Does any one know if the package comes with an actual copy of MGS4 on a blueray disk? Or is it installed on the hard drive?

DealCow said:jhisgen said:WRONG. There are not hardware differences.

It is a software emulation. Please do a search before you post garbage.

You're right, i did further research and found that this is the same 80GB we've always had. It's debatable whether or not it's an improvement over the 40GB, since it's still a software based solution. I'd probably get by with just the 40gb at this point.

It's not debatable. jhisgen should have done a search before posting garbage. The 80GB is a software solution, but it's not hard to debate that a software solution is better than NO solution. The 40GB can not play PS2 games, PERIOD. The 80GB can, through software emulation (with the exception of a relatively small percentage of titles that still have some glitches with emulation). In addition, the 80GB has twice the USB ports (So add $20 to the 40GB for a hub if you want to play Rockband), SACD support (nada on the 40GB), and can read flash cards. Plus the dual-shock controller.

It's debatable whethter those differences are important to YOU, but there is no question that there are differences in the hardware.

will 24hr WalMart put the bundle up for sale at midnight?

mdyoung said:Don't know if the PS3 Rockband is the same as the XBOX 360 version, but the XBOX version comes with a powered USB hub. If you don't have any PS2 games, would you really miss not being able to play PS2 games on the PS3?
No, the PS3 version of Rockband doesn't come with a USB hub. So you need one connection for the drum set, one for the mic, one for the wireless guitar dongle (don't know why they didn't just make bluetooth), and a fourth usb port if you add a second guitar (and you may have other needs for those ports, such as for an IR dongle). Obviously, if you don't care about PS2, SACD, etc., then the differences are moot. But the point remains, there ARE hardware differences. They may not a big deal, but people should be aware of them to ensure they get the version that addresses THEIR needs. I've seen several people post buying 40GB versions then being all upset because it wouldn't play PS2, or wouldn't play their SACDs, or whatever. It doesn't help when people post falsely that they have the same capabilities. They don't.

dscline said:whether those differences are important to YOU, but there is no question that there are differences in the hardware.

another consideration for me is the playTV (see here for info) addon for the PS3 that will be available soon. I think the larger HD will be huge plus when saving TV shows....just my 2cents

WalMart never has anything on release day. Don't expect the 80GB PS3 until after the 14th of June and probably not until after the 19th.

mdyoung said:Being new to game playing, can you see the difference between a PS2 game and PS3 game when played on the PS3?
Of course. A PS3 game will look better. But ever since firmware 1.80, the PS3 has been able to upscale not just DVDs, but PS1 and PS2 games as well. My PS2 games look better played through my PS3 than they do played through my PS2.

mdyoung said:simmias said:mdyoung said:Being new to game playing, can you see the difference between a PS2 game and PS3 game when played on the PS3?
Of course. A PS3 game will look better. But ever since firmware 1.80, the PS3 has been able to upscale not just DVDs, but PS1 and PS2 games as well. My PS2 games look better played through my PS3 than they do played through my PS2.

What I meant is the same game played side by side on a PS3 (PS2 version and PS3 version), can you tell which one is the PS3 version? I understand that you are saying a PS2 game looks better when played on a PS3, but is it as good or close as a PS3 game?

haha, wow... have you been to a WalMart or anywhere else and seen the difference? it's not even comparable. that's why the ps3 is 500 bucks and the ps2 is, what, 50?

centex99 said:What # did you call to find the info on any purchase over $299 will qualify for the $100 rebate? I know the site mentions any purchase over $299 will qualify for 0% financing, however it says only the PS3 purchase will qualify for the $100 rebate.
I only ask as I'm intending to purchase the MGS4 package, and got instantly approved for the card today... so am not sure if I'll get the card in time. What are the chances of getting it within a week?

I just applied for credit and they actually approved me on the spot AND gave me my numbers to use right away, including a "temporary" security code and expiration date. Very cool. If I were you, I'd try giving them a call and getting the number from them.

jlbmw2002 said:washin said:sam19777 said:Also, if in the future we can save a game to the console, 40G owner will screw up because some games might be as big as 50G according to Sony


randall said:
The main appeal of the MGS4 bundle is you get MGS4, the rumble dual shock controller and the 80gb ps3. The 80gb version lets you play ps2 games. The 40gb does not.

You can upgrade the HD yourself, search on google how to upgrade PS3 Hard drive. Read here

The 80GB bundle has the better Emulation Hardware that allows PS2 and PSone games to be played Back correctly without much problems.
DualShock3 is also about 50 or 60 dollars and totally worth it.

It's not about the Hard drive, it's about the hardware inside.

My post never said anything about the 40GB and 80 GB PS3 hardware capabilities. If you cared to read all the post the hardware comparison is already beaten to death, the hard drive upgrade also applies to 80 GB model, you can upgrade to 120 160 GB disks. I am trying to help people make informed decision, especially those who do not own PS2 PS1 games do not need backward compatibility .