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just noticed this while doing a search on live.com for the wii... basically eBay is giving 35% off pretty much anything on their site (only Buy It Now w/ PayPal items) through a Microsoft CashBack program. this is huge... you can get up to $250 back. i just bought a roomba and got $100 off.

here's where i found the 35% off: http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=nintendo+wii&form=QBRE ... not sure if they have higher % off in other places?

here are the terms and conditions on eBay's site: http://pages.ebay.com/cashbackoffer/terms.html
looks like you can do this up to 3 times.
Edit by Moderator: Clarified Title
Edit by Moderator: Updated again. It'll drop to 20, 25, 15, back to 30, etc. Keep an eye out in this thread for more details.

Message edited by: pkchen on 2008-10-28 10:55:52 CDT
Cash Back is available from FatWallet!eBay: 1.0% Cash Back » See offers, coupons, ratings, and applicable restrictions. (see conditions)
Moderator Comment: Please remember that it is unacceptable to request or offer cached links. It equates to coupon begging. --Bo — Aug. 17, 2008 @ 7:04pm

New program: Get SearchPerks [11/15].

CashBack on MS live.com:
NOW 25% try this search for "gold" (11/16 @ 9:33 PM EST) - limit 12 transactions per ebay account, $200 cashback per transaction.

READ BEFORE YOU ASK A QUESTION!!!

At this point, just about any questions you might have has been asked several times. If you don't want to incur the wrath of many short-tempered FWers, read this Quick Summary first. That should answer most questions. If your question is still not answered, SEARCH THE THREAD for your question/answer using the search function up near the top (right under the topic title).

Working search terms:
Terms giving 30% CashBack: None known at present.
Terms giving 25% 'Paul Potts', 'gold', 'playstation', 'd40x', 'xsi', 'wii', 'ps3', 'net a'(you may have to reload the page several times to get the 25% off eBay link to come up).

You may need to refresh browser/enter new keywords to get above percentage. Cached links may still work.

>>>Step by Step with Screenshots<<<

******** QUICK OVERVIEW ******* (thanks Troop)


  1. Go to eBay.com and find an item you want to buy (it MUST have a Buy it now option with paypal)
  2. You can get up to $200 per completed item/auction. When the discount is 30% you'd get maximum ($200)
    CashBack with a $666.67 item ($200 is 30% of $666.67). With 25% you'd get maximum CashBack with an $800 item.
  3. Add that item to your watch list.
  4. Click on one of the "Working search terms" listed above.
  5. Click on the 30% (or 25% or 20% - whatever the current amount is) banner (Live Search CashBack).
  6. Now you are in eBay go to My eBay and look at items on your watchlist.
  7. Click on the watchlist item you want to buy.
  8. Click on 'Buy it now'.
  9. Before 'Committing to Buy', be sure the CashBack details are shown on the screen with the proper percentage (maximum $200) of the item(s) value.
  10. Check out and pay with Paypal and the CashBack will be yours!

Note: If you do not receive a Cash Back message in your eBay Inbox in a few days, contact eBay through chat support. They will manually send the message to you.

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Useful links:
Live.com's "how Live Search CashBack" works": link.
Live.com's "CashBack FAQ": link.
Live.com CashBack terms: link.
eBay CashBack terms: link.

Note that the eBay CashBack terms are controlling with respect to the Microsoft terms. In the advent of a conflict, the eBay terms take precedence.

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FAQ (please also see live.com's expanded CashBack FAQ here).

1) How long does it take for the CashBack to show up as pending?
From the live.com CashBack FAQ (here) "Most CashBack rewards appear as pending within a day or two, but occasionally a store may take longer to tell us about an eligible purchase. If you made a purchase more than two days ago that isn't displayed in your CashBack account, contact us with your purchase details. We'll get back to you just as soon as we can".

2) How does the CashBack link to your live.com account?
When you open live.com account its linked to your eBay and paypal via eBay.

3) Can I search for something say "Wii" and buy something else on eBay and still get CashBack.
Yes (unless MSFT/eBay change the rules).

4) How do I know if I am eligible for the additional 10% off one-time-use coupon?
If eBay sent you an email to your registered eBay email address or if you can see the 10% off coupon on the eBay homepage, then you are eligible.

5) How do I "cash out" my available CashBack balance?
60 days after purchase, you can withdraw CashBack funds ONLY through paypal. ( No Check / Bank account option ) It will take an additional 7 days for the CashBack to appear in your paypal account. There are no paypal fees associated. ( personal / business account )

6) Does it work for Auction items?
No, this only works for "Buy It Now" (BIN) items and only when you pay with Paypal. Third party checkouts do not qualify for CashBack.

7) Does your Microsoft CashBack email (live.com login) have to be the same as your eBay account?
No, it can be anything (preferably your paypal email).

8) Can I have more than one eBay account linked to the same live CashBack account? Can I use the same paypal account for all my eBay accounts?
Yes. Yes.

9) What is the limit for CashBack?
It is $200 per transaction and a max. of 12 transactions per eBay account(see above highlighted). $2500 total ( eBay & other merchants ) per live account per calendar year. (updated to reflect new T&C)

10) Can I buy multiple quantities of something (for ex. 3 Wii for $1000) in the same auction and get CashBack?
Yes, but the max. per transaction is $200, so the purchase of the 3 Wiis in the same auction count as a single transaction and you'd get $200 CashBack.

11) Are eBay Motors purchases eligible for CashBack?
Yes. There used to be problems with eBay motors purchases not registering on Live during the beginning of the promotion but this is fixed now. Note that "purchases of automobiles or other vehicles" are not eligible for CashBack.

12) When will the current % discount change?
Good question. If you know the answer, tell the rest of us.

13) Can an eBay seller tell that I've used live.com CashBack on an item I've purchased from them?
Yes. The seller can see that you've used CashBack on their "Order Details" page.

14) If I make an offer on a "Buy it Now or Best Offer" auction can I get live.com CashBack?
No. Live.com CashBack doesn't work with the "Best Offer" option. You will either have to use
the "Buy it Now" option on the auction or ask the seller to make a new "Buy it Now" auction at your
offer price. Some sellers will, some won't bother.

15) I'm a TWC/RR customer and I'm unable to access the Get Cash Back button in My Message to create my account, what do I do?
1) Goto http://ww23.rr.com/prefs.php (or whatever redirection service is for your area). You can also find this out by typing tracert cashbackaccount.search.live.com on a cmd box and use the IP addresss of the last server hit.
2) Select disable redirection (this is the first option - web address redirection service).

16) Can I get CashBack for buying "modern currency"?
When the live.com CashBack program began, there were sellers offering "modern currency" (i.e. cash) which people bought for the CashBack rebate. eBay/PayPal considered it "money laundering" and put a stop to it, cancelling auctions and CashBack, and booting some sellers.

17) What happens if I exceed the $2,500 calendar year CashBack cap?
It depends. If a single purchase puts you over the cap (from the live.com CashBack FAQ here):
"if a single purchase causes you to meet and also exceed this cap, you can still earn all the CashBack savings associated with that purchase, provided that all other eligibility requirements are met."
If you make purchases once you're over the cap (from the live.com CashBack terms here):
"You will not earn CashBack rewards on purchases where ... (h) you exceed the annual monetary cap on CashBack rewards."
A FWer reported that they emailed CashBack support and received the following concerning overages:
"You can still keep shoping and earn CashBack , simply you just can not cashout your earning until that calandar year is up."
implying that you would still earn CashBack over the $2,500 cap but just couldn't get the extra until the next calendar year, but this interpretation cannot be found in any of the live.com documents online.

18) How do I know if a seller uses a third party checkout and isn't eligible for CashBack?
First go to the item you are interested in buying. Make sure you have the CashBack banner showing at the top of the page. Click "Buy it Now" (you won't be committing to buy at this point).
If there are multiple quantities of the item you will get the quantity-selection page which you must also click through. At this point you will be at the "commit to buy" page. If the item isn't eligible for CashBack you should see:
"Sorry, this item is not eligible for CashBack.
This offer requires you to check out on eBay / PayPal but this seller requires a third-party checkout."

19) Why is my CashBack now showing "pending" and "0 days left" at the same time?
The "0 days left" problem was apparently caused by an upgrade to the live.com site but now seems to be resolved.

20) Is the "12 online sessions per account" limit per calendar year or regardless of the time period?
It's apparently for the life of the program, regardless of the time period.
From the eBay CashBack terms (here):
vi. You may receive CashBack Rewards for up to a maximum of twelve (12) Online Sessions per account on www.eBay.com. Once you have completed twelve (12) Online Sessions under any eBay.com account, you will no longer be eligible to receive CashBack Rewards for purchases made under such eBay.com account. ;
Note that they could have added "per year" or "annually" several places in the above clause but they didn't. Users that try doing their 13th transaction receive the following message:
"Sorry, you have exceeded the maximum lifetime limits for this program and are no longer eligible."

21) My legitamate CashBack was denied, what do I do?
There's a new discussion thread on dealing with denied CashBack here.

22) Are there any current eBay/paypal coupons?
The following are currently reported active coupons (note in general eBay/paypal coupons only work if eBay/paypal
has specifically sent them to you, they are linked to your account): CHOLIDAYNOV2008 (10%), CPPEBAY110810P (10%), CFALL10P (10%), CHOLIDAYSAVE15P (15%). Your eBay email address must be on your PayPal account for a coupon to work.

23) Can I get CashBack for purchasing an gift card on eBay?
Yes. Although the Microsoft CashBack terms exclude store giftcards, the eBay CashBack terms allow them:
"Purchases on eBay.com of gift certificates, gift cards and items acquired for resale will be eligible for CashBack Rewards."
Note that eBay limits giftcards to maximum $500 face value. If you happen to purchase a giftcard of greater than $500 facevalue on eBay, eBay likely will cancel the auction retroactively.
Also there is a chance eBay will retroactively cancel an auction if you pay over $500 for a giftcard with facevalue of $500 or less.

24) If eBay cancels the Buy-It-Now "auction" for the item retroactively will I still get my CashBack?
Whether or not you get your CashBack seems to be controlled by the fate of the PayPal payment and not the auction.
If the seller refunds the money to you via PayPal you likely won't get the CashBack. If the seller goes through with the transaction you apparently will get the CashBack.

25) Do I have to pay immediately for my Buy-It-Now auction purchase to be eligible for CashBack?
From the eBay CashBack terms (here):
"ii You must purchase an eligible item using a www.eBay.com account, and you must pay for the eligible item using your PayPal account within the shorter of thirty (30) days of completing the purchase on www.eBay.com or the time frame specified by the seller."
So you have 30 days to pay unless the seller specifies a shorter time period. Most sellers these days will likely specify a shorter period. Note that if the Buy-It-Now specifies "Immediate Payment Required", you must pay immediately.

26) Why is some CashBack paid instantly paid to my paypal account instead of having to wait 60 days?
We're not really sure how it's decided to pay some CashBack instantly. From the live.com Cashcack FAQ (here):
"When you make a purchase that is eligible for CashBack on eBay using PayPal, PayPal might decide that your CashBack reward is eligible for immediate deposit (see eBay's terms and conditions). For these rewards, check the PayPal account that you used to make the purchase, and see your CashBack! For eBay purchases that are not rewarded immediately, your reward will be deposited automatically after 60 days to the PayPal account you used to make the purchase. If you decide to return your purchase with CashBack that was rewarded immediately, PayPal will reverse the CashBack reward."
Also, someone posted the following on another forum:
"eBay/Live Search CashBack V2 was launched yesterday. eBay and PayPal will determine if CashBack eligible purchases will receive either instant CashBack or will need to go through the 60 day pending period. Microsoft will not have a say in the decision. You will not know if the CashBack will be instant or pending until after the purchase. Another change is that all CashBack payment will automatically go to the PayPal account that was used to make the purchase.
No payment request is needed, everything will be done automatically. Instant CashBack will show in your PayPal account within minutes of making the purchase. Customer waiting the 60 days will have their CashBack automatically sent to their PayPal account when the pending period is over.
$200 CashBack per session and 12 session limit still applies. If a product is returned or if eBay/PayPal determines that CashBack is ineligible (return, cancellation, etc) after instant CashBack, PayPal will take back the CashBack from your account. This will cause a negative CashBack balance in your PayPal account."

A FEW UPDATES:
1) Users are reporting problems with registration and invalid security certificates with Firefox. Run Microsoft web code on a Microsoft browser for best results.

2) Many users are reporting missing CashBack entries in their CashBack account, even though they believe to have followed the rules & procedures exactly. YMMV.

3) Some users are reporting difficulty in getting response and resolution to issues through LIVE.com support. YMMV

4) Some users are reporting that Live.com/eBay/Paypal are "evolving" their interpretation of the terms & conditions, particularly for currency and bullion.

5) Once you link an eBay account with a live account by clicking the eBay message from your first CashBack purchase, you cannot change it. Every following CashBack purchase from that eBay account will go to the live account you have first linked it to. You do not have to click the CashBack button in the eBay message for the transactions number 2 through 12.

6) "Second Chance" offers with BIN work with CashBack.

7) If you are outside the United States: Change your live.com site to United States (English), use a US billing address for CashBack, and if you are unable to see the 30% banners, use Hotspot Shield. Without Hotspot Shield, the highest banner I can see in Japan is 20%.

8) File a complaint with the BBB if you've followed the rules and MS won't pay you

9) The eBay 10% coupon stacks with Live CashBack. However, only members that are pre-approved / notified by eBay are eligible. 1% FW CashBack may also stack with the MSFT promo.

10) Selling a giftcard at above face-value seems a good way to get your auction cancelled.

11) Paypal payouts are usually made weekly by mass-pay, on Fri - Sat.

12) People have been experiencing their "60 day" being pushed back a day at a time. ( Keeps on saying "1day left" ) It's a quite common problem. Just wait it out a few days and it will be available.

13) Oct. 28th press release from eBay discussing upcoming deals and live.com promotion here.

14) eBay's new holiday 'deals' page: eBay Deals.

15) eBay's "Holiday Best Practices" page here. Mentions that "eBay will be hitting millions of buyers with coupons-wherever they're searching".

16) eBay has send email to some sellers mentioning a '"pull-out-all-the-stops" Cyber Monday blitz' ("Cyber Monday" is December 1st this year).

17) Microsoft LiveSearch has started a new program "SearchPerks!" in which you earn rewards for searching via live.com. For more info SearchPerks! Faq. Note that SearchPerks! only works with Internet Explorer and Windows XP or Vista.

18) Two short articles at cnet.com on Microsoft's CashBack: Study: Microsoft Cashback attracting visitors and Microsoft touts 25 percent eBay Cashback rebate.

19) The Official Blog of The Live Search Team at Microsoft.

20) Reports are that some eBay purchases now result in CashBack being instantly paid to your paypal account. We haven't yet determined why some are paid instantly instead of the 60-day wait. (See Faq Question #26 above)

21) Several people have reported getting the "You have CashBack" message from eBay and clicking on "get CashBack" only to be redirected to an eBay site in a foreign country (Germany, .de, Australia, .au, Italy, .it, etc.) with an error message. Changing the end of the domain (".de", ".au", ".it") to .com in the link URL apparently fixes the error (note that there may be more than one place in the URL you need to make the change).

Message edited by: mekas on 2008-11-22 22:26:43 CST
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You have to go through an ad to get it, set up an account with the microsoft site, and the money you get must be spent through paypal.

Message edited by: bbwallet on 2008-06-16 12:04:42 CDT
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Here's the T&C and a different page showing T&C.

http://pages.ebay.com/cashbackoffer/terms.html?_trksid=m37

Your participation in Live Search CashBack (the “Program”) on www.eBay.com is subject to the Microsoft Service Agreement terms at http://tou.live.com (the “Program Terms”) and conditions plus the additional terms and conditions below. In the event of a conflict between these additional terms and the Program Terms, the terms below are controlling for your participation in the Program on www.eBay.com.
Additional Purchase Requirements. Your ability to earn CashBack rewards (“CashBack Rewards”) from Microsoft for purchases on www.eBay.com is subject to the following additional requirements:


You must successfully complete an eligible purchase on www.eBay.com using “Buy-It-Now” within sixty (60) minutes of clicking on an eBay paid search advertisement marked with the Live Search CashBack logo (a “Online Session”);
CashBack Rewards will be applied only to the first eligible item you commit to buy during an Online Session. CashBack Rewards will not be applied to any additional items or purchases. A single listing with multiple items will be considered one item for the purposes of these terms and conditions.
You must pay for the eligible item using your PayPal account within the shorter of thirty (30) days of completing the purchase on www.eBay.com and the time frame specified by the seller;
Only purchases that are completed on www.eBay.com during an Online Session in accordance with the Program Terms as modified by these additional terms are eligible for CashBack Rewards. The following purchases that are completed on www.eBay.com are not eligible for CashBack Rewards (“Excluded eBay Purchases”):


purchases that are completed on www.express.eBay.com or www.half.eBay.com;
purchases of automobiles or other vehicles;
purchases of real estate;
purchases that are completed using a third party checkout system.

If you attempt to complete any of the above Excluded eBay Purchases on www.eBay.com during an Online Session, eBay will notify you on the purchase review page of the “Buy-It-Now” transaction process that the purchase is not eligible. Please review the purchase review page carefully before you “commit to Buy”. eBay may add or remove types of purchases to the list of Excluded eBay Purchases in its sole discretion from time to time. Please review these terms and conditions before you complete a purchase.


eBay does not limit purchases eligible for CashBack Rewards by the purpose for which they are acquired (e.g., purchases acquired for resale). The CashBack Rewards that you are eligible to obtain from Microsoft will be disclosed to you on www.eBay.com and will be equal to a percentage of the final sale price of the first item purchased during an Online Session (excluding shipping and handling fees, insurance fees and other such fees), for up to a maximum of $250.00 per Online Session. CashBack Rewards will be available in your Program account to transfer to your PayPal account approximately sixty (60) days of the date on which you complete your purchase on eBay.com. You must have a PayPal account in order to receive CashBack Rewards for purchases on www.eBay.com. You may not redeem any CashBack Rewards until you have earned a total of $5.00 in CashBack Rewards;
After you complete an eligible purchase, before redeeming your CashBack Rewards, you must go to http://cashbackaccount.search.live.com/CashBack/welcome.aspx and set up a Program account by providing all of the required information (or, if you already have an account, confirm your membership status);
You may receive CashBack Rewards for up to a maximum of three (3) Online Sessions per account on www.eBay.com. Once you have completed three (3) Online Sessions under any eBay.com account, you will no longer be eligible to receive CashBack Rewards for purchases made under such eBay.com account. If you have exceeded the limit of permitted CashBack Rewards, eBay will notify you on the purchase review page of the “Buy-It-Now” transaction process. Please review the purchase review page carefully before you “commit to buy”. CashBack Rewards can not be transferred or applied to multiple eBay.com accounts;
The Program is open only to confirmed registered members of the eBay Site who (a) are legal residents of the United States, (b) are eighteen (18) years of age or older and (c) satisfy the requirements set forth herein and in the Program Terms;
You will not be eligible for CashBack Rewards for purchases on www.eBay.com if your account on www.eBay.com or www.PayPal.com is not in good standing. In order for your accounts to be deemed in good standing, you must not have a hold on either of your accounts and your accounts must not be suspended or past due when you pay for the item(s) you purchase;
eBay may permit you to combine CashBack Rewards with other eBay promotions, coupons, or gift certificates (each, an “eBay Promotion”) and may permit you to receive CashBack Rewards on purchases of gift cards or gift certificates. If eBay elects to do so, you will be provided with an opportunity to combine Cash Back Rewards with the eBay Promotion during the checkout flow on www.eBay.com. With the exception of eBay Promotions as described herein, CashBack Rewards cannot be combined with any other offer on purchases on www.eBay.com.
eBay provides Microsoft with limited information about your eligible purchase (such as the date, time, amount, and item description) when you apply for a CashBack Reward. Microsoft will use this information only to process and manage your CashBack Rewards, and not for any other purpose.


Additional Redemption Requirements. In addition to the redemption requirements in Program Terms, You must redeem CashBack Rewards obtained as a result of a purchase on www.eBay.com exclusively via your PayPal account.
Live Search CashBack is a program operated by Microsoft Corporation. CashBack Rewards are funded and paid by Microsoft. Your participation in the Program is subject to the Program Terms as supplemented by these additional terms. Neither eBay nor PayPal have any obligations to you regarding CashBack Rewards or your participation in the Program. You hereby agree to release eBay Inc. and PayPal, Inc. (and their officers, directors, agents, subsidiaries, joint ventures and employees) from claims, demands and damages (actual and consequential) of every kind and nature, known and unknown, arising out of or in any way connected with the Program. You will indemnify and hold eBay Inc. and PayPal, Inc. (and their officers, directors, agents, subsidiaries, joint ventures and employees), harmless from any claim or demand, including reasonable attorneys' fees, made by any third party due to or arising out of your breach of the Program Terms or these additional terms.

Use of www.eBay.com shall be governed by the eBay.com user agreement and privacy policy accessible here (collectively, the “eBay User Agreement”). Use of PayPal.com shall be governed by the PayPal.com user agreement and privacy policy accessible here (collectively, the “PayPal User Agreement”). You will not be eligible to participate in the Program if you fail to comply with the eBay User Agreement or PayPal User Agreement. Any information you provide to Microsoft on any Microsoft websites will be subject to Microsoft’s user agreement and privacy policy. eBay may update these terms from time to time by posting revised terms and conditions on www.eBay.com.

/edit/ Sorry for posting the whole thing, but wanted a C&P of it in case eBay/M$ change the T&C later...

And OP, this looks potentially very hot! Green!

Message edited by: PhDeez on 2008-06-16 12:07:21 CDT
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nice, wonder if theres a way to milk this system.

buy, resale, rebuy, etc. hmmm

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