Intel E2200 + ECS GF7050VT-M board for 79.99 @ Frys BM Archived From: Hot Deals |
Frys is selling the E2200, intels 2.2Ghz 1MB cache chip and the ECS GF7050VT-M board for 79.99. According to yng68bld, it is the retail chip with fan. Looks like a good cheap upgrade for my AMD64 3800+. If anyone has opinions on this chip or board, and its ability to overclock, let me know.
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just picked one up, it's the retail CPU with fan and heatsink.
Thanks.
It looks like the board has overclocking options, which this chip is great at. Also looks like DDR memory voltage can be changed which will work well for the Crucial memory I picked up that runs at 2.1v.
Anyone know how this compares to the AMD 5200+ w/ECS Geforce 6100M deal that Fry's had last weekend for $89.99? It's awfully hard to tell how much of a performance difference there is between different Fry's mobo/CPU combo deals in the sub-$100 price range.
I almost bought the AMD 4800+ w/ECS NForce 6A mobo a week or so ago for $69.99, but the CPU was a tray processor, not retail boxed. I really wanted it to replace a bad NForce 6A mobo, but I turned it down anyways.
My last ECS motherboard ECS G31T-M has overclocking options in the BIOS, but they don't do anything. You'll have to pad mod this in order to get any overclocking.
Here's a long thread about an older deal (different motherboard) and overclocking:
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/801898
The chip should do 2.9GHz with a simple BSEL mod and maybe a volt mod (see the link above). People with more expensive overclocking motherboards have gotten it to 3.2GHz+. If the BSEL mod works for you, it's a nice quick chip, close to the performance of a stock E6750. Even at the stock speed the E2200 is pretty snappy for everyday use, especially for the price.
I don't know anything about how this GF7050VT-M handles the BSEL mod or if it even works or not.
Not as good as last week's combo deal. Retail boxed E4500+same MB at the same price.
Good price, I bought the same thing from Fry's about a month ago for $100. Too bad price match for computer components is on ly 15 days...
According to this thread: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/823361 this board has a "BSEL Select" option in the bios, which works the same way as physically modding the chip. I will give that a try later this evening. Here is the instructions: it should be under Frequency/Voltage control. You'll see CPU BSEL select set to auto -- change that to 1066, save and exit cmos
BSEL to 2.93GHz on the E2200 on the ECS 945GCT motherboards has been excellent. Even on the stock crappy retail HSF. Would be interesting to see how the GF7050VT board handles BSEL. Not a bad deal but the E2200 + ECS 945GCT was $59.99 when the dealio was going on.
Copper tape (~$2.50 at Fry's while you're there) is the best/easiest way to perform the BSEL for me. Just use a razor knife and cut it out exactly how you need to link the two points! I've built 8 new machines in the past 30 days so I'm done buying CPU/MB combos until I can reload up Antec NSK4480's @ $50 + tax or below and some 8800GT cards under $100 after MIR.
Cheers,
Eemrek
NeverPayRetail said:Anyone know how this compares to the AMD 5200+ w/ECS Geforce 6100M deal that Fry's had last weekend for $89.99? It's awfully hard to tell how much of a performance difference there is between different Fry's mobo/CPU combo deals in the sub-$100 price range.
I almost bought the AMD 4800+ w/ECS NForce 6A mobo a week or so ago for $69.99, but the CPU was a tray processor, not retail boxed. I really wanted it to replace a bad NForce 6A mobo, but I turned it down anyways.
I believe this chip is a little faster at stock speeds and much faster if overclocked. Also, if using the onboard video, that board has the 6100, and this one is the 7050.
Edit:
Actually, after some research the Intel E2200 is a little slower than the AMD 5600: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-shootout_9.html
The AMD is faster in gaming generally, and Intel is faster in media. But overclocked, this chip will be faster. And the Intel uses less power.
You can save that $2.50 
I get it done with a little piece of aluminum foil from kitchen and a tiny piece of tape. Cut it in "]" shape and short the two pins.
Eemrek said:...
Copper tape (~$2.50 at Fry's while you're there) is the best/easiest way to perform the BSEL for me. Just use a razor knife and cut it out exactly how you need to link the two points! I've built 8 new machines in the past 30 days so I'm done buying CPU/MB combos until I can reload up Antec NSK4480's @ $50 + tax or below and some 8800GT cards under $100 after MIR.
Cheers,
Eemrek
NeverPayRetail said:Anyone know how this compares to the AMD 5200+ w/ECS Geforce 6100M deal that Fry's had last weekend for $89.99? It's awfully hard to tell how much of a performance difference there is between different Fry's mobo/CPU combo deals in the sub-$100 price range.
I almost bought the AMD 4800+ w/ECS NForce 6A mobo a week or so ago for $69.99, but the CPU was a tray processor, not retail boxed. I really wanted it to replace a bad NForce 6A mobo, but I turned it down anyways.
If you are only comparing the CPU power then a AM2-5200+ at stock speed is a little faster then a E6400.
As for the mobo, if you plan to game then both are junk especially if you play to use the onboard. Outside of that, there are plenty of things to look into. At stock speed then I would take the 5200+ over E2200. If you plan to get a better board and overclock then maybe the E2200... maybe... since the 5200+ can o/c well even with that crap 6100M.
Another thing the E2200 is a Allendale with 1MB so half the cache of E6400 and no VT plus it is NOT C2D meaning no shaing of cache which made the C2D superior which means it has nothing special over AMD... Benchmark aside, I am still with 5200+ eventhough I am an ex-AMD guy that switched to C2D/C2Q but picked up 4 x 5200+ recently for gifts and light PC/server. My gaming rig is still a C2Q and spare gaming is C2D both o/c to 3.6 with 4GB 1066 each... BUT for the price, I would go 5200+ especially if you do not plan to put money into a quality mobo, GPU, RAM, PSU, etc.
Hope that helps
daviddyer said:Not as good as last week's combo deal. Retail boxed E4500+same MB at the same price.
Except I don't think So Cal was running that deal. I would have bought one if it was.
picking one up. anyone confirm the BSEL o/c in the bios? that would make this one sweet deal 
deal is good in phoenix, might be good for a little hackintosh as well
AkumaX said:picking one up. anyone confirm the BSEL o/c in the bios? that would make this one sweet deal
I bought the board, and in the manual, the setting is right where he says it should be. So I have to assume he was right. I will try to set it up tonight.
I replaced the cpu/board in my system with this one, and the setting works, so it overclocks to 2933Mhz by changing the value to 1066. I also set the next setting to unlinked and 1066/800 so that my ram runs at 800 and that appears to be working as well according to CPU-Z. I am running Prime95 right now to see how stable it is, but so far, it is running fine.
The one odd thing I have noticed, is that when nothing is running on the system, CPU-Z reports my system as running at 1600mhz with 6 multiplier and when something runs, it shows it as 2933mhz with 11 multi. Is that normal, or a bug somewhere? I didn't think Intel adjusted the multiplier like AMD's Cool-n-Quiet does (my old cpu).
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