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george2001
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posted: Aug. 6, 2008 @ 10:01a
tomas21 said:So what batteries in addition to the ones that come with the BC-900 do you recommend as spares? Link I have a set of the Ray-o-vac hybrids that are working very well. I also hear good things about the Sanyo "eneloop" hybrids. |
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Money5555
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posted: Aug. 6, 2008 @ 10:27a
george2001 said:tomas21 said:So what batteries in addition to the ones that come with the BC-900 do you recommend as spares?
Link
I have a set of the Ray-o-vac hybrids that are working very well. I also hear good things about the Sanyo "eneloop" hybrids. I'm also using the Sanyo Eneloop for my Wii and other remotes and are still holding their charges after 6 months. |
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tomas21
- New Member
posted: Aug. 6, 2008 @ 1:55p
Well I think I'm going to buy the BC-900 & the Costco eneloops pkg. Thanks, also, for the tip about Costco selling the eneloops. Great price. You get 8 AA’s, 2 AAA’s, a bunch of plastic sleeves that convert the AA’s to C’s & D’s and a charger for under $30 (as of Aug. 3, 2008). |
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MISURICK
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posted: Sep. 27, 2008 @ 7:53p
back to $39.99  |
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MISURICK
- Senior Member - 10K
posted: Nov. 2, 2008 @ 10:49a
$37.99  |
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cabby
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 7, 2008 @ 7:32a
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GetRhythm
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posted: Nov. 8, 2008 @ 8:19a
back up to $39.99 this morning  |
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MISURICK
- Senior Member - 10K
posted: Nov. 24, 2008 @ 2:39a
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poohbie
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Nov. 24, 2008 @ 3:03a
Does this charger have issues sometime in detecting end of charge @ the default 200mA charge rate? I was charging my 2000mA Eneloops @200mA and it seemed to charge longer than normal and voltage went up over 1.5v. |
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cjtrue
- Addicted Member
posted: Nov. 24, 2008 @ 4:12a
poohbie said:Does this charger have issues sometime in detecting end of charge @ the default 200mA charge rate? I was charging my 2000mA Eneloops @200mA and it seemed to charge longer than normal and voltage went up over 1.5v.If the cell was completely discharged, you can expect it to take 15 hours (1.5 * 2000mah / 200 ma) to fully charge at that rate. And yes, the voltage drop is hard to detect (for any charger) at that slow charge rate, especially if the battery was only partially discharged. |
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Alan69
- Ancient Member
posted: Nov. 24, 2008 @ 11:03a
microwiz said: There's also a paperclip-shorting trick that you can do on the BC-900, but given that I have other semi-dumb chargers around (2 from the Costco Eneloop kit deal and 2 of the clearanced Duracell chargers from Walgreens that can also be used as car chargers and USB power supplies), I have never had the courage or inclination to try. I understand it might damage the BC-900 too, so stick with the dumb chargers for the initial top-up!
Hope that helps... I feel your pain over having bought Tenergy batteries too. Tenergy and even the simple charger have been ok for me, at least for casual use..
Just for clarity, the paperclip trick isn't really fooling the charger as some imply. You're simply using one cell to quickly charge the other cell up a bit, and at a high enough current to clear most whiskers etc. When doing this the charger is basically just holding your batteries and providing the bottom contact. You could just as easily use two pieces of wire and short the batteries together (like pole to like) outside the charger and then quickly put the dud in the charger. Of course you're working the donor battery very hard, use one that's near the end of life anyway.
Since the charger should only be supplying current and reading the voltage, and should be able to handle a shorted cell, it should be ok to do this in charger. But I don't have one yet and haven't studied it, so can't say this 100%, it is just from general understanding of chargers so most will get what's going on when you do this. If you want to resurrect a cell and not risk your charger, do it outside the charger then quickly put it in. Also a good idea to do this behind a sheet of plexi, batteries have a lot of stored energy and you're dumping a lot fast doing this, there is some risk of fire or explosion. And also of course do not do this with Lithium Ion since they are far more likely to explode. PS If you do this with wire then make sure you aren't actually holding the wire with bare fingers. The wire could get extremely hot if the cell is hard shorted or takes a few seconds to clear, and you may not feel it heating in time to avoid a burn.. Also occurs that for AA you could put the bad and a good inside one of the 2 AA cell D size adapters for a few seconds to do this, then move the bad cell to the charger. |
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mpugozong
- Thrifty Member
posted: Nov. 30, 2008 @ 7:56a
Stereodude said:bluevideo said:Don't be fooled by Amazon's notice that there's a "newer" model... said newer model has fewer options and doesn't include any extra accessories.Yes, but the BC-700 is cheaper and doesn't come with the crappy / worthless batteries. I got a BC-700 from Amazon for $29.95. I have one of each, and the BC-700 is very bit as good if you don't use the higher current charge rates (which you probably shouldn't to maximize your battery life). Now I am confused. How come according to this site, you suppose to charge NiMH batteries with higher current (at least 0.5C) to prevent overcharge, which in turn increase battery life. (--Charging NiMH battery--) |
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jimmyzshack
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posted: Dec. 1, 2008 @ 11:45a
This is alive again for $37.99 |
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MISURICK
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posted: Dec. 8, 2008 @ 2:39p
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thietlong
- Broke Member
posted: Dec. 8, 2008 @ 4:03p
Thanks, guess I just have to cough up the $37 for this one since like most FWers, strike out on the previous BC-700 for $7 bux + shipping. I wonder if this qualified for the wired rebate or not? |
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tripper
- Member
posted: Dec. 8, 2008 @ 6:04p
Does anyone know what may be going on with my charger? Is it defective? It will charge the batteries for as long as it's supposed to, then it says that they're "full." I take them out and use them in my Canon P&S camera but they only last for 3-5 pictures before the camera throws up the "Low battery" sign. I tried another set of rechargeables and another device, and it's definitely the charger, because I noted the same behavior. Could I be doing something wrong or did I just get a dud? |
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budster
- Senior Member
posted: Dec. 8, 2008 @ 9:29p
I only use Eneloop or Duracell LSD rechargeable batteries. I don't use non-LSD NiMH batteries. Is the Eneloop charger (from the Costco deal) good enough for LSD batteries? Is the BC-900 geared more towards non-LSD batteries or would LSD batteries also benefit from this charger? |
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TakeTheActive
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Dec. 9, 2008 @ 5:44p
mpugozong said:...How come according to this site, you suppose to charge NiMH batteries with higher current (at least 0.5C) to prevent overcharge, which in turn increase battery life. (--Charging NiMH battery--)Because some folks give quick, generalized, 'off-the-cuff' answers while others give long, detailed, technical ones (as provided by your LINK). I assembled some info for reference a few weeks back in my thread La Crosse BC-900 vs Maha MH-C9000 when I was reading info on the Battery University, Battery FAQ, CandlePower Forums and in the Amazon Reviews. |
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TakeTheActive
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Dec. 9, 2008 @ 6:25p
tripper said:Does anyone know what may be going on with my charger? Is it defective? It will charge the batteries for as long as it's supposed to, then it says that they're "full."...No idea. You haven't given enough details for someone to even suggest an appropriate answer. - What capacity / kind of batteries?
- New or old?
- "...as long as it's supposed to..." - What does that mean?
- What charging rate? - What mode? - Maybe the batteries are worn out? - Maybe you got a FALSE FULL indication?
- etc...
tripper said:... I take them out and use them in my Canon P&S camera but they only last for 3-5 pictures before the camera throws up the "Low battery" sign...Some devices have VOLTAGE-DEPENDENT "Low Battery" sensors. They're calibrated for alkalines at 1.5VDC each. NiMh's are 1.2VDC each.
tripper said:...I tried another set of rechargeables and another device, and it's definitely the charger, because I noted the same behavior...- What kind of batteries?
- New or old?
- What "device"?
- "...noted the same behavior..." - what behavior? Is it another camera?
tripper said:...Could I be doing something wrong or did I just get a dud?REFRESH some known good (but NOT brand new!) NiMh's at 0.5C. What's the final MAH reading on the BC-900?TEST the original NiMh's from your Canon. What's the final MAH reading on the BC-900? |
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TakeTheActive
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Dec. 9, 2008 @ 6:47p
budster said:...Is the Eneloop charger (from the Costco deal) good enough for LSD batteries?"...good enough..." is certainly a subjective term. Sure it's good enough - that's why they sell it. But, is it good enough for YOUR needs?
budster said:...Is the BC-900 geared more towards non-LSD batteries or would LSD batteries also benefit from this charger?What makes you think that there's a difference? I've assembled quite a bit of good information in my thread La Crosse BC-900 vs Maha MH-C9000. I strongly recommend anyone interested in learning more about rechargeable battery technology invest a FEW HOURS of reading. |
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