player). But the fact is, you might not regret buying it and it might serve you fine, but for someone buying a new player today, it makes no sense to buy into a format that will not exist in the future. Any more than you would go out and buy a betamax just for the great library of titles you could get on it for a couple years in the 80s.


So are you suggesting that nobody buy regular dvd's and regular dvd players anymore?

Of course not. But would you pay this price for an upconverting DVD player and 5 movies? You might, I don't know. That might be a good deal. Not to mention the fact that if you DO want to play Blu Ray movies, you will need a second device in your entertainment center anyway.

I come to this thread with no history in the debate, and I don't care which one wins/won. I never plan to buy either HD player anyway. It seems like the only partisans on this thread are pro HD DVD, and anyone questioning whether you should buy into a dead end technology is being attacked regardless of motive.


Thanks OP, green! Based on your post, I stopped by my local Costo (NNJ) looking for this. sure enough it was $79.99. Picked one up. Little disappointed it didn't come with 300 (2 Bourne movies instead). Might pick up another one for the bedroom, but I'll wait 2 weeks to see if it drops further. Hope they don't get cleaned out, or they all get shipped back to Toshiba, by then.

Based on some reports, Toshiba is planning to pull the units from store shelves next month. What does that mean exactly? Does that mean Toshiba is buying all units back from all retailers?

reever9 said: I know HD-DVD is dead and I even cracked a joke about the CC post a couple of days ago. But my only mission with this post is to let those people know who may be interested that there is a good deal out there. So be please be kind. So if anyone is interested in an HD-DVD with upconverting to near HD with 7 free movies (5 by mail) then this beats the CC deal provided you have a Costco membership.

Good Luck!!!


Bibba said: Confirmed in Dedham, MA costco. Multiple units left. They also had the Toshiba DKR10 which although will not play HDDVD, it is a DVD recorder and upscales to 1080P. Honestly though, the seven hddvds make the d3 the better deal IMHO. I took a photo of the store tag which lists the price change as being today. For those that still see a tag at 129.99, you may want to bring a unit to a scanner to be sure they just haven't changed the tags yet. Thanks for the post op.

Honestly as posted in other threads the Toshiba DKR10 is a FAR superior choice over the D3. BOTH have HDMI and the EXACT same Toshiba 1080P upconverting circuitry so the upconverting quality between the two is 100% identical. However unlike the D3 or A3 HD-DVD players the DKR10 can also record standard DVD recordable media AND it plays Divx media. IMO those are far more useful features vs buying a D3 or A3 supporting a dead HD standard.


cameronj said: philmont said: Thats still a faulty comparison with Betamax, because either this would have to ONLY play HD DVD for this comparison to be true. It still plays standard DVDs, and comes with some HDs too. Its not like there are only two formats, HD and BR, there is still standard, which this plays, which still makes up the vast majority of disc sales, with no end in sight.

So its really rather fallacious to bring up Betamax. If someone posted a thread for an upconverting DVD player with no movies and no HD ability, would you tell them that is dead technology too and a bad deal too?


Good point - so is a good quality upconverting DVD player and 5 movies a good deal at $80 with rebates?

I just get the feeling that this deal is being defended by people because they like HD DVD, not because it's a good deal on its merits.

Look at my post history, As I mentioned above - I have never defended HD-DVD as a format. This player comes with 7 HD movies, not 5. If the 7 movies were movies that you were going to buy anyway, it's hard to argue that $80 isn't a good price for just the movies.


Picked up A3 from CC during lunch hour, the UPC was ripped off from the box, and the 5 DVD rebate was already mailed.
Second one for bedroom sounds good to me, but will my wife agree with me? hm...


cameronj said: philmont said: Thats still a faulty comparison with Betamax, because either this would have to ONLY play HD DVD for this comparison to be true. It still plays standard DVDs, and comes with some HDs too. Its not like there are only two formats, HD and BR, there is still standard, which this plays, which still makes up the vast majority of disc sales, with no end in sight.

So its really rather fallacious to bring up Betamax. If someone posted a thread for an upconverting DVD player with no movies and no HD ability, would you tell them that is dead technology too and a bad deal too?


Good point - so is a good quality upconverting DVD player and 5 movies a good deal at $80 with rebates?

I just get the feeling that this deal is being defended by people because they like HD DVD, not because it's a good deal on its merits.

See, thing is, an equivalent quality up-converting DVD player costs over $100 itself. Sure, there's tons of up-conversion DVD players for less than $100, but you gotta realize this was originally an expensive player w/ high quality build that was made to sell people on HD-DVD. No one's trying to sell anyone on DVD at this point. It's a very good player on it's own merit and basically is the equivalent of someone posting an OPPO up-converting DVD player w/ 2 DVD's in box and 5 by mail for $80 OTD. If you saw that deal, you'd probably be flying out of your front door now pushing people aside to get one. This deal is being attacked because it's an HD-DVD player, not defended because of that fact. This player is very near the quality of an OPPO...


cameronj said: riznick said: cameronj said:
All that is fine, and I'm certainly not a partisan (I won't be buying any optical format, I don't expect to ever own another optical video player). But the fact is, you might not regret buying it and it might serve you fine, but for someone buying a new player today, it makes no sense to buy into a format that will not exist in the future. Any more than you would go out and buy a betamax just for the great library of titles you could get on it for a couple years in the 80s.


So are you suggesting that nobody buy regular dvd's and regular dvd players anymore?


Of course not. But would you pay this price for an upconverting DVD player and 5 movies? You might, I don't know. That might be a good deal. Not to mention the fact that if you DO want to play Blu Ray movies, you will need a second device in your entertainment center anyway.

I come to this thread with no history in the debate, and I don't care which one wins/won. I never plan to buy either HD player anyway. It seems like the only partisans on this thread are pro HD DVD, and anyone questioning whether you should buy into a dead end technology is being attacked regardless of motive.

Every movie player you buy is "dead end technology". Your dvd or blue ray player isnt going to tech upgrade itself sitting by your tv.

Every format (see cds versus mp3) changes about every 7-10 years for the better. In 10 years blue ray will be old technology. So the blue ray backers are basically arguing that paying $200+ more for BR is a wise decision because it will last 5 extra years in the marketplace before being replaced? No thanx.


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I received my 5 free hd dvds today, but they duplicated BOURNE IDENTITY which was included in the box. Anybody want a swap, send me a private message.




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