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really good price but when onkyo club had the refurb. one on sale for $119 good find!
optimist20901
New Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2008 @ 11:51p
I know very little about home theater these days (forgot half and the other half changed), but if the feedback on Newegg is at all accurate, this unit can't pipe out to the speakers from an HDMI input. It can only pass through (HDMI output) from the HDMI inputs. That it a show stopper for people like me, who want to go from my receiver/amp out to my speakers.
If I got it wrong, please correct me as I like the brand and LOVE the price.
VenkatAtWallet
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 12:15a
optimist20901 said:I know very little about home theater these days (forgot half and the other half changed), but if the feedback on Newegg is at all accurate, this unit can't pipe out to the speakers from an HDMI input. It can only pass through (HDMI output) from the HDMI inputs. That it a show stopper for people like me, who want to go from my receiver/amp out to my speakers.
If I got it wrong, please correct me as I like the brand and LOVE the price.
Or, can we use the optical/digital/coaxial cable? Are they not better than the audio coming out from the HDMI?
nooonan
Happy Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 12:18a
optimist20901 said:I know very little about home theater these days (forgot half and the other half changed), but if the feedback on Newegg is at all accurate, this unit can't pipe out to the speakers from an HDMI input. It can only pass through (HDMI output) from the HDMI inputs. That it a show stopper for people like me, who want to go from my receiver/amp out to my speakers.
If I got it wrong, please correct me as I like the brand and LOVE the price.
The 506 does not pass through the audio. You need to step up to the 606 model for that feature. I've been keeping my eye on a 606 myself at my local Circuit City that keeps dropping in price since my local store is closing...
PeterW
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 1:30a
nooonan said:optimist20901 said:I know very little about home theater these days (forgot half and the other half changed), but if the feedback on Newegg is at all accurate, this unit can't pipe out to the speakers from an HDMI input. It can only pass through (HDMI output) from the HDMI inputs. That it a show stopper for people like me, who want to go from my receiver/amp out to my speakers.
If I got it wrong, please correct me as I like the brand and LOVE the price.
The 506 does not pass through the audio. You need to step up to the 606 model for that feature. I've been keeping my eye on a 606 myself at my local Circuit City that keeps dropping in price since my local store is closing...
How low?
I don't see much better than $350 or so from Amazon
rigor
Senior Member - 9K
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 4:54a
606/706/806 have junki dcdi on them. you will have issues with some hdmi inputs too. prob why there are so many refurbs.
go for the 905/906
eugovector
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 10:02a
rigor said:606/706/806 have junki dcdi on them. you will have issues with some hdmi inputs too. prob why there are so many refurbs.
go for the 905/906
Can you elaborate further or post to a discussion on this?
SimMike
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 10:09a
VenkatAtWallet said:Or, can we use the optical/digital/coaxial cable? Are they not better than the audio coming out from the HDMI?
No. The new audio format is TrueHD. Optical and digital coax will not handle the extra data of TrueHD surround, which means it is only a matter of time before older Dolby digital 5.1 and THX digital will disappear, that is if you are going to watch the new HD format, blu-ray.
I've already noticed that quite a few blu-ray disks don't even have English Dolby 5.1 or THX audio tracks, just TrueHD (although many times they have foreign language versions of these old formats on the same disk.) So you are stuck with two channel stereo, that is unless you have the ability to decode the TrueHD sound.
I probably got some of this wrong, but the gist is that there is a new sound format coming and you don't want to spend a lot of money on the old format.
jewlz3304
New Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 12:59p
Am I right that the HDMI passthrough is essentially the same as plugging your TV directly into a PS3 (for example), and then connecting coax cables for the sound from the TV to the receiver and the receiver to the speakers?
... do all (most?) TVs support sending the signal over both the HDMI and separate audio speakers?
... if I set it up as described above, versus using this receiver as a passthrough, will there be a time difference between the sound and the video?
rigor
Senior Member - 9K
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 1:26p
506 pass-through analogy: mechanical switch that routes hdmi in (3) and out one
606-806: upsampling sucks in all inputs, processes sound and sends outputs (model dependent) through one hdmi out. some are 1080i only some do 1080p. some only upsample hdmi and pass thru the component. problems with some devices (ps3) maybe not dts truhd(blu-ray). read up on AVS forums before buying.
905/906: really nice dcdi that has no issues and can take anything and poop a 1080p signal without any reason of doubt.
i mean that is harsh but it is true those $999+ units will do all you dream of.
then again a toslink switch $9 and hdmi switch ($40) will work for many folks who dream of $999 refurb receiver but get let down by a $149-599 receiver that just doesn't quite cut it.
know what i mean?
VenkatAtWallet
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 1:58p
I am still very confused with this "Passthrough" (not clear enough)!! Can someone really explain this in detail, please. Many thanks in advance on a thanksgiving day.
rigor
Senior Member - 9K
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 2:00p
go buy a mono price hdmi switch. that is pass through.
tape that on to a standard receiver (without any hdmi input/outputs). you have a 506.
Richardito
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 2:35p
rigor said:go buy a mono price hdmi switch. that is pass through.
tape that on to a standard receiver (without any hdmi input/outputs). you have a 506.
That is oversimplification...
jewlz3304
New Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 3:44p
Can anyone answer whether most TVs will support the HDMI with separate audio functionality without a delay between the sound and the video?
PeterW
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 7:13p
If you want to update your knowledge, plus have an idea of which receivers/HTIB do audio passthrough, Go Here Now!
Pocatello
Ancient Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 8:15p
Is this receiver good at the basics?
Does it sound okay?
Does the AM/FM radio work as it should?
I am looking for a new sound system for my garage. Would this fit the bill?
rigor
Senior Member - 9K
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 8:51p
sounds great. just remember is it 7.1 which is alot different than 6.1 or 5.1 in that you have 2 side firing speakers and 2 rear firing speakers plus 2 front speakers, 1 center and a big subwoofer.
in a small room it can be a pain to set this up like older 5.1 systems
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