Attention Florida Sunpass Users and people who never got one because it was too expensive...
The mini sticker is smaller than a Credit Card and as thin as anything you would put on your windshield. (pictured attached below)
The older big ass box you had to carry around was expensive so many people never bought it. Keep in mind you do save 25% on tolls with a sunpass. $1.00 tolls become $.75 cents!
BEFORE The Sticker deal:
$24.99 for the unit $25 minimum account balance to start ----------- $50 total out of pocket to get a New sunpass and Account.
NOW:
$4.99 for the sticker $10 Minimum balance $-5 credit towards balance on purchase of sticker --------------------------------- $10 for a brand new sunpass account!
**Existing customers with accounts also are eligble for the $5 credit
New SunPass Mini Sticker transponder now available at Publix, Navarro and Sedano's. Direct Link to more info: Program Details for the PDF. and the official sunpass website: Sunpass.com
P.S another small benefit it only works once you put it on, you cant remove it and put it on another car, so you cant get yours stolen ( sunpass has been stolen by Valets before) So its also anti-theft, and it comes to being free with the $5 credit so getting a new one when your 3-year lease is up is no big deal.....
You can pay tolls with your SunPass on 449 miles of roads within the state of Florida including:
Turnpike Mainline Homestead Extension (Miami-Dade) Sawgrass Expressway (Broward) Alligator Alley (Broward/Collier) Seminole Expressway (Orlando) Southern Connector Extension (Orlando) Suncoast Parkway (Tampa) Veterans Expressway (Tampa) LeeRoy Selmon Crosstown Expressway (Tampa) Polk Parkway (Lakeland) In Miami-Dade, SunPass works on the following MDX roads:
SR 112 - Airport Expressway SR 836 - Dolphin Expressway SR 874 - Don Shula Expressway SR 924 - Gratigny Parkway In the Orlando area SunPass works on E-Pass and O-Pass roads.
SunPass also works on the following bridges:
Sunshine Skyway (St. Petersburg) Pinellas Bayway (St. Petersburg) Mid-Bay Bridge (Niceville) Garcon Point Bridge (Milton) In the Fort Myers area SunPass works on all three LeeWay bridges:
ezland00 said: i saw this on the news couple days ago. They said mini sun pass is currently not working in Orlando on e-pass roads. did they just fix it?
that's a good question, I don't know. So if you are using in the Orlando area, heads up on this point.
The list is based on the traditional transponder Sun Pass (the sticker will eventually work in Orlando, but may not yet be valid)
HBSRA10 said: If you get Sunpass and have EZ Pass, are you covered for a trip from Keys to Maine? (All East Coast, trip on I-95)
Just about I guess. Then you can read Pedro's South of the Border signs for 600 miles and have a great road trip! If only gas were a $1 a gallon again....
I'm heading to Orlando in my car for a week vacation next month. Any Orlando/Florida resident who could tell me if this would save me any money, would be appreciated. I'll be drinving in from South Carolina and heading out via Destin.
Need to know if this is valid on the Orlando Expressway toll roads (417, 528, 408, etc). If so, good deal.
DrMilo
Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2008 @ 9:49a
Tolls were supposed to pay for the highway/roadways in a specified amount of years. Instead they became a big profiting business. I will pass, I would rather it wasn't something I had to stick on the windshield.
flash0777
Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2008 @ 9:58a
Few things from the PDF: - The $5 credit expires in 30 days (edit: never mind on this one. The offer expires in 30 days not the credit) - According to the PDF link above, this only works with SunPass whereas the old one works on any toll road. So the answer to the above question is it won't work on most Orlando toll roads because I think they all use EZPass instead of SunPass. - The old one beeps whereas this one doesn't when toll is deducted from your a/c. - See the PDF, it has an interesting comparison of the old one and the new minpass.
From PDF said: SunPass Mini cannot be hand-held or moved from car to car. It must be permanently mounted to the windshield or it won’t work, because the windshield acts as an antenna. Once removed, the Mini will no longer function and cannot be reattached to the windshield.
I call BS on windshield working as antenna. Not being able to switch to another card is a slight pain imo.
jdiff
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2008 @ 10:30a
Paboo said: From PDF said: SunPass Mini cannot be hand-held or moved from car to car. It must be permanently mounted to the windshield or it won’t work, because the windshield acts as an antenna. Once removed, the Mini will no longer function and cannot be reattached to the windshield.
I call BS on windshield working as antenna. Not being able to switch to another card is a slight pain imo.
Since it's effectively free, you can just get one for each car. I think the big deal here is to eliminate theft. You'd probably bend it so much removing it that it won't work, kinda like bending those anti-theft stickers disbles them.
IMO the dealbreaker is not working on Orlando e-pass roads. Unless you're sure you'll never go to Orlando, it's much more convenient to have one transponder that will work all over the state.
Does this thing really work as an antenna, or does the system just read the barcode instead of using radio waves?
Just to confirm - it is currently no good in Central Florida. WESH-TV did a story on these last week when they went on sale; they will eventually but not at this time.
Actually when these went into use in 1992 (and for many years) in the Orlando area, they were free, you only needed to use a credit card or prefund your account. I never could understand why everyone didn't get one at that time. Later when the various systems (E-Pass, Sun Pass, etc.) connected, the Expressway Authority started charging because people from other parts of the states were just getting the free ones up here instead of paying $25.
The E-Pass can also be used at MCO parking garage and some private parking facilities around town.
Not all of the old ones beep, mine does not, nor does it have the indicator lights that the new ones have.
I agree that the "anti-theft" feature is just a red herring to keep people from buying one and switching them in cars or loaning to guests. I can't believe there was every much of a theft problem with these. It takes a couple minutes on the phone to have the transponder rendered useless, it's not like they can be cloned like a stolen cell phone.
Personally, I like not sticking anything on my windshield, I keep the current one in the center console and it works fine; I know many people who just hold them up when they go through a booth.
Paboo said: From PDF said: SunPass Mini cannot be hand-held or moved from car to car. It must be permanently mounted to the windshield or it won’t work, because the windshield acts as an antenna. Once removed, the Mini will no longer function and cannot be reattached to the windshield.
I call BS on windshield working as antenna. Not being able to switch to another card is a slight pain imo.
It CAN be moved, someone just needs to figure out how system operates and hack it and post youtube video. it may be sunpass blowing smoke up consumers or it may communicate with gps or something. it can be done, justsomeone smart enough to figure it out.
DrMilo said: Tolls were supposed to pay for the highway/roadways in a specified amount of years. Instead they became a big profiting business. I will pass, I would rather it wasn't something I had to stick on the windshield.
We also pay no state income tax. I think it evens out a little.
jaimelobo said: Actually when these went into use in 1992 (and for many years) in the Orlando area, they were free, you only needed to use a credit card or prefund your account. I never could understand why everyone didn't get one at that time.Thanks for rubbing it in.
IS300T
New Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2008 @ 11:38a
does this also give the discounted rate ? Like .75 instead of a dollar?
I have my "big bulky" transponder positioned on my windshield so from where I'm sitting in the drivers seat, it is directly behind the rear view mirror (so I never even notice it). Just an FYI if anyone has one that gets in their way
I just got mine a year ago I'm a bit mad about this new sticker thing, but oh well... it's only $25....
dpeer01
Addicted Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2008 @ 12:41p
Thanks, Mr. C - you are alwas anticipating the needs of the masses and delivering the deals just-in-time! Does Fatwallet pay you a salary?
dpeer01 said: Thanks, Mr. C - you are alwas anticipating the needs of the masses and delivering the deals just-in-time! Does Fatwallet pay you a salary?
And of course, the rfid sticker does not beep, so make sure you're paid up, or you'll get penalized. I drive from the space coast to orlando a couple of times a month and even the 25.00 transponder is well worth it from a time perspective alone.
Don't forget the balance on this sumpass has to be a minimum of $10.00 as well - which means that the state has your money - $10 PER PERSON!!! with a sunpass. This amount to a LOT of money that they are keeping.
Correct me or flame me if I am wrong, this is not good for visitors to Disneyworld and who rent cars? It has to be adhered to the window per the PDF. I am trying to get a Sunpass but cannot get around the $25 cost. Is the $25 considered a deposit and is refundable?
dpeer01
Addicted Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2008 @ 1:49p
You can do an "autofill" where is will reload based on some min level you specify.
FrugalFreak said: Paboo said: From PDF said: SunPass Mini cannot be hand-held or moved from car to car. It must be permanently mounted to the windshield or it won’t work, because the windshield acts as an antenna. Once removed, the Mini will no longer function and cannot be reattached to the windshield.
I call BS on windshield working as antenna. Not being able to switch to another card is a slight pain imo.
It CAN be moved, someone just needs to figure out how system operates and hack it and post youtube video. it may be sunpass blowing smoke up consumers or it may communicate with gps or something. it can be done, justsomeone smart enough to figure it out.
The Sunpass looks to be an active RFID tag. Active tags have their own power supply, and can send a signal to the RFID tag reader which is embedded in the toll. The efficacy of the read is better than that of your passive RFID tag... like the Sunpass mini. They tell you to place these on the windshield because they need to have be powered by the reader as your speeding through the toll to register the transaction. You won't get enough power to get an accurate read on a passive tag like this if you have it too far away from the reader.
About cloning the tag... You can get a reader of your own, a NIX server, and something like BEA's EDGE server to connect it to. Read your device, grab the transponder codes (if they are not encrypted), write another tag with the same data, give it to someone else, and let them drive through the tolls charging their fees to your account.
Paboo said: From PDF said: SunPass Mini cannot be hand-held or moved from car to car. It must be permanently mounted to the windshield or it won’t work, because the windshield acts as an antenna. Once removed, the Mini will no longer function and cannot be reattached to the windshield.
I call BS on windshield working as antenna. Not being able to switch to another card is a slight pain imo.
It's only $5, why bother taking it down and use it in other cars. i would buy one for every car
jaideemak
Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2008 @ 2:26p
I'd like to sell our two $25 transponders back to Sunpass. Grrr....
MISTERCHEAP said: Attention Florida Sunpass Users and people who never got one because it was too expensive...
The mini sticker is smaller than a Credit Card and as thin as anything you would put on your windshield. (pictured attached below)
The older big ass box you had to carry around was expensive so many people never bought it. Keep in mind you do save 25% on tolls with a sunpass. $1.00 tolls become $.75 cents!
BEFORE The Sticker deal:
$24.99 for the unit $25 minimum account balance to start ----------- $50 total out of pocket to get a New sunpass and Account.
NOW:
$4.99 for the sticker $10 Minimum balance $-5 credit towards balance on purchase of sticker --------------------------------- $10 for a brand new sunpass account!
**Existing customers with accounts also are eligble for the $5 credit
New SunPass Mini Sticker transponder now available at Publix, Navarro and Sedano's. Direct Link to more info: Program Details for the PDF. and the official sunpass website: Sunpass.com
P.S another small benefit it only works once you put it on, you cant remove it and put it on another car, so you cant get yours stolen ( sunpass has been stolen by Valets before) So its also anti-theft, and it comes to being free with the $5 credit so getting a new one when your 3-year lease is up is no big deal.....
thx kromix/sd
Thanks for giving credit and not swiping the info *high five*
I just bought one for my car, I am not a regular toll user, but effectively it was free..
The little sticker is truly about the size of a credit card, but in the middle it has a lump.
I registered it, and then tried to adjust the auto-refill, and it doesn't work, it will only allow minimums of $25, and replenishments of $25.... So, for now, you'll have to call them to replenish because the paperwork says you can load anything you want, when your balance reaches a "low balance of $5".
I called and asked how I know if it actually works, because essentially you will be running the toll, and the red light will stay on, and they told me that there is no way to tell, except for me to log on to the website and check my toll charges..... uh, OK....thanks alot...
This annoys my wife, but I will drive MILES out of the way to avoid tolls. If there is an alternative way to get there, I'll do it.
I don't want to support the concept of charging us to drive on roads, no matter how 'painless' they make it. The problem is that governments get addicted to revenue sources easily. Next thing you know, you'll be forced to pay these tolls all over the place.
IStillPickUpPennies said: This annoys my wife, but I will drive MILES out of the way to avoid tolls. If there is an alternative way to get there, I'll do it.
I don't want to support the concept of charging us to drive on roads, no matter how 'painless' they make it. The problem is that governments get addicted to revenue sources easily. Next thing you know, you'll be forced to pay these tolls all over the place.So you would rather spend extra money on gas than pay the tolls?
BTW, all that extra gas means more taxes for the state also
joelfreak
Ancient Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2008 @ 6:30p
Now why wouldn't they sell these online for those who travel to Fla?!
IStillPickUpPennies said: I don't want to support the concept of charging us to drive on roads, no matter how 'painless' they make it. The problem is that governments get addicted to revenue sources easily. Next thing you know, you'll be forced to pay these tolls all over the place.
And it works just like this: Budget shortfall this year? No problem. Lets just raise the tolls! Or hell, lets put more tolls in place. They'll do anything to squeeze more money out of us. Little do they realize the oil companies are already squeezing us dry.
lordofducks said: IStillPickUpPennies said: I don't want to support the concept of charging us to drive on roads, no matter how 'painless' they make it. The problem is that governments get addicted to revenue sources easily. Next thing you know, you'll be forced to pay these tolls all over the place.
And it works just like this: Budget shortfall this year? No problem. Lets just raise the tolls! Or hell, lets put more tolls in place. They'll do anything to squeeze more money out of us. Little do they realize the oil companies are already squeezing us dry.
And we can all thank Charlie Crist for that wonderful amendment 1 that is causing the budget to be short!
No state income tax, lower property tax, and let's give the insurance companies money too. The state has to pay for roads somehow. They can't rely on the federal gov -- just look at I4!!
lilandi
Happy Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2008 @ 8:07p
FW users, take note (though with the $5 credit, I guess it doesn't matter, as you can just get a new one):
Website said: SunPass Portable transponders are warranted against manufacturer's defects for two (2) years from the date of purchase. The SunPass Mini Sticker transponder has a 45 day manufacturer’s warranty for defects and malfunctions from the date of purchase.
neidermeyer
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2008 @ 8:38p
jdiff said: Paboo said: From PDF said: Does this thing really work as an antenna, or does the system just read the barcode instead of using radio waves?
This is a RFID device ,, no different than the antitheft tags on merchandise that look like those fake "cell phone antenna boosters".. the windshield cannot be an antenna... however the device will have to be clear of metallic obstructions ,, yeah they're lying on their description to avoid having to explain too much,, you could always stick it to a plastic card and then tape that in place .. that would make it portable... Frankly I'm surprised that there isn't massive fraud in this system .. it'd be simple to observe broadcast ESN's at the interrogation point (toll) and clone those ESN's to a duplicate unit.
They don't mention it but this won't work if you have metallized tint on your windshield (or the unit will have to be mounted below the tint)... also some cars like the Ford Taurus used to have windshield heater/de-ice as an option ... this was a transparent metallic film sandwiched along with the plastic in the windshield and electrically heated like the strips in the rear window...
IStillPickUpPennies said: This annoys my wife, but I will drive MILES out of the way to avoid tolls. If there is an alternative way to get there, I'll do it.
I don't want to support the concept of charging us to drive on roads, no matter how 'painless' they make it. The problem is that governments get addicted to revenue sources easily. Next thing you know, you'll be forced to pay these tolls all over the place.
They are looking at introducing this concept in the UK - on all roads.
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