SIGG Water Bottles - 30% off at www.mysigg.com (ATTN: Nalgene Users)

30% discount code - they'll still run $14-$16 plus shipping ($5-$7), but if you're ordering 2-3 bottles it's decent.

site: www.mysigg.com
code: VIP302008

For Nalgene toters out there:

There has been some research that the lexan plastic used in Nalgene bottles could leak Bisphenol A when heated:

National Institute of Health Article (quite wordy)
Easier to read article
Canadian REI equivalent pulls Nalgene-type bottles

Many of my friends have started to use SIGG bottles. These are made in Switzerland out of aluminum, and undergo excessive destructive testing (check this out), and exceed FDA requirements on preventing harmful chemicals from getting through and have been thoroughly tested to ensure 0.0% leaching. They are also recyclable and come in a variety of colors/graphics/styles.

Beware the mysterious Sigg bottle liner.

ribex said: ashok37 said: ...
There has been some research that the lexan plastic used in Nalgene bottles could leak Bisphenol A when heated:



Whether this is even biologically significant or not, the word is LEACH, not leak!ohh, picky picky

but you can't put them in the microwave... I'll take my chances with the leeches. (Some people still think leeches can be used medicinally.)

laurenduvall said: but you can't put them in the microwave... I'll take my chances with the leeches. (Some people still think leeches can be used medicinally.)

not think but actually used in a controlled medical facility. WIKI

dpid said: laurenduvall said: but you can't put them in the microwave... I'll take my chances with the leeches. (Some people still think leeches can be used medicinally.)

not think but actually used in a controlled medical facility. WIKI

How Splendid! Good to see that the little guys are being appreciated. Sweet little slimy things. its a shame people hate them in water bottles.

ribex said: ashok37 said: ...
There has been some research that the lexan plastic used in Nalgene bottles could leak Bisphenol A when heated:



Whether this is even biologically significant or not, the word is LEACH, not leak!

Sorry - was on a conference call and got distracted. You are correct, of course.

In terms of the difference between this and a thermos...I don't know. Lighter? Looks cooler? I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do...just putting research out there, and letting people decide for themselves (with a discount!).

Happy trails!

Bah.

The shit we get for living in 2008. Cancer this, cancer that, bad for you this, bad for you that. My grandpa grew up playing with mercury with his friends, probably slept in a room that was painted with lead paint and had asbestos for insulation, and certainly didn't give a crap about bullshitpenol whatever, and he lived to be 86.

I think we all need to take our tinfoil hats off.

dpid said: Can't you just use a thermos (the original brand, not cheap knockoffs)?

Not saying about the price and if this is a deal or not, but what does SIGG really offer that's different from others?

I think the main difference is in the food-grade coating on the inside of the bottle. If you open up a SIGG and compare it to a Thermos or a Klean Kanteen, you'll notice that the inside of a SIGG is brown. The point of this coating is so that the water doesn't take up a metallic taste (if you're putting in coffee or soup or something, you won't notice this taste anyway).

I work in the coatings metrology industry right now, and as far as I can tell, the coatings used are similar to that of soda cans and canned foods (yes, there are coatings in there), and even metal toothpaste tubes (like Tom's of Maine).

I love my SIGG; you can keep water in it longer without it getting a nasty plastic taste.

Xzibit said: Bah.

The shit we get for living in 2008. Cancer this, cancer that, bad for you this, bad for you that. My grandpa grew up playing with mercury with his friends, probably slept in a room that was painted with lead paint and had asbestos for insulation, and certainly didn't give a crap about bullshitpenol whatever, and he lived to be 86.

I think we all need to take our tinfoil hats off.
That' fine, and if you worry yourself sick that's what you end up with. At the same time we're now exposed to a whole bunch new stuff that the human body never had to deal with yet. Environmentally induced diseases like allergies, asthma are on a sharp rise, so there is reason enough to be cautious. You'll probably grow at least as old as your grandpa (statistically) but the big question is in what shape will you be in during the last rounds?

Holger

herbamatic said: aluminum, yum, isn't there research that indicates aluminum causes alzheimers? and what is that weird liner anyhow? Lexan-B?

The research showed the presence of aluminum salts with alzheimers but they did not go as far as to say there was a causal relationship.
Anyway, the Sigg's are lined with a non-reactive coating, so you won't get any leaching. I own 4 1L bottles and they
are great. I just wish they had been on sale BEFORE now!

Xzibit said: Bah.

The shit we get for living in 2008. Cancer this, cancer that, bad for you this, bad for you that. My grandpa grew up playing with mercury with his friends, probably slept in a room that was painted with lead paint and had asbestos for insulation, and certainly didn't give a crap about bullshitpenol whatever, and he lived to be 86.

I think we all need to take our tinfoil hats off.

I hate to be a jerk, but I really find these anecdotal stories to be pointless and misleading. It's as if I said, "Well, I my grandpa smoked 2 packs/day and lived until he was 121, so cigarettes must not be that bad." Some humans win the noble prize. Others can bat .300. Others reach their peak height at 4 foot.

The question isn't if your grandpa was Superman. The key is if the majority of people, in a scientific study, showed negative effects in response to a chemical. In this case, the answer from the NIH was yes. Now I know that we all encounter a bunch of other random chemicals everyday, but I'm not consciously licking the doorknob of my flu-ridden colleague nor obsessed with buying organic bananas. If you bring it my attention that cigarettes cause cancer, I may/may not choose to stop. But it's good to put information out there that appeals to the mass population, and let people make decisions based on that general information (and not my grandpa, super as he may have been).

Trying to keep perspective....

yes, there was a story linking aluminum and alzheimer's disease. the popular (and more commonly accepted scienctific) thinking now is that aluminum is absorbed extremely poorly via the digestive system, thus making it HIGHLY unlikely that aluminum drinking containers are related to alzherimer's. the patients where aluminum and alzheimer's was linked was due to use of aluminum in dialysis machines (now they don't use aluminum in machines). it is now believed that aluminum pumped directly into the blood stream does do bad things, including leading to alzheimer's disease. hope this clears up some issues.

that said, i'm in for 2x 1L bottle and 1x 1.5L bottle.

legirons said: I just got a freebie advertiser Sigg bottle, plastic with a metal cup. I don't see the big deal about them
Are you sure it's plastic? Some of them have a plastic coating but are still aluminum inside, which is where I want it. Well, maybe the freebies are plastic.

Xzibit said: Bah.

The shit we get for living in 2008. Cancer this, cancer that, bad for you this, bad for you that. My grandpa grew up playing with mercury with his friends, probably slept in a room that was painted with lead paint and had asbestos for insulation, and certainly didn't give a crap about bullshitpenol whatever, and he lived to be 86.

I think we all need to take our tinfoil hats off.

Your grandfather also probably played sports outside when he was a child, probably worked a job for four decades that involved heavy physical activity, drank water that wasn't nearly as polluted and ate fish that wasn't loaded with methylmercury, meat that wasn't laced with hormones and antibiotics, and ate foods that looked nothing like the Frankenstein frozen foods section of your local supermarket today.

Your grandfather lived in a time when pneumonia, polio, or tuberculosis was more likely to kill you than diabetes, heart disease, or cancer. Times are a-changin'.

In other news, I've been looking for one of these...thanks.

RXC96 said: can you put these in the freezer, or will the water expand and bend the aluminum bottle?

a co-worker saw me putting plastic bottles in the work freezer and said I shouldn't do it because the plastic leaks or is it leaches chemicals into the ice/water?

SIGG does not recommend placing them in the freezer.

I've been needing a couple of bottles, so I went to my local REI to check these out.
I opened up a few of them on the shelf and they *stank* like drying paint and petroleum. Inert... yeah sure. No leaching 100% safe mystery liner.

Ended up buying a stainless one that was stink-free.

Right on! I picked up 2 bottles and a beautiful flask/cup kit. Thanks!

Some design/color have super saver/prime, i.e. shipped by Amazon.
Most of the Sigg bottles on Amazon are sold by 3rd party, however.

olouie said: PeteyNice said: I am not sure how much of a deal this is. Amazon has these for similar prices or less and many of them are Prime/Free Super Saver shipping. Good if you want a different cap or style than Amazon provides I suppose.

dont see any on Amazon with prime

thanks, I bought four Siggs for my family last year and needed to replace some tops, also I hear the new thermos are supposed to be good; I'm hoping "leakproof" means that, really!
Blessings and thanks!

OK the ATTN Naglene got my attention, so I'm looking through trying to figure out if I really need to throw out my 20 year old Nalgene bottle, I love it and use it on every Bike trip, It wasn't until I went to the easy to read article that I discovered they make drinking bottles, I'll never give up my 500ml plastic gas bottle, hate aluminum in my bike bottle racks...

LOL - Got me! I'll read the title a little closer next time!