Sears is starting its black friday sale on Thanksgiving but online, only with sneak peak on Wednesday night at 9 PM. Good chance to avoid waking up early and long lines. Details to be online tomorrow but hoping that most of the BF stuff would be available.
even I am planning to shop for LCD TV but now have to wait till tomorrow for their sneakpeak..
kzoocooks
New Member
posted: Nov. 25, 2008 @ 1:45p
sunman42000 said: i need a TV - any hot deals here?
6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.
kzoocooks said: sunman42000 said: i need a TV - any hot deals here?
6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.
Panansonic TH-42PX80U is on eBay for $800 and less with free shipping. With the Mikey$oft rebate (~$200 ) your net price is $600 . This has been mentioned a few times ...
SupTech said: kzoocooks said: sunman42000 said: i need a TV - any hot deals here?
6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.
Panansonic TH-42PX80U is on eBay for $800 and less with free shipping. With the Mikey$oft rebate (~$200 ) your net price is $600 . This has been mentioned a few times ...
KnivesACE said: Hopefully I won't have to wait in-line and get up at 3 AM for my television
Thanks for the heads up OP.
Your an idiot if you do. Deals will be plentiful throughout the holiday on TVs and electronics. It's likely that even better deals will be found on Cyber Monday and into the new year. Consumers are on lockdown right about now - so I doubt you'll be seeing any frantic buyers and long lines for high ticket items. Everbody I know is having a very meager Christmas, even the seemingly wealthy ones.
kzoocooks said: sunman42000 said: i need a TV - any hot deals here?
6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.
There is zero reason to consider a 720p set, when there is a much better set for $799 free shipping on Newegg - Panasonic 1080p , Don't kid yourself - 1080p is far superior and is very noticeable in comparison (I don't understand the people that say you can't see a difference from normal viewing distances) ; prepare to be horrified when you hook up a PC at 720p and end up with a 42" equivalent of a 15" LCD monitor. Wit prices dropping like a rock, a full HD TV is the only logical choice even if it's a tad more expensive. It's worth it to be getting literally twice the pixel real estate and panel density of a 720p tv.
moreorless0
Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2008 @ 1:33a
jkinfo said: SupTech said: kzoocooks said: sunman42000 said: i need a TV - any hot deals here?
6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.
Panansonic TH-42PX80U is on eBay for $800 and less with free shipping. With the Mikey$oft rebate (~$200 ) your net price is $600 . This has been mentioned a few times ...
pdiggity said: kzoocooks said: sunman42000 said: i need a TV - any hot deals here?
6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.
There is zero reason to consider a 720p set, when there is a much better set for $799 free shipping on Newegg - Panasonic 1080p , Don't kid yourself - 1080p is far superior and is very noticeable in comparison (I don't understand the people that say you can't see a difference from normal viewing distances) ; prepare to be horrified when you hook up a PC at 720p and end up with a 42" equivalent of a 15" LCD monitor. Wit prices dropping like a rock, a full HD TV is the only logical choice even if it's a tad more expensive. It's worth it to be getting literally twice the pixel real estate and panel density of a 720p tv.
Again, unless you sit close to it (like, say, maybe as a computer monitor...duh) then you aren't going to tell the difference. It's pure physics and if you sit 10' aways you won't be able to tell the difference.
cstu11 said: pdiggity said: kzoocooks said: sunman42000 said: i need a TV - any hot deals here?
6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.
There is zero reason to consider a 720p set, when there is a much better set for $799 free shipping on Newegg - Panasonic 1080p , Don't kid yourself - 1080p is far superior and is very noticeable in comparison (I don't understand the people that say you can't see a difference from normal viewing distances) ; prepare to be horrified when you hook up a PC at 720p and end up with a 42" equivalent of a 15" LCD monitor. Wit prices dropping like a rock, a full HD TV is the only logical choice even if it's a tad more expensive. It's worth it to be getting literally twice the pixel real estate and panel density of a 720p tv.
Again, unless you sit close to it (like, say, maybe as a computer monitor...duh) then you aren't going to tell the difference. It's pure physics and if you sit 10' aways you won't be able to tell the difference.
Yet again, let me know how that 1280x720 looks when hooked to a computer vs. 1920x1080 (and that would be sitting on the couch w/ a wireless keyboard) -- ever considered playing 1080p video on your computer? 1:1 pixel mapping is going to make the difference. Talk physics all you want, but I can tell the difference and with the multi-functional use of current TVs 720p sets are worthless technology, especially with prices being very similar.
renaud
Thrifty Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2008 @ 9:46a
pdiggity said: Yet again, let me know how that 1280x720 looks when hooked to a computer vs. 1920x1080 (and that would be sitting on the couch w/ a wireless keyboard) -- ever considered playing 1080p video on your computer? 1:1 pixel mapping is going to make the difference. Talk physics all you want, but I can tell the difference and with the multi-functional use of current TVs 720p sets are worthless technology, especially with prices being very similar.
720p is far from useless. Majority of TV buyers do not use 42"+ screens as computer monitors. I have a Panasonic plasma and they are one of the best sets you can buy for the money. 1080p only benefits those with Bluray/PS3 systems that sit relatively close to their set. Cable is not broadcast in 1080p so it does not even come into play there. Scaling of a computer source is a different story, but for normal tv/movie watching there is no difference to the human eye at normal viewing distances. If you are beyond 6ft from a 42" TV, your eye can not physically see the difference from 720p to 1080p.
Everybody has opinions and this debate has been going on for a long time. But your comments go beyond fact and are just your opinion. You want 1080p to use as a computer monitor, so good for you. The majority of buyers want tv's to watch.......TV! And there are no tv broadcast greater than 720p/1080i. And even when they do start broadcasting in 1080p, the majority of human eyes will never know the difference.
Exactly. Unless you're hooking this to a PC, you'll never see the diff between it and a 1080p set at normal viewing distances. You have to get past 50" sets to start seeing it.
1080p is a marketer's dream right now, it's just the old 'bigger must be better' line.
pdiggity said: cstu11 said: pdiggity said: kzoocooks said: sunman42000 said: i need a TV - any hot deals here?
6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.
There is zero reason to consider a 720p set, when there is a much better set for $799 free shipping on Newegg - Panasonic 1080p , Don't kid yourself - 1080p is far superior and is very noticeable in comparison (I don't understand the people that say you can't see a difference from normal viewing distances) ; prepare to be horrified when you hook up a PC at 720p and end up with a 42" equivalent of a 15" LCD monitor. Wit prices dropping like a rock, a full HD TV is the only logical choice even if it's a tad more expensive. It's worth it to be getting literally twice the pixel real estate and panel density of a 720p tv.
Again, unless you sit close to it (like, say, maybe as a computer monitor...duh) then you aren't going to tell the difference. It's pure physics and if you sit 10' aways you won't be able to tell the difference.
Yet again, let me know how that 1280x720 looks when hooked to a computer vs. 1920x1080 (and that would be sitting on the couch w/ a wireless keyboard) -- ever considered playing 1080p video on your computer? 1:1 pixel mapping is going to make the difference. Talk physics all you want, but I can tell the difference and with the multi-functional use of current TVs 720p sets are worthless technology, especially with prices being very similar.
ROFL @ using a computer input for comparison!!!!!
Seriously, a far majority of people using their television sets WILL NOT be hooking up their computers to living room TVs.
GTFan said: Exactly. Unless you're hooking this to a PC, you'll never see the diff between it and a 1080p set at normal viewing distances. You have to get past 50" sets to start seeing it.
1080p is a marketer's dream right now, it's just the old 'bigger must be better' line.Agree. > 42" sets you will see a difference between 1080p vs 720p. And added to the hurt for 1080p fanboyz, most broadcast/cable stations broadcast in 720p anyways. And before anyone say their cablebox or satellite has 1080p input, those are all upconverted from 720p or de-interlaced 1080i.
FUNSEEQUER
New Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2008 @ 11:15a
Agree on the 720p vs 1080p.
The most important thing to know about resolution on HDTV's is that any TV you buy above 27" or higher you need to go with 1080p!
Some people and reviews like Plasma, some DLP, some LCD but all agree on 1080p in larger sets is well worth the extra $.
On Current broadcasts of already recorded content only, the points made are true on what high def content is actually being broadcast and that you only see the difference on HD DVD's,cable channels that carry HD, PC ect.
But DUH...where have you all been...starting FEB. 2009 thats all going to change and you will see more and more HIGH DEF on new shows and movies as everything going forward will be shot and broadcast in High Def...untill it's like when in the 60's TV went from black and white to color!!
dnaL0R
Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2008 @ 11:22a
i thought it was more like >40"... i am getting a 32" soon, but don't care for it being 1080p... i know i will not be able to tell the difference since i won't be a foot away from the screen...
pdiggity said: kzoocooks said: sunman42000 said: i need a TV - any hot deals here?
6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.
There is zero reason to consider a 720p set, when there is a much better set for $799 free shipping on Newegg - Panasonic 1080p , Don't kid yourself - 1080p is far superior and is very noticeable in comparison (I don't understand the people that say you can't see a difference from normal viewing distances) ; prepare to be horrified when you hook up a PC at 720p and end up with a 42" equivalent of a 15" LCD monitor. Wit prices dropping like a rock, a full HD TV is the only logical choice even if it's a tad more expensive. It's worth it to be getting literally twice the pixel real estate and panel density of a 720p tv.
What you have written goes beyond just being right; it is self-evident on its face. Thus, anyone with a scintilla of wisdom recognizes you are correct.
But I have a favor to ask:
Though I realize this is a discussion forum, and I realize you are merely trying to guide others less fortunate than yourself to the truth, please don't. Just remain silent and let them purchase all the 720p sets until they disappear from the market. "They" in this instance refers both to the inferior TV sets and to the unfortunates who purchase them at today's inflated prices. We need those sets, and those people, out of the market. It's the only way we can more quickly move forward to where we need to be. Let them go. Let them buy what they want and what they like. And don't feel sorry for them. They are happy at 720p. So be it.
Please remember: Sometimes ignorance is Bliss. Don't spoil their Bliss.
edscholl
Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2008 @ 11:55a
FUNSEEQUER said: The most important thing to know about resolution on HDTV's is that any TV you buy above 27" or higher you need to go with 1080p!
Some people and reviews like Plasma, some DLP, some LCD but all agree on 1080p in larger sets is well worth the extra $.
no, no you don't need to go with 1080p above 27", and not all reviews (not even close) agree that 1080p is well worth the extra $. i bought a 50" 720p plasma because from the viewing distance (10'-13') in my house, even on blu-ray, the difference is negligible. certainly not worth another $1k over the $650 i was out of pocket on.
FUNSEEQUER said: But DUH...where have you all been...starting FEB. 2009 thats all going to change and you will see more and more HIGH DEF on new shows and movies as everything going forward will be shot and broadcast in High Def...untill it's like when in the 60's TV went from black and white to color!!
starting feb '09, over the air broadcasts will be digital. not high def, but digital. digital does not imply high def, and high def does not imply 1080p. currently every high def channel is in either 720p or 1080i; some channels could theoretically start broadcasting in 1080p, but that's only over the air- some 90% of households have cable or satellite- and there's no indication any cable or satellite provider in the u.s. is even considering anything in 1080p (too much bandwidth required, so if they DID broadcast 1080p, there'd be even MORE compression of the signal resulting in MORE digital artifacts than currently occur with 1080i and 720p. maybe if codecs get much better they will start 1080p broadcasts. but they tv's will be much cheaper then).
guardian44 said: pdiggity said: kzoocooks said: sunman42000 said: i need a TV - any hot deals here?
But I have a favor to ask:
Though I realize this is a discussion forum, and I realize you are merely trying to guide others less fortunate than yourself to the truth, please don't. Just remain silent and let them purchase all the 720p sets until they disappear from the market. "They" in this instance refers both to the inferior TV sets and to the unfortunates who purchase them at today's inflated prices. We need those sets, and those people, out of the market. It's the only way we can more quickly move forward to where we need to be. Let them go. Let them buy what they want and what they like. And don't feel sorry for them. They are happy at 720p. So be it.
Please remember: Sometimes ignorance is Bliss. Don't spoil their Bliss.
wrong way to have manufacturers/retailers discontinue 720p since so long as there's demand, somebody will sell it. if no one buys, then it will disappear. although its likely to anyways as the price difference with 1080p will become negligible in the future.
neetsmalik
New Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2008 @ 2:47p
I can't seem to find the rebate you are discussing..more insight?
neetsmalik
New Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2008 @ 2:50p
i can't find this rebate...can you explain further? thx!
pdiggity said: KnivesACE said: Hopefully I won't have to wait in-line and get up at 3 AM for my television
Thanks for the heads up OP.
Your an idiot if you do. Deals will be plentiful throughout the holiday on TVs and electronics. It's likely that even better deals will be found on Cyber Monday and into the new year. Consumers are on lockdown right about now - so I doubt you'll be seeing any frantic buyers and long lines for high ticket items. Everbody I know is having a very meager Christmas, even the seemingly wealthy ones.
Dont know if ALL consumers are on lockdown
Line at my local bestbuy has already formed...............
many users browse at 800x600 still but that doesn't mean i'm part of the majority..
michiganmother
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2008 @ 9:10p
Shoot...the Sony Blu-ray is not offered at sale price in the sneak preview sale! Does anyone remember when on Thanksgiving the full online sale was to start? It's no longer mentioned on the link provided in this thread.
Price reduces to $39.99 once placed in cart. OOOH! Hubby's been wanting one of these!! Thanks for posting! Selected store p/u too. Anyone know how good these are?
yankeecouponahh said: Price reduces to $39.99 once placed in cart. OOOH! Hubby's been wanting one of these!! Thanks for posting! Selected store p/u too. Anyone know how good these are?The two reviews on Sears.com look promising... I can't find much else.
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