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If I am going to install Vista on a machine, it would have to be the Ultimate version as it has all the features from all the variations of Vista. As to why install it? My wife is beginning to whine for it now that she has used it on my MIL's machine. Me, I think it's slow as watching paint dry, but it's her PC and not mine...
fsiphoto said: Username372 said: Why would one need Vista Ultimate?
To log onto a domain. Other less compelling reasons here
Thanks for the link. I think for 99% of the users on earth, Vista Ultimate is not needed except for bragging rights esp. with all the whining about Vista to begin with. For more PC minded network engineer types - I think it may be of some use in their toolbox.
Apparently Vista is only suitable for the highly educated.
Meadowlands
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 20, 2008 @ 10:40a
I had Vista Ultimate and had many issues in general. As an overclocker, I had a hard time having vista run stable on my quad core system. I downgraded to xp and have not had one single problem and I am oc'd to 3.2 on my Q6600.
Wineaux said: If I am going to install Vista on a machine, it would have to be the Ultimate version as it has all the features from all the variations of Vista. As to why install it? My wife is beginning to whine for it now that she has used it on my MIL's machine. Me, I think it's slow as watching paint dry, but it's her PC and not mine...
well if you have a 1980's pc then maybe...
on anything modern with 2 gigs of ram... sorry XP, just cannot do what vista can.
SirZ
Addicted Member
posted: Aug. 20, 2008 @ 10:45a
michal1980 said: Wineaux said: If I am going to install Vista on a machine, it would have to be the Ultimate version as it has all the features from all the variations of Vista. As to why install it? My wife is beginning to whine for it now that she has used it on my MIL's machine. Me, I think it's slow as watching paint dry, but it's her PC and not mine...
well if you have a 1980's pc then maybe...
on anything modern with 2 gigs of ram... sorry XP, just cannot do what vista can.
SirZ said: michal1980 said: Wineaux said: If I am going to install Vista on a machine, it would have to be the Ultimate version as it has all the features from all the variations of Vista. As to why install it? My wife is beginning to whine for it now that she has used it on my MIL's machine. Me, I think it's slow as watching paint dry, but it's her PC and not mine...
well if you have a 1980's pc then maybe...
on anything modern with 2 gigs of ram... sorry XP, just cannot do what vista can.
What would that be? "Chew up all your resources?"
Ahh a brilliant reponse. Do you even know what vista does?
Lets see, xp starts... and you have all this free ram... just sitting there, doing a whole lot of nothing.
Vista starts... user normal starts IE, Firefox, outlook, word, and excel, lets preload all those programs so they start instantly.
Stupid vista user... hey all my memory is being used, vista sucks.
Username372 said: fsiphoto said: Username372 said: Why would one need Vista Ultimate?
To log onto a domain. Other less compelling reasons here
Thanks for the link. I think for 99% of the users on earth, Vista Ultimate is not needed except for bragging rights esp. with all the whining about Vista to begin with. For more PC minded network engineer types - I think it may be of some use in their toolbox. But the rub is, you can get the Ultimate Version here for less than the Vista Home Premium Upgrade package. So why not get it all for less and in the end feel like you are missing out on something?
Wineaux said: Username372 said: fsiphoto said: Username372 said: Why would one need Vista Ultimate?
To log onto a domain. Other less compelling reasons here
Thanks for the link. I think for 99% of the users on earth, Vista Ultimate is not needed except for bragging rights esp. with all the whining about Vista to begin with. For more PC minded network engineer types - I think it may be of some use in their toolbox. But the rub is, you can get the Ultimate Version here for less than the Vista Home Premium Upgrade package. So why not get it all for less and in the end feel like you are missing out on something?
no doubt....for the price, why not? Now if you are comparing full retail $$'s, then sure, most people don't need ultimate
Wineaux said: Username372 said: fsiphoto said: Username372 said: Why would one need Vista Ultimate?
To log onto a domain. Other less compelling reasons here
Thanks for the link. I think for 99% of the users on earth, Vista Ultimate is not needed except for bragging rights esp. with all the whining about Vista to begin with. For more PC minded network engineer types - I think it may be of some use in their toolbox. But the rub is, you can get the Ultimate Version here for less than the Vista Home Premium Upgrade package. So why not get it all for less and in the end feel like you are missing out on something?
I don't even know what 99% of Vista or for that matter XP does in the background. Just as long as it's stable & opens up my programs.
Now I can see if you are coming from XP & wanted to get it then for sure @ that price. But most ppl get Premium on their PC/lappies already so no need to upgrade in my eyes. Not worth $65 unless you really need, use & care about all the added features, which I sure as heck dont know about! LOL!
Meadowlands said: I had Vista Ultimate and had many issues in general. As an overclocker, I had a hard time having vista run stable on my quad core system. I downgraded to xp and have not had one single problem and I am oc'd to 3.2 on my Q6600.
XP SP3 is extremely stable now!
Vista is more stressful - it randomises used RAM and has more backtround tasks and larger memory footprint - so your overclock is probably not 100% stable.
Check your systme for at least 2-3 hours using a Memtest boot CD - I just diagnosed a bad OC on a recent build which only showed up after 2 hours of mem test.
zerodeefex
Shopaholic Member
posted: Aug. 20, 2008 @ 12:34p
Meadowlands said: I had Vista Ultimate and had many issues in general. As an overclocker, I had a hard time having vista run stable on my quad core system. I downgraded to xp and have not had one single problem and I am oc'd to 3.2 on my Q6600.
XP SP3 is extremely stable now!
No problems getting my e8400 to 4.2 in Vista 32 or 64. If you couldn't get it to work with Vista, you should check to make sure your O/C is 24 hour orthos (small FFT and blend) and also memtest stable. Vista has no effect on your overclock, but it is less tolerant of instability.
Epidemic
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 20, 2008 @ 12:34p
is it still possible to install the upgrade as a 30 day trial then installing the upgrade on itself to get the full version?
FuZziELiTLpAnDA
Member
posted: Aug. 20, 2008 @ 12:38p
Meadowlands said: I had Vista Ultimate and had many issues in general. As an overclocker, I had a hard time having vista run stable on my quad core system. I downgraded to xp and have not had one single problem and I am oc'd to 3.2 on my Q6600.
XP SP3 is extremely stable now!
i have a Q6600 overclocked higher than that and it is perfectly stable on vista ultimate.
mapsbar
New Member
posted: Aug. 20, 2008 @ 12:41p
not crap this thread. I am currently using Vista Ultimate.I have 3GB memory installed on a high-end Thinkpad T61. When I try to run Virtual PC, I frequently get the warning message saying the memory is not enough! What a crap!
michal1980 said: SirZ said: michal1980 said: Wineaux said: If I am going to install Vista on a machine, it would have to be the Ultimate version as it has all the features from all the variations of Vista. As to why install it? My wife is beginning to whine for it now that she has used it on my MIL's machine. Me, I think it's slow as watching paint dry, but it's her PC and not mine...
well if you have a 1980's pc then maybe...
on anything modern with 2 gigs of ram... sorry XP, just cannot do what vista can.
What would that be? "Chew up all your resources?"
Ahh a brilliant reponse. Do you even know what vista does?
Lets see, xp starts... and you have all this free ram... just sitting there, doing a whole lot of nothing.
Vista starts... user normal starts IE, Firefox, outlook, word, and excel, lets preload all those programs so they start instantly.
Stupid vista user... hey all my memory is being used, vista sucks.
Yes, because as an advanced user who runs specialized applications that are memory intensive, I love it when most of my ram is occupied with preloaded applications that I rarely or never use.
ya why would i want my os to preload all my programs. Hell, I have a dual boot with vista ultimate and xp sp3. XP opens FF, word, excel, and most of my apps noticably quicker.
Whats next, load the entire contents of your hard drive at boot?
Vista is a OS, neither good nor bad. Its a matter of choice. For most people, UAC is a decent feature. For me, its just annoying. I build, sell and fix computers on the side and i still cringe when i have a vista machine to look at. All of my customers still prefer xp and are going to wait until either some of their software drops xp support, or ms drops xp support
I don't understand all the hate for Vista. With even low budget modern hardware, Vista runs great. I have it on all my personal machines, desktops @ 4GB RAM and laptops @ 2GB. Yeah, it sucks on a 5yr old PC, but if you have something that crusty, stick to XP. Kind of like when XP came out, it felt bloated and slow on those P-133's that could run Win98 nicely. I have an old E4300 oc'd to 3.0GHz and have had zero stability problems whatsoever.
Vista has a really great feature that people seldom mention... Shadow Copy. If you accidentally overwrite, change, or delete a file, just right-click on a folder or file and select "Previous versions". You will then be presented with an opportunity to restore back to a previous version. Awesome feature, it's saved my butt many times. I still use XP SP3 at work and often forget I don't have the luxury to restore previous versions. Not having that feature has made me frustrated with XP on many occasions. It's a feature I now can't live without. Given the opportunity, I would love to upgrade my work machine to Vista.
XYNZ said: michal1980 said: SirZ said: michal1980 said: Wineaux said: If I am going to install Vista on a machine, it would have to be the Ultimate version as it has all the features from all the variations of Vista. As to why install it? My wife is beginning to whine for it now that she has used it on my MIL's machine. Me, I think it's slow as watching paint dry, but it's her PC and not mine...
well if you have a 1980's pc then maybe...
on anything modern with 2 gigs of ram... sorry XP, just cannot do what vista can.
What would that be? "Chew up all your resources?"
Ahh a brilliant reponse. Do you even know what vista does?
Lets see, xp starts... and you have all this free ram... just sitting there, doing a whole lot of nothing.
Vista starts... user normal starts IE, Firefox, outlook, word, and excel, lets preload all those programs so they start instantly.
Stupid vista user... hey all my memory is being used, vista sucks.
Yes, because as an advanced user who runs specialized applications that are memory intensive, I love it when most of my ram is occupied with preloaded applications that I rarely or never use.
and your not that advanced then. I'm sorry but you are just ignorant when it comes to knowing how vista works.
If you were so advanced, you know that vista 'learns' what applications you use on a daily basis, and then preloades them.
In fact it takes a few days for it to learn the behavior, and to start opmtimizing it self to your usage.
And if it pre-loads something, and needs more ram, geuss what? it just dumps it out of ram, No harm done.
The only people that see it as a problem, are those that like to use task manager to see their ram usage at 98% free.
Its like buying a zr1, but never taking it above 65mph. Whats the point?
TheSilentMajority
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 20, 2008 @ 2:54p
eibgrad said: Apparently Vista is only suitable for the highly educated.
michal1980 said: XYNZ said: michal1980 said: SirZ said: michal1980 said: Wineaux said: If I am going to install Vista on a machine, it would have to be the Ultimate version as it has all the features from all the variations of Vista. As to why install it? My wife is beginning to whine for it now that she has used it on my MIL's machine. Me, I think it's slow as watching paint dry, but it's her PC and not mine...
well if you have a 1980's pc then maybe...
on anything modern with 2 gigs of ram... sorry XP, just cannot do what vista can.
What would that be? "Chew up all your resources?"
Ahh a brilliant reponse. Do you even know what vista does?
Lets see, xp starts... and you have all this free ram... just sitting there, doing a whole lot of nothing.
Vista starts... user normal starts IE, Firefox, outlook, word, and excel, lets preload all those programs so they start instantly.
Stupid vista user... hey all my memory is being used, vista sucks.
Yes, because as an advanced user who runs specialized applications that are memory intensive, I love it when most of my ram is occupied with preloaded applications that I rarely or never use.
and your not that advanced then. I'm sorry but you are just ignorant when it comes to knowing how vista works.
If you were so advanced, you know that vista 'learns' what applications you use on a daily basis, and then preloades them.
In fact it takes a few days for it to learn the behavior, and to start opmtimizing it self to your usage.
And if it pre-loads something, and needs more ram, geuss what? it just dumps it out of ram, No harm done.
The only people that see it as a problem, are those that like to use task manager to see their ram usage at 98% free.
Its like buying a zr1, but never taking it above 65mph. Whats the point?
So, when I play a game, does it preload that whole game??
It's nice IF you're the ONLY person using the computer..but you throw in another person (assuming you use same acct) then it throws your argument out the window. Yes, it's a nice feature...but many games take mass resources...I wouldn't want to have to release all those apps from memory in order for the game to play right.
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