Not to thread crap, but here is my opinion. This is a good deal, however, it is a 60Hz. If you want another 2 weeks, they MAY have the friends and family deal at Sharp. At that time, you MAY be able to purchase the 120Hz Sharp TV. Even then, the Samsung LN46A650 and up will most likely be around $1100.
I have been following the TV deals for a long time and I am in the market myself. However, I am holding off as much as possible for a really hard to pass up deal. Plus I have my eye on a 120Hz TV.
Gammah
sunman42000
Member
posted: Nov. 9, 2008 @ 1:54p
^where could you get the friends and family discount? where would that be at?
jerry6d
Member
posted: Nov. 9, 2008 @ 1:57p
I got this TV last year during BF from CC. Love this TV. I think the banding issues are on older aquos models.
Does 120Hz make a difference ? In other words, is the difference noticeable ? Thanks
gammah said: Not to thread crap, but here is my opinion. This is a good deal, however, it is a 60Hz. If you want another 2 weeks, they MAY have the friends and family deal at Sharp. At that time, you MAY be able to purchase the 120Hz Sharp TV. Even then, the Samsung LN46A650 and up will most likely be around $1100.
I have been following the TV deals for a long time and I am in the market myself. However, I am holding off as much as possible for a really hard to pass up deal. Plus I have my eye on a 120Hz TV.
Gammah
winston9t4
Member
posted: Nov. 9, 2008 @ 3:15p
I'm also in the market, and the deals keep getting better and better! If you need one now, I think this is a great deal, but I'm with you on waiting it out a bit.
These are still big ticket items, and with the economy in it's current shape, I bet they will have more trouble moving these in the weeks/months to come.
gammah said: Not to thread crap, but here is my opinion. This is a good deal, however, it is a 60Hz. If you want another 2 weeks, they MAY have the friends and family deal at Sharp. At that time, you MAY be able to purchase the 120Hz Sharp TV. Even then, the Samsung LN46A650 and up will most likely be around $1100.
I have been following the TV deals for a long time and I am in the market myself. However, I am holding off as much as possible for a really hard to pass up deal. Plus I have my eye on a 120Hz TV.
Good deal for a 46", but it looks like 46" at or around the $999 price range will be the norm, not the exception. Look at the BF deals coming up, Sony 46 for $1,100, WalMart had a samsung 46 for $798.00.
NameChanged001
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 9, 2008 @ 4:16p
on black friday this tv will be down in the low 800's.
gammah
Shopaholic Member
posted: Nov. 9, 2008 @ 7:34p
I am just saying there may be a code out there and Sharp may even go public to make sales. You never know. Anyways you should be able to find this TV for less in the coming weeks.
Gammah
sunman42000 said: ^where could you get the friends and family discount? where would that be at?
gammah
Shopaholic Member
posted: Nov. 9, 2008 @ 7:38p
You betcha the 120Hz makes a difference. I mean you are doubling the 60Hz rate.
The Panasonic Plasma's are up to 480Hz (Plasma vs LCD.. different technologies, but I am just saying). With fast moving objects, 120Hz is much better than 60Hz.
Go check out a 60Hz TV vs. a 120Hz TV at Sears or Best Buy. You'll see how much better the 120Hz TV is.
Gammah
hongheo76 said: Does 120Hz make a difference ? In other words, is the difference noticeable ? Thanks
dawgsfan
New Member
posted: Nov. 9, 2008 @ 9:43p
Well... if you don't notice the 120hz difference then it may not matter to you. This is a great set - got it last black friday at Sears (got them to price match to CC) so it was ~$1180 out the door. I don't remember if this set ever had the banding issues like the older sharp aquos sets - see the avsforum threads. FYI my set did not have a banding problem, and I REALLY tried to find it b/c I was paranoid. I saw this exact set in Costco today for $1199 for those that care.
Just remember that the 200hz sets will be hitting the market soon. Improvements are still coming ridiculously fast and furious, so if you're like me, you're pretty much always going to be lusting after something better within a year or two.
bhyde01 said: TheDawn said: I have this from last years Black Friday... This is a great TV...
How much was it last year on BF?
I also got this myself last year. Some people got it for around $1000 at the Sears Friends and Family sale last year, they did the Circuit City price match of $1300, they were running a $$150 or 200 rebate at the time for using a Sears credit card and they were also offering an extra 5% off.
Anyway, this one doesn't seem to have as much problem with banding as previous models although some people still report it. No problem with mine or I just don't see it like other people.
subtlehands
New Member
posted: Nov. 10, 2008 @ 2:37a
have been using it for >1 year and it works great.
rbraden said: Just remember that the 200hz sets will be hitting the market soon. Improvements are still coming ridiculously fast and furious, so if you're like me, you're pretty much always going to be lusting after something better within a year or two.
How will 200hz have any improvement over 120hz when the media doesn't come close to exceeding 60hz?
I have the 52" of this model. After using it more than a year w/ my xbox 360, I can clearly tell you the quality is A+. Only thing I didn't like is the remote..it was very flimsy and one drop to a wooden floor will bust out the batteries. Make sure you caliberate it from recommended settings from avforums.com. Still, as winston said it is not 120hz model but then again, I've seen the demo from Best Buy and couldn't tell any difference. At least not as drastically from 720p to 1080p comparison. Great deal! I got the 52" for $1800 on last F&F deals~ then my wife bought $1500 tv stand..... ah~~ I guess I can't find great deals on everything.
Please don't misunderstand what 60hz is vs. 120hz. The only practical application is to achieve a 1:1 frame rate with 24p cinema (120/24 = 5, no frames dropped. 60/24= 2.5, frames dropped, looks choppy). Fast moving objects have nothing to do with the refresh rate, that's the pixel response time (i.e. 2ms, 5ms, 8ms, etc). If you go to a store and compare 60hz and 120hz, and don't see a difference, it is because your source material is running at 30 or 60fps (i.e. video game, network TV). Find store that is playing something like Spiderman 3 or Transformers and compare (i know sammy's have a demo mode that does 120hz on one side, and 60hz on the other). You will notice a difference, and in my opinion, it looks unnaturally smooth and I don't like it.
sieken said: Please don't misunderstand what 60hz is vs. 120hz. The only practical application is to achieve a 1:1 frame rate with 24p cinema (120/24 = 5, no frames dropped. 60/24= 2.5, frames dropped, looks choppy). Fast moving objects have nothing to do with the refresh rate, that's the pixel response time (i.e. 2ms, 5ms, 8ms, etc). If you go to a store and compare 60hz and 120hz, and don't see a difference, it is because your source material is running at 30 or 60fps (i.e. video game, network TV). Find store that is playing something like Spiderman 3 or Transformers and compare (i know sammy's have a demo mode that does 120hz on one side, and 60hz on the other). You will notice a difference, and in my opinion, it looks unnaturally smooth and I don't like it.
The demo you see has AutoMotion Plus on. That is what they call their algorithm to interpolate frames for that smooth look. 120hz by itself does not create this "soap opera" effect. I have the LG 70 series, which has TruMotion. Although it makes film based sources look unnaturally smooth, it does help sports look unbelievably real and make TV shows look pretty good too. It is not everyone's cup of tea. But with just the 120hz on, it looks very natural.
Edit: For some reason I thought you were referring to a Samsung in your post. AutoMotion Plus is what Samsung calls it. Sony calls it MotionFlow, LG TruMotion, and Sharp FineMotion.
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