SBCheapskate said:Good point Geo123. But as long as it's the same mattress that I sleep on every time I stay at a Westin....then it's worth it. I had to live in a Westin for a month for work and loved the bed. While I would love more coils as in the World Class, this is just too good of a deal.Oh, I wholeheartedly agree with this. If you like this mattress, then by all means buy it. Your back will not know whether you are sleeping on a Classic mattress or a Worldclass one, so if you can be comfortable without breaking the bank, then by all means you should do it.

BTW, I couldn't find any Simmons mattress at Macy's that was even close to this 40% off deal. Am I missing something?Take a look at this Simmons Beautyrest Classic "Adrian" Plush Mattress Set with 800 coils that Macy's is currently selling for $897 for a queen set (the foundation is a one piece foundation -- you'll pay more if you want to have 2 pieces to make it more maneuverable). This price also includes free delivery and removal of your old mattress. I've previously spoken with Macy's and Simmons and they've confirmed that this is essentially the same mattress as the W mattress with 25 fewer coils. I've also tried this mattress at Macy's and one at Nordstrom and don't see any difference (as I posted above, they are way too soft for my taste though and I feel like I don't have enough support but that's always subjective).

Now, if you have 20% Macy's gift cards, your price is $717 (plus tax) but this requires you to know how to deal with Dealpass, which is a YMMV.

geo123 said:Roy2001 said:Look at the picture posted in FAQ. Also the number of coils indicates that it belongs to world class instead of classic. No, the number of coils indicates that it belongs to the Classic line. Simmons uses the coil count in the Queen sized mattresses(here is a link to Simmons' website, which confirms this) to assign it to the Classic versus Worldclass lines. As such, a Queen W mattress has 825 coils, which puts it in the Classic line. To confirm, just take a look at this Simmons Beautyrest Classic "Adrian" Plush Mattress Set sold at Macy's -- it is a Beautyrest Classic with 800 coils.

As you can see from this link taken directly from Simmons' website, a Simmons Worldclass mattress has 980 coils in queen sized mattresses. .......

Misleading.

Take a look at these websites: Amazon Walmart and here, all point the fact that 980+ coils for king size is world class, while here indicates that a classic king has 800 coils.

I am not arguing the W Hotel brand mattress has super quality. But Simmons classify their mattress based on number of coils, not the materials. 980 coils for king size means world class while it is highly possible that the material falls in classic level. 800 coils is for Classic.

BTW, I did a little more research, and found almost ALL classic mattress advertised to have 800 coils, no matter the size!

GTFan said:This W Hotel plush queen set is $720 w/no tax, shipped, in most places geo. A lot cheaper than Macy's $897+tax and a slightly better bed if you just go by coil count (which I don't).If you use 20% off Macy's cards, you get the same price (+/- a few dollars) since Macy's price comes out to $716 then. That's an obvious YMMV though since it requires you to know how to get these gift cards from Dealpass or other companies. Free delivery and haul away is the same through either place. As for 25 extra coils, there's no possible way to feel the difference either way.

If you end up absolutely hating the mattress (some people in these W mattress threads have posted that the mattress wasn't for them and they had to get rid of it at a substantial loss), Macy's will give you a cash refund minus a $70 pickup fee and a 10% restocking fee. On the other hand, all sales are final through the W store.

In any event, I am not trying to threadcrap and am certainly in no way implying that this is a bad mattress or is a bad deal. I just want to make sure that people realize that in purely financial terms, this is a decent but not an amazing deal and can be fairly easily matched by other retailers. Hence, if you like this mattress, then by all means buy it. On the other hand, if you are looking for slightly different characteristics in a mattress, you can fairly easily get them through other retailers at a price that's just as competitive without any haggling (you can't haggle at Macy's or at Mattress Firm, for instance). For instance, while the W Hotels only offer two comfort levels, you can get way more comfort levels of this mattress through other retailers. For instance, Macy's sells the Cushion Firm and the Firm versions of the same exact mattress for the same $897 price (minus the 20% off, if you can get it through gift cards). By the way, I do not work for Macy's, am in no way affiliated with them and am not endorsing Macy's in any way. I am just referencing Macy's inventory here because it is very conveniently available online (and because their 20% off gift cards are relatively easy to obtain).

Roy2001 said:My king plush mattress arrived yesterday. The tag mentions "world class".

The foam is thick and mattress is VERY firm. I tend to think it is closer to firm if not extra firm. But it is very comfortable. One week delivery is fast, $852 shipped for Beautyrest World Class King Plush is superb deal IMO. The lowest priced World Class King I can find is from Junkmart.com for $1000 and shipping/tax are extra.I thought I would quote this post as a cautionary example of the way that some people here seem to have gotten confused by the Heavenly/W-bed marketing, which has led them to believe that they are getting more mattress for their money with the Heavenly/W-bed. The person whose post I am quoting here (I am not attacking him in any way, by the way -- it certainly is easy to get confused by the marketing) posted about comparing prices of the W bed to the prices charged for the much higher end Simmons beds (which he did not realize were much higher end), which led him to incorrectly conclude that he was getting an exceptional financial deal on the W bed.

In reality, as I showed in the post above, what allows Simmons to put the "Worldclass" label on the W mattress is the fact that they put 825 coils in a queen whereas their traditional Classic line has 800 coils (the Worldclass line has 980 coils in a queen). So, the extra 25 coils take this mattress outside of the definition of "Classic" and the next category up is "Worldclass," which is where Simmons puts it even though the coil count is nowhere near the coil count found in other Worldclass mattresses and it does not have the foam encasement found in Simmons' Worldclass mattresses.

Hence, it is somewhat of a marketing trick on Simmons' part, which causes a lot of people to conclude that they are getting more mattress for the money. As you can also see from the Macy's link above, Macy's also sells essentially the same mattress for about the same price as the W price after the discount. You can also get additional discounts at Macy's through things like 20% off gift cards but that requires you to know how to use Dealpass, which is YMMV. Using Macy's and other retailers also gives you much faster delivery (1-3 days at Macy's/Mattress Firm and the like versus week-long delays at the W store), allow you to return the mattress if it's not to your liking after paying a restocking fee (the W store accepts no returns/exchanges), can allow for much easier exchanges under the warranty (the retailer at which you purchased your mattress administers the warranty) and can give you access to additional comfort levels of this mattress at the same price (the W store only has 2 comfort levels).

Code is expired. Any other ones available?

apfaeffli said:Are there any coupon codes or deals out there now for the Heavenly Bed? Looking to buy a King......Please Help!!!!Depending on the comfort level you are looking for, you can easily find MUCH better deals out there than the W bed with 40% off. For instance, take a look at this Simmons Worldclass thread -- it is a much higher end mattress at a MUCH lower price than the W bed would be after the discount.

geo123 said:apfaeffli said:Are there any coupon codes or deals out there now for the Heavenly Bed? Looking to buy a King......Please Help!!!!Depending on the comfort level you are looking for, you can easily find MUCH better deals out there than the W bed with 40% off. For instance, take a look at this Simmons Worldclass thread -- it is a much higher end mattress at a MUCH lower price than the W bed would be after the discount.

geo - I think that this may be a higher end mattress, but I don't see how this is a MUCH lower price than the W bed would be after discount. I bought the plush top W bed in a king size for $852 delivered. This king is well over $1000. Heck, the queen is also over $1000. Could you explain? Thanks.

Gotcha....not lower than the W price, just lower based on the model level.

does anyone know of the promo code for the Heavenly Bed? I would love to get 40% off

geo123 said:As I mentioned above, plenty of excellent deals and a much better selection can be found at local mattress retailers. For the past several years we owned a top of the line Stearns & Foster mattress set (Sealy owns Stearns & Foster, which is a luxury mattress manufacturer), which we've had to replace twice in the last 5 years due to body indentations exceeding 1.5" (which is what's required by both Sealy and Simmons to authorize a warranty exchange). Finally, we got pretty tired of it and decided to purchase a new mattress. We've tried everything from Sealy Posturepedic, the Hotel Collection (a Stearns & Foster mattress), Serta to the ultra expensive latex beds, the DUX Bed for $6K, Kluft mattresses for $5-$7K and Shifman mattresses for $4K-$5K. Out of all these mattresses for us the best combination of comfort and value turned out a Simmons WorldClass cushion firm mattress with 3" memory foam encasement, which we just purchased.

We ended up purchasing this Simmons WorldClass Angelique Cushion Firm king mattress SET at Macy's with 1260 coils and a 360 degree foam encasement -- our price for a brand new mattress set (not clearance, which typically carries no warranty) with free delivery and carryout ended up being $1,211 plus tax and Macy's offers a comfort trial and excellent warranty support.

Geo123, the Simmons Worldclass in that link you provided has $3,000 price tags. Did the price more than double since you purchased yours or is this a different mattress? Unless you used one hell of a coupon! =)