cnIsfg said:Taco said:farmacieboi said:Sales guy told me this was last year model that came out in July of 2007. But it is 1080 p, 120 hz, 3 hdmi like u said

Specs say it is 120 Hz CONVERSION, not true 120 Hz. "120Hz frame-rate conversion didn't seem to do much in our tests of the LC-52D92U. Unlike that model, the sets in this series lack a DVI input, making do with a VGA-style RGB input."

ALL 120 Hz LCDs use frame rate conversions. There is no such thing as a true naive 120hz HD broadcast or HD generated signal for ANY consumer electronic device. Even the most expensive commerical HD equipment cannot output true 120Hz (No 24fps is NOT 120Hz) For most, unless you have commercial projection equipemnt ranging in the 6-7 digit range 120Hz is nothing but a marketing gimmick.

120hz sets do not all 'convert' things. they all use their own technology. The concept of the 120hz itself is supposedly just to eliminate blur. Most companies take an extra step instead of just duplicating existing frames and refreshing more often... and actually use hardware to interpolate whole new frames to stick between existing ones. Examples are Sony Motionflow and Samsung AMP.

Sharp on the other hand in most of their sets just used the 'blanking' method to reduce blurring in motion but didn't add an engine to inteprolate frames. The blanking method basically involves inserting an entirely black frame in between existing frames. This basically 'resets' the pixels between each frame being displayed which gets rid of any ghosting/blurring more effectively than just duplicating frames and refreshing more often like Samsung and Sony did.

The downside of using the effective blanking method is that the overall picture appears darker because half the frames wind up being dark which is why most manufacturers shy away from it. After all , salespeople know that bright TVs sell better.

Sony's Motionflow and Samsung's AMP processing are their attempt to overcome not being able to do what blanking does inherently, but in reality while they make things look smoother and less blurry, they are making up fake frames which actually gives you an artificial picture.

Still marked at 2398.99 in Lufkin Texas (mall)

did anyone get one in NJ? i went to livingston mall with just the sku and the guy said its OOS in store and everywhere else. asked him to show other clearance tv's and they were all regular sale prices....lolz

lzpoof said:cnIsfg said:Taco said:farmacieboi said:Sales guy told me this was last year model that came out in July of 2007. But it is 1080 p, 120 hz, 3 hdmi like u said

Specs say it is 120 Hz CONVERSION, not true 120 Hz. "120Hz frame-rate conversion didn't seem to do much in our tests of the LC-52D92U. Unlike that model, the sets in this series lack a DVI input, making do with a VGA-style RGB input."

ALL 120 Hz LCDs use frame rate conversions. There is no such thing as a true naive 120hz HD broadcast or HD generated signal for ANY consumer electronic device. Even the most expensive commerical HD equipment cannot output true 120Hz (No 24fps is NOT 120Hz) For most, unless you have commercial projection equipemnt ranging in the 6-7 digit range 120Hz is nothing but a marketing gimmick.

120hz sets do not all 'convert' things. they all use their own technology. The concept of the 120hz itself is supposedly just to eliminate blur. Most companies take an extra step instead of just duplicating existing frames and refreshing more often... and actually use hardware to interpolate whole new frames to stick between existing ones. Examples are Sony Motionflow and Samsung AMP.

Sharp on the other hand in most of their sets just used the 'blanking' method to reduce blurring in motion but didn't add an engine to inteprolate frames. The blanking method basically involves inserting an entirely black frame in between existing frames. This basically 'resets' the pixels between each frame being displayed which gets rid of any ghosting/blurring more effectively than just duplicating frames and refreshing more often like Samsung and Sony did.

The downside of using the effective blanking method is that the overall picture appears darker because half the frames wind up being dark which is why most manufacturers shy away from it. After all , salespeople know that bright TVs sell better.

Sony's Motionflow and Samsung's AMP processing are their attempt to overcome not being able to do what blanking does inherently, but in reality while they make things look smoother and less blurry, they are making up fake frames which actually gives you an artificial picture.

Good post! Do you know how Phillips 120hz work? or how I can find out?

$1700 for floor model nashville

priced 2K+ in Orlando, FL

Stop by the local Sears in Miami, FL.
They don't have that tv on clearance.
But they have a Hitachi 47" 1080p LCD (Model L47S601) on clearance for 1499.99.
and also they have the same model in boxes for $1649.97. (cut 950 off regular)
I ask the rep to match the similar cut to the clearance one. He said the lowest possible is $1050. So with another $100 down will give $950 for the floor model.
Anyone think it's a hot deal? The rep strongly recommend the new box and said the clearance one is on for 1 year already.
Any idea about the life time of this model?

It is not only a deal but it is truly a steal IMO. I doubt there will be any left at that awesome price.

well that explains it.

megamands said:The OPs was a floor display model. The receipt ends in 991 which means exactly that. I work there.
I work today so I'll check my So Cal store and see what are display is going for, not sure if we have it though.

farmacieboi said:I don't know if this is a great deal...
You do not even know if it is a hot deal? Shame on you!

Nevertheless, green for you anyway.