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AMD Athlon X2 BE-2400 Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Dual-Core Processor - OEM
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how would this compare to an athlon xp 3400+? I have been out of the hardware loop for a while..

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dealwagon said:how would this compare to an athlon xp 3400+? I have been out of the hardware loop for a while..Discussed somewhat already in this thread.

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This can go lower - previously as low as $25 and FS. Don't give in - wait for it!

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FreeFlyer said:This can go lower - previously as low as $25 and FS. Don't give in - wait for it!

If you wait a few years, people will offer them to you for free

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Arghhhh I need to upgrade my 939 socket motherboard!

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FreeFlyer said:This can go lower - previously as low as $25 and FS. Don't give in - wait for it!

They dropped in price last time (a few days later), but that doesn't necessarily mean that they'll drop in price again.

This is a good chip and $32 is a really good price. If you need a chip, I wouldn't recommend waiting. Waiting could translate into $7 less, but I think the chances are high that it will translate into $8 more.

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enter8 said:FreeFlyer said:This can go lower - previously as low as $25 and FS. Don't give in - wait for it!

They dropped in price last time (a few days later), but that doesn't necessarily mean that they'll drop in price again.

This is a good chip and $32 is a really good price. If you need a chip, I wouldn't recommend waiting. Waiting could translate into $7 less, but I think the chances are high that it will translate into $8 more.

Tempting. I have a 1.9ghz Brisbane in my fileserver now. I'm tempted to replace it with this. Of course, why would I need to soup up a fileserver so much!? Eh, well I may end up using this as a VM box as well... we'll see. The 1.9ghz is plenty so far. Of course, this chip should run cooler and consume less power too. Decisions decisions...

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What's a reliable cheap AM2 mobo that could overclock this a little?

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TDP 45W means the whole class of chips does not exceed 45W. That's why all chips in this line are TDP 45W. If this chip actually consumed 45W, I wouldn't put the word "only" before it. Intel's 45nm E7200 is TDP 65W but consumes less power than the BE-2400.

The BE-2400 is simply an X2 4400+ tested to run at slightly lower voltage (-0.1v typical). It's not as big of a difference as people would like to imagine from looking at the TDP 45W vs. 65W. It is only ~1W difference at idle (NO difference if stock Cool 'N Quiet is enabled) and ~5W difference at load.

I've used a few of these BE-2x00 chips, and have liked them. Their main advantage is their better probability of undervolting/overclocking. If you're running it stock, anyone else undervolting an equivalent "regular" X2 chip could easily eradicate any energy efficiency advantage the BE-2x00 had to begin with.

Message edited by: poohbie on 2008-10-08 16:07:19 CDT
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Slickone said:What's a reliable cheap AM2 mobo that could overclock this a little?

Bump for a reply...anyone?

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brotherhpj said:Slickone said:What's a reliable cheap AM2 mobo that could overclock this a little?

Bump for a reply...anyone?
Try looking here. Most any will fit the bill. It's commonly accepted that PC Chips is bottom rung, and many say the same about ECS though I've had good luck with those I've gotten through Frys bundles. The ASRock ALiveNF7G-FullHD R3.0 at $64 shipped looks like a decent choice.

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comprx said:brotherhpj said:Slickone said:What's a reliable cheap AM2 mobo that could overclock this a little?

Bump for a reply...anyone?
Try looking here. Most any will fit the bill. It's commonly accepted that PC Chips is bottom rung, and many say the same about ECS though I've had good luck with those I've gotten through Frys bundles. The ASRock ALiveNF7G-FullHD R3.0 at $64 shipped looks like a decent choice.

How about the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus listed there? ZipZoomfly has it, which would be cheaper for me since I'd pay tax at Newegg (also item is $1 less at ZZF). I was hoping to have eSata for easy backups (this would be a PC for my dad), but I guess USB would be good enough. How much more would a mobo (no ESC/PC Chips) be with eSata?

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Slickone said:How about the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus listed there? ZipZoomfly has it, which would be cheaper for me since I'd pay tax at Newegg (also item is $1 less at ZZF). I was hoping to have eSata for easy backups (this would be a PC for my dad), but I guess USB would be good enough. How much more would a mobo (no ESC/PC Chips) be with eSata?Asus is one of my favorite brands. I would research any specific model to see if there are reported issues with it and how folks like it, but otherwise I trust them.

For eSATA, you can add that to any computer with a free internal SATA slot by using one of these. ZZF will have them for about he same price. No free SATA slots? Try this.

Message edited by: comprx on 2008-10-09 16:35:47 CDT
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comprx said:Slickone said:How about the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus listed there? ZipZoomfly has it, which would be cheaper for me since I'd pay tax at Newegg (also item is $1 less at ZZF). I was hoping to have eSata for easy backups (this would be a PC for my dad), but I guess USB would be good enough. How much more would a mobo (no ESC/PC Chips) be with eSata?Asus is one of my favorite brands. I would research any specific model to see if there are reported issues with it and how folks like it, but otherwise I trust them.

For eSATA, you can add that to any computer with a free internal SATA slot by using one of these. ZZF will have them for about he same price. No free SATA slots? Try this.

That wouldn't be "eSATA" though. It'd be hooking a regular SATA controller to a SATA port that happens to be externally located. Promise has a PCI eSATA controller, but it's about $80.

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Slickone said:comprx said:Slickone said:How about the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus listed there? ZipZoomfly has it, which would be cheaper for me since I'd pay tax at Newegg (also item is $1 less at ZZF). I was hoping to have eSata for easy backups (this would be a PC for my dad), but I guess USB would be good enough. How much more would a mobo (no ESC/PC Chips) be with eSata?Asus is one of my favorite brands. I would research any specific model to see if there are reported issues with it and how folks like it, but otherwise I trust them.

For eSATA, you can add that to any computer with a free internal SATA slot by using one of these. ZZF will have them for about he same price. No free SATA slots? Try this.

That wouldn't be "eSATA" though. It'd be hooking a regular SATA controller to a SATA port that happens to be externally located. Promise has a PCI eSATA controller, but it's about $80.

1) Yes, it's eSATA. It's just a difference in the connector (eSATA designed to widthstand more insertions and removals), which that bracket has. You would only need an add-on card if you don't have any free internal SATA ports left.

2) He did link to a PCI eSATA controller for $20 at the end of his post.

Message edited by: poohbie on 2008-10-10 17:51:49 CDT
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poohbie said:Slickone said:comprx said:Slickone said:How about the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus listed there? ZipZoomfly has it, which would be cheaper for me since I'd pay tax at Newegg (also item is $1 less at ZZF). I was hoping to have eSata for easy backups (this would be a PC for my dad), but I guess USB would be good enough. How much more would a mobo (no ESC/PC Chips) be with eSata?Asus is one of my favorite brands. I would research any specific model to see if there are reported issues with it and how folks like it, but otherwise I trust them.

For eSATA, you can add that to any computer with a free internal SATA slot by using one of these. ZZF will have them for about he same price. No free SATA slots? Try this.

That wouldn't be "eSATA" though. It'd be hooking a regular SATA controller to a SATA port that happens to be externally located. Promise has a PCI eSATA controller, but it's about $80.

1) Yes, it's eSATA. It's just a difference in the connector (eSATA designed to widthstand more insertions and removals), which that bracket has. You would only need an add-on card if you don't have any free internal SATA ports left.

2) He did link to a PCI eSATA controller for $20 at the end of his post.

Thanks. I'm not trying to argue, but did you read the wikipedia page I linked? According to that, there's more to it than just the connector. Or am I reading that wrong?

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Slickone said:Thanks. I'm not trying to argue, but did you read the wikipedia page I linked? According to that, there's more to it than just the connector. Or am I reading that wrong?
Signal- and protocol-wise, there's no difference between SATA and eSATA. You should enable the ability of your controller chipset to allow hot-swapping, if you plan on using your eSATA port that way. Often, that involves enabling AHCI in the BIOS and loading appropriate drivers for the controller. Other than that issue, there's nothing that makes eSATA different than SATA.

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