pdiggity said:
Yet again, let me know how that 1280x720 looks when hooked to a computer vs. 1920x1080 (and that would be sitting on the couch w/ a wireless keyboard) -- ever considered playing 1080p video on your computer? 1:1 pixel mapping is going to make the difference. Talk physics all you want, but I can tell the difference and with the multi-functional use of current TVs 720p sets are worthless technology, especially with prices being very similar.

720p is far from useless. Majority of TV buyers do not use 42"+ screens as computer monitors. I have a Panasonic plasma and they are one of the best sets you can buy for the money. 1080p only benefits those with Bluray/PS3 systems that sit relatively close to their set. Cable is not broadcast in 1080p so it does not even come into play there. Scaling of a computer source is a different story, but for normal tv/movie watching there is no difference to the human eye at normal viewing distances. If you are beyond 6ft from a 42" TV, your eye can not physically see the difference from 720p to 1080p.

Everybody has opinions and this debate has been going on for a long time. But your comments go beyond fact and are just your opinion. You want 1080p to use as a computer monitor, so good for you. The majority of buyers want tv's to watch.......TV! And there are no tv broadcast greater than 720p/1080i. And even when they do start broadcasting in 1080p, the majority of human eyes will never know the difference.

pdiggity said:cstu11 said:pdiggity said:kzoocooks said:sunman42000 said:i need a TV - any hot deals here?

6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.

There is zero reason to consider a 720p set, when there is a much better set for $799 free shipping on Newegg - Panasonic 1080p , Don't kid yourself - 1080p is far superior and is very noticeable in comparison (I don't understand the people that say you can't see a difference from normal viewing distances) ; prepare to be horrified when you hook up a PC at 720p and end up with a 42" equivalent of a 15" LCD monitor. Wit prices dropping like a rock, a full HD TV is the only logical choice even if it's a tad more expensive. It's worth it to be getting literally twice the pixel real estate and panel density of a 720p tv.

Again, unless you sit close to it (like, say, maybe as a computer monitor...duh) then you aren't going to tell the difference. It's pure physics and if you sit 10' aways you won't be able to tell the difference.

Yet again, let me know how that 1280x720 looks when hooked to a computer vs. 1920x1080 (and that would be sitting on the couch w/ a wireless keyboard) -- ever considered playing 1080p video on your computer? 1:1 pixel mapping is going to make the difference. Talk physics all you want, but I can tell the difference and with the multi-functional use of current TVs 720p sets are worthless technology, especially with prices being very similar.

ROFL @ using a computer input for comparison!!!!!

Seriously, a far majority of people using their television sets WILL NOT be hooking up their computers to living room TVs.

Agree on the 720p vs 1080p.

The most important thing to know about resolution on HDTV's is that any TV you buy above 27" or higher you need to go with 1080p!

Some people and reviews like Plasma, some DLP, some LCD but all agree on 1080p in larger sets is well worth the extra $.

On Current broadcasts of already recorded content only, the points made are true on what high def content is actually being broadcast and that you only see the difference on HD DVD's,cable channels that carry HD, PC ect.

But DUH...where have you all been...starting FEB. 2009 thats all going to change and you will see more and more HIGH DEF on new shows and movies as everything going forward will be shot and broadcast in High Def...untill it's like when in the 60's TV went from black and white to color!!

pdiggity said:kzoocooks said:sunman42000 said:i need a TV - any hot deals here?

6th Ave has the Panasonic 42" Plasma 720p on sale for $659 free-shipping. (Sears will be selling the same item on Black Friday for $699 w/limited number in stock.

There is zero reason to consider a 720p set, when there is a much better set for $799 free shipping on Newegg - Panasonic 1080p , Don't kid yourself - 1080p is far superior and is very noticeable in comparison (I don't understand the people that say you can't see a difference from normal viewing distances) ; prepare to be horrified when you hook up a PC at 720p and end up with a 42" equivalent of a 15" LCD monitor. Wit prices dropping like a rock, a full HD TV is the only logical choice even if it's a tad more expensive. It's worth it to be getting literally twice the pixel real estate and panel density of a 720p tv.

What you have written goes beyond just being right; it is self-evident on its face. Thus, anyone with a scintilla of wisdom recognizes you are correct.

But I have a favor to ask:

Though I realize this is a discussion forum, and I realize you are merely trying to guide others less fortunate than yourself to the truth, please don't. Just remain silent and let them purchase all the 720p sets until they disappear from the market. "They" in this instance refers both to the inferior TV sets and to the unfortunates who purchase them at today's inflated prices. We need those sets, and those people, out of the market. It's the only way we can more quickly move forward to where we need to be. Let them go. Let them buy what they want and what they like. And don't feel sorry for them. They are happy at 720p. So be it.

Please remember: Sometimes ignorance is Bliss. Don't spoil their Bliss.

guardian44 said:

Please remember: Sometimes ignorance is Bliss. Don't spoil their Bliss.

I think not... when I am about to buy crap, somebody better let me know I'm buying crap.

I can't seem to find the rebate you are discussing..more insight?

pdiggity said:KnivesACE said:Hopefully I won't have to wait in-line and get up at 3 AM for my television

Thanks for the heads up OP.

Your an idiot if you do. Deals will be plentiful throughout the holiday on TVs and electronics. It's likely that even better deals will be found on Cyber Monday and into the new year. Consumers are on lockdown right about now - so I doubt you'll be seeing any frantic buyers and long lines for high ticket items. Everbody I know is having a very meager Christmas, even the seemingly wealthy ones.

Dont know if ALL consumers are on lockdown

Line at my local bestbuy has already formed...............

Shoot...the Sony Blu-ray is not offered at sale price in the sneak preview sale! Does anyone remember when on Thanksgiving the full online sale was to start? It's no longer mentioned on the link provided in this thread.

$40 OBDII reader, ftw! http://www.Sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00947049000P?keyword=00947049000&sLevel=0

jzambon said:$40 OBDII reader, ftw! http://www.Sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00947049000P?keyword=00...

Price reduces to $39.99 once placed in cart. OOOH! Hubby's been wanting one of these!! Thanks for posting! Selected store p/u too. Anyone know how good these are?