really good price but when onkyo club had the refurb. one on sale for $119 good find!
optimist20901
New Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2008 @ 11:51p
I know very little about home theater these days (forgot half and the other half changed), but if the feedback on Newegg is at all accurate, this unit can't pipe out to the speakers from an HDMI input. It can only pass through (HDMI output) from the HDMI inputs. That it a show stopper for people like me, who want to go from my receiver/amp out to my speakers.
If I got it wrong, please correct me as I like the brand and LOVE the price.
optimist20901 said: I know very little about home theater these days (forgot half and the other half changed), but if the feedback on Newegg is at all accurate, this unit can't pipe out to the speakers from an HDMI input. It can only pass through (HDMI output) from the HDMI inputs. That it a show stopper for people like me, who want to go from my receiver/amp out to my speakers.
If I got it wrong, please correct me as I like the brand and LOVE the price.
Or, can we use the optical/digital/coaxial cable? Are they not better than the audio coming out from the HDMI?
nooonan
Happy Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 12:18a
optimist20901 said: I know very little about home theater these days (forgot half and the other half changed), but if the feedback on Newegg is at all accurate, this unit can't pipe out to the speakers from an HDMI input. It can only pass through (HDMI output) from the HDMI inputs. That it a show stopper for people like me, who want to go from my receiver/amp out to my speakers.
If I got it wrong, please correct me as I like the brand and LOVE the price.
The 506 does not pass through the audio. You need to step up to the 606 model for that feature. I've been keeping my eye on a 606 myself at my local Circuit City that keeps dropping in price since my local store is closing...
nooonan said: optimist20901 said: I know very little about home theater these days (forgot half and the other half changed), but if the feedback on Newegg is at all accurate, this unit can't pipe out to the speakers from an HDMI input. It can only pass through (HDMI output) from the HDMI inputs. That it a show stopper for people like me, who want to go from my receiver/amp out to my speakers.
If I got it wrong, please correct me as I like the brand and LOVE the price.
The 506 does not pass through the audio. You need to step up to the 606 model for that feature. I've been keeping my eye on a 606 myself at my local Circuit City that keeps dropping in price since my local store is closing...
How low?
I don't see much better than $350 or so from Amazon
VenkatAtWallet said: Or, can we use the optical/digital/coaxial cable? Are they not better than the audio coming out from the HDMI?
No. The new audio format is TrueHD. Optical and digital coax will not handle the extra data of TrueHD surround, which means it is only a matter of time before older Dolby digital 5.1 and THX digital will disappear, that is if you are going to watch the new HD format, blu-ray.
I've already noticed that quite a few blu-ray disks don't even have English Dolby 5.1 or THX audio tracks, just TrueHD (although many times they have foreign language versions of these old formats on the same disk.) So you are stuck with two channel stereo, that is unless you have the ability to decode the TrueHD sound.
I probably got some of this wrong, but the gist is that there is a new sound format coming and you don't want to spend a lot of money on the old format.
jewlz3304
New Member
posted: Nov. 27, 2008 @ 12:59p
Am I right that the HDMI passthrough is essentially the same as plugging your TV directly into a PS3 (for example), and then connecting coax cables for the sound from the TV to the receiver and the receiver to the speakers?
... do all (most?) TVs support sending the signal over both the HDMI and separate audio speakers?
... if I set it up as described above, versus using this receiver as a passthrough, will there be a time difference between the sound and the video?
506 pass-through analogy: mechanical switch that routes hdmi in (3) and out one
606-806: upsampling sucks in all inputs, processes sound and sends outputs (model dependent) through one hdmi out. some are 1080i only some do 1080p. some only upsample hdmi and pass thru the component. problems with some devices (ps3) maybe not dts truhd(blu-ray). read up on AVS forums before buying.
905/906: really nice dcdi that has no issues and can take anything and poop a 1080p signal without any reason of doubt.
i mean that is harsh but it is true those $999+ units will do all you dream of.
then again a toslink switch $9 and hdmi switch ($40) will work for many folks who dream of $999 refurb receiver but get let down by a $149-599 receiver that just doesn't quite cut it.
I am still very confused with this "Passthrough" (not clear enough)!! Can someone really explain this in detail, please. Many thanks in advance on a thanksgiving day.
sounds great. just remember is it 7.1 which is alot different than 6.1 or 5.1 in that you have 2 side firing speakers and 2 rear firing speakers plus 2 front speakers, 1 center and a big subwoofer.
in a small room it can be a pain to set this up like older 5.1 systems
I just received my refurb TXXSR505 from Club Onkyo. It was $124 shipped. Receiver looked brand new. All accessories were included except for the batteries for the remote. Warranty is 1 year compared to 2 tears for a new unit.
rigor said: 606/706/806 have junki dcdi on them. you will have issues with some hdmi inputs too. prob why there are so many refurbs.
go for the 905/906
Dunno why all the negative comments about the 500/600 line.
The 605/606 etc are very well regarded as one of the best HDMI bang/buck receivers that support hi-rez audio (Yamaha VX670?? IIRC) being the other. The 506 isn't as well decked out but for a basic HT receiver it's a great deal at $150 shipped.
The DCDi deinterlacing is better than the deinterlacer in most TVs. If you have better you probably don't need it anyway. I've got a 360, TiVo HD, PS3, Reon-based HD-DVD player, and Wii all hooked up - nothing that outputs 480i - so who cares?
The only issue I have with my 605 is the component video -> HDMI conversion has a bit of white crush - seems only the early firmware versions (I have main firmware 1.0) because most folks on AVS have no such problem. Pretty minor.
HDMI is a bit flaky at times no matter what. Stupid copy protection stuff makes it annoyingly finicky. My 605 has no real problems.
In fact I run 2 devices -> Pelican quick switch automatic switcher -> into one input and the TiVo HD into the other. And split with a manual splitter between a projector and an LCD. Quite the complicated setup. Once in a great while I need to power cycle the receiver to get the signal working again. That's pretty much the only problem I get.
yeah the whole point though is to concentrate all inputs without any glitches. that is why there are so many on the refurb site.
and the 506 was $97 a few weeks back for a silver one on refurb shoponkyo. i've got the invoice for one sitting here. not sure why they move the price up and down so much.
ok so if i pass through using hdmi will i get surround through my stereo speakers or not? the way some explained it here sound would only come out of the tv using the hdmi connections...if this is true its the dumbest thing ever. in other words
JamesD1343 said: ok so if i pass through using hdmi will i get surround through my stereo speakers or not? the way some explained it here sound would only come out of the tv using the hdmi connections...if this is true its the dumbest thing ever. in other words
ps3 --> onkyo --> tv (all hdmi)
tv speakers are off
will i hear any audio from a movie or not
Of course you will get sound from the receiver - why else would it be there. Like you said, just zero out the sound from the monitor speakers and you are all set.
Pocatello said: Is this receiver good at the basics?
Does it sound okay?
Does the AM/FM radio work as it should?
I am looking for a new sound system for my garage. Would this fit the bill?
Yes
honclfibr
Member
posted: Jan. 5, 2009 @ 11:16a
shank said: JamesD1343 said: ok so if i pass through using hdmi will i get surround through my stereo speakers or not? the way some explained it here sound would only come out of the tv using the hdmi connections...if this is true its the dumbest thing ever. in other words
ps3 --> onkyo --> tv (all hdmi)
tv speakers are off
will i hear any audio from a movie or not
Of course you will get sound from the receiver - why else would it be there. Like you said, just zero out the sound from the monitor speakers and you are all set.
No. You won't get sound from the receiver. The HDMI ports on this unit are simply a passthrough switch, as has already been stated. The receiver passes the hdmi onto the TV but does not decode the audio signal.
As for why would it be there? Because it convinces people who don't know any better to buy it. Like you. And those who listen to you.
ikonoklast
Senior Member
posted: Jan. 5, 2009 @ 11:17a
shank said: JamesD1343 said: ok so if i pass through using hdmi will i get surround through my stereo speakers or not? the way some explained it here sound would only come out of the tv using the hdmi connections...if this is true its the dumbest thing ever. in other words
ps3 --> onkyo --> tv (all hdmi)
tv speakers are off
will i hear any audio from a movie or not
Of course you will get sound from the receiver - why else would it be there. Like you said, just zero out the sound from the monitor speakers and you are all set. 506 will NOT process audio via HDMI. He will need to use the optical out on the PS3 for audio. I wish manufacturers would be more clear about this but why would they? It confuses people into buying.
JamesD1343, you will need to buy something like a 606 to get audio processing through HDMI. Expect to spend at least $350.
shank said: JamesD1343 said: ok so if i pass through using hdmi will i get surround through my stereo speakers or not? the way some explained it here sound would only come out of the tv using the hdmi connections...if this is true its the dumbest thing ever. in other words
ps3 --> onkyo --> tv (all hdmi)
tv speakers are off
will i hear any audio from a movie or not
Of course you will get sound from the receiver - why else would it be there. Like you said, just zero out the sound from the monitor speakers and you are all set.
He won't get sound from the receiver nor the TV, if the sound on that tv is off. To explain in simple terms: 505 - HDMI (xbox360) -> 505 -> TV (Video and Sound works) - HDMI (xbox360) -> 505 -> TV (video works) 7.1c speaker (does not work) unless toslink or coxial 606 - HDMI works all with TV and 7.1c speaker
thanks all this is how i understood it as i read it but wanted to be certain. reviews on Amazon and Newegg confirm this also. one of the dumbest misleading options i think ive ever seen in a receiver.
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