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Watch your TV or one AV device from your computer over the LAN or internet.

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smiledrs said:Onion is right on this one. The first gen Sling only does 320x240 native resolution which is a small size on your screen. If you increase the size, the picture becomes pixelated and difficult to watch remotely. On the LAN it's ok, but high moving sports like Basketball is hard to see once the image is blown up and you are streaming from a remote location. Cell phones it's fine because most only do 320x240 max. The 2nd or newer does 640x480 so you have a lot more resolution to work with and the picture is large already to begin with. I still have the 1st gen in use that I gave my brother in LA and occasionally connect remotely to catch games, but when I bought the 2nd gen, that is the main one I connect to now. So spend the extra money for better resolution, higher LAN streaming, and better remote watching resolution.

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RED.

Do not buy. This first gen version is crap. Watching TV over local network is poor. Get the new version or the Hava. DONT waste $70 on this.

RED!

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onion said:RED.

Do not buy. This first gen version is crap. Watching TV over local network is poor. Get the new version or the Hava. DONT waste $70 on this.

RED!

I have this box and found it to be pretty good. Locally, I can stream up to 1mb/s which gives me very clear picture. I can watch football games without a problem. With cable internet at home, I can stream up to 400-500kb/s remotely which give me very acceptable quality.

Overall, the technology is pretty good. Don't judge if you don't own it. However, $75 is only warm because you can get a better model with a few more dollars.

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onion said:RED.

Do not buy. This first gen version is crap. Watching TV over local network is poor. Get the new version or the Hava. DONT waste $70 on this.

RED!

Am I reading your con correctly.

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howdumb7 said:onion said:RED.

Do not buy. This first gen version is crap. Watching TV over local network is poor. Get the new version or the Hava. DONT waste $70 on this.

RED!


I have this box and found it to be pretty good. Locally, I can stream up to 1mb/s which gives me very clear picture. I can watch football games without a problem. With cable internet at home, I can stream up to 400-500kb/s remotely which give me very acceptable quality.

Overall, the technology is pretty good. Don't judge if you don't own it. However, $75 is only warm because you can get a better model with a few more dollars.
NOOB!! Yes Ive owned it and the newer versions like the Hava and new sling. This classic first gen is GARBAGE. You have no idea how poor the image quality is over local network compared to the newer gen or Hava. This first gen can only do 1/4 the resolution of the Hava and new sling. It also uses awful compression technology. You have no idea noob.

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or could run orb on a boxen and stream to anything for free with any ole tv tuner.


this is for the kind of people that do not like having clutter near tv.

i must hide my computers if they are anywhere in the living room. or else.

unless its a 24" mac; lol which i can't afford.

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Hmm lets see...$60 for a Hava or $200 for a PC to run Orb which produces lower quality image and uses 10 as much electricity.......point is, Orb sucks.

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so hava is better at transmitting a component feed in (sat box) that i'm recording to play back on my treo 650 or S60/S90 phone?

how much better and at what resolution/bandwidth?

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I have been using this (as well as newer versions of slingboxes) over the past few years. I think the Slingbox classic works just as well as the new versions. Nonetheless, $70 is not a hot price for this model.

onion said:howdumb7 said:onion said:RED.

Do not buy. This first gen version is crap. Watching TV over local network is poor. Get the new version or the Hava. DONT waste $70 on this.

RED!


I have this box and found it to be pretty good. Locally, I can stream up to 1mb/s which gives me very clear picture. I can watch football games without a problem. With cable internet at home, I can stream up to 400-500kb/s remotely which give me very acceptable quality.

Overall, the technology is pretty good. Don't judge if you don't own it. However, $75 is only warm because you can get a better model with a few more dollars.
NOOB!! Yes Ive owned it and the newer versions like the Hava and new sling. This classic first gen is GARBAGE. You have no idea how poor the image quality is over local network compared to the newer gen or Hava. This first gen can only do 1/4 the resolution of the Hava and new sling. It also uses awful compression technology. You have no idea noob.

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onion said:RED.

Do not buy. This first gen version is crap. Watching TV over local network is poor. Get the new version or the Hava. DONT waste $70 on this.

RED!
I've had this for over a year and it works great on my Moto Q, work PC, and my friend in the western Carribean uses it to stream American TV crystal clear to his PC. You have no idea what you're talking about in calling this "crap".

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rigor said:or could run orb on a boxen and stream to anything for free with any ole tv tuner.


this is for the kind of people that do not like having clutter near tv.

i must hide my computers if they are anywhere in the living room. or else.

unless its a 24" mac; lol which i can't afford.


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i must hide my computers if they are anywhere in the living room. or else.
unless its a 24" mac; lol which i can't afford.

The 24" Mac should be displayed on the front porch...
Just like the old days when you put your new fridge there....

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Onion is right on this one. The first gen Sling only does 320x240 native resolution which is a small size on your screen. If you increase the size, the picture becomes pixelated and difficult to watch remotely. On the LAN it's ok, but high moving sports like Basketball is hard to see once the image is blown up and you are streaming from a remote location. Cell phones it's fine because most only do 320x240 max. The 2nd or newer does 640x480 so you have a lot more resolution to work with and the picture is large already to begin with. I still have the 1st gen in use that I gave my brother in LA and occasionally connect remotely to catch games, but when I bought the 2nd gen, that is the main one I connect to now. So spend the extra money for better resolution, higher LAN streaming, and better remote watching resolution.

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The first gen Sling only does 320x240 native resolution


Is it ok for a PSP

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i put a first gen on a dead near zero OC-3 line at work and the picture was crummy. I guess the codec maybe improved since then but that was my experience. It was pumping out a bit of bandwidth like a megabit so i'm not sure what to say. Perhaps the use of analog input requires alot more work than a pure digital signal since there will always be noise and that was apparent on some stations. (analog meaning composite or svid through a satellite box; not rabbit ears).

I've seen much better results from other products using less bandwidth such as a pc with ORB. but now that you can have a good looking HTPC thats small and affordable one must wonder.

Does this version still let you switch inputs? That was a good feature since you could have a TV (analog) and video source say a camera and switch between them.

What i didn't like about sling was that they changed the firmware after I bought it to restrict its usage in efforts to keep the media monsters from suing their pants off. that wasn't very cool of them to change the product (for the worse) after you bought it with certain assumptions.

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I don't have a PSP but I don't think the PSP is supported. You actually use an external program separate from a web browser, whether it be on your desktop or PDA Phone. Windows mobile is supported as is Palm. You have to pay $29.99 I believe for the ability to watch on a mobile device as you need to download the software for your PDA phone. Desktop program for Mac and Windows is free. I use mine on my pda phone and get great results. I watch sports and shows on the go with ease.

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smiledrs said:I don't have a PSP but I don't think the PSP is supported. You actually use an external program separate from a web browser, whether it be on your desktop or PDA Phone. Windows mobile is supported as is Palm. You have to pay $29.99 I believe for the ability to watch on a mobile device as you need to download the software for your PDA phone. Desktop program for Mac and Windows is free. I use mine on my pda phone and get great results. I watch sports and shows on the go with ease.

OK, TU

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smiledrs said:I don't have a PSP but I don't think the PSP is supported. You actually use an external program separate from a web browser, whether it be on your desktop or PDA Phone. Windows mobile is supported as is Palm. You have to pay $29.99 I believe for the ability to watch on a mobile device as you need to download the software for your PDA phone. Desktop program for Mac and Windows is free. I use mine on my pda phone and get great results. I watch sports and shows on the go with ease.

Sorry for being a noob on this: Does watching on your PDA phone require additional services/charges from your phone carrier (I have Verizon wireless, only using it for voice, no texting nor data).

I would love this opportunity (watch on my phone) but don't want to subscribe to an Internet package/service on my phone as actual watching will just be a few minutes here and there.

TIA

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yeah the sling player uses internet to play. alot of bandwidth. don't dare you try this without some sort of data plan

but thats what the sprint unlimited is all bout

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zgenerale said:smiledrs said:I don't have a PSP but I don't think the PSP is supported. You actually use an external program separate from a web browser, whether it be on your desktop or PDA Phone. Windows mobile is supported as is Palm. You have to pay $29.99 I believe for the ability to watch on a mobile device as you need to download the software for your PDA phone. Desktop program for Mac and Windows is free. I use mine on my pda phone and get great results. I watch sports and shows on the go with ease.

Sorry for being a noob on this: Does watching on your PDA phone require additional services/charges from your phone carrier (I have Verizon wireless, only using it for voice, no texting nor data).

I would love this opportunity (watch on my phone) but don't want to subscribe to an Internet package/service on my phone as actual watching will just be a few minutes here and there.

TIA

If your PDA phone has WiFi you can hook via that and enjoy TV while on the crapper. If not, a data plan is a must. Verizon does use 3G internet for the PDA phone so you should have no problem streaming if you decide to go that route. I use this software when I travel on my laptop as well and while waiting for my flight, I hook up my sprint PDA phone to the laptop and stream to it while I surf.

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