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AMD Phenom 9600 Agena 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail FREE SHIPPING

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$100 - $15 off coupon code AMD3615

 

$170 with a good Gigabyte board combo, pick up cheap ram, video card, DVD burner, case and hard drive and you have a bagin little system for $300-400.
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(limit 9999 per customer), hurry and get yours while you still can. Sometimes I wonder why Newegg puts those limits on items?


Awesome OP! Just got one to replace the 5000+ X2!

After coupon and tax in SoCal comes out to $92.


Does socket have to be AM2+ - I have an LE-1620 AMD processor right now. Anyone know if this quad will work on my motherboard?


Does it work upgrading from X2 6000+?


divemaul2008 said: Does socket have to be AM2+ - I have an LE-1620 AMD processor right now. Anyone know if this quad will work on my motherboard?

What make and model is your board?


Will this work on my current MB? I have AMD AM2 Athlon 64 x 2.

How do you find out what make/model is?


ETA: I think its MCP61S
My pc is an Acer T180


VeroniqueBlade said: Will this work on my current MB? I have AMD AM2 Athlon 64 x 2.

How do you find out what make/model is?


ETA: I think its MCP61S
My pc is an Acer T180

The Foxconn boards, I doubt it'll support AM2+ though...


Thanks OP....wonder how long till the 9950
goes under $100?

My Intel 6750E still chugs along good enough
on most new games thanks to the MSI 9800GT to
allow the cheapskate in me to wait for the 9950 for < $100.
The 9600 would only give me about a 42% boost in
processing and no games out so far are
written to take advantage of the quad.

I recommend the Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 for $75.


New way to know you're now an old fart. When you can't keep up with CPU models and have to ask the kids.

I have a Dell Dimension E521 with an X2 3800. I doubt this processor would work, but I can't find anything out on the Dell site to tell me what I could put in it to upgrade it.

Help an old guy out...what do I do?


gadgetman said: New way to know you're now an old fart. When you can't keep up with CPU models and have to ask the kids.

I have a Dell Dimension E521 with an X2 3800. I doubt this processor would work, but I can't find anything out on the Dell site to tell me what I could put in it to upgrade it.

Help an old guy out...what do I do?

be careful with dells, they often have custom components that only let you upgrade through Dell. The cases have a strange motherboard mount, the power supply has custom motherboard connectors and often the motherboard has a custom configuration that won't allow you to upgrade, unless you buy from Dell. Your best bet would be to call Dell and ask them.


Keep in mind this model has the TLB erratum error. A mainboard patch workaround cuts performance by 10-15%.

Just keep that in mind. Great price though.


tante said: gadgetman said: New way to know you're now an old fart. When you can't keep up with CPU models and have to ask the kids.

I have a Dell Dimension E521 with an X2 3800. I doubt this processor would work, but I can't find anything out on the Dell site to tell me what I could put in it to upgrade it.

Help an old guy out...what do I do?


be careful with dells, they often have custom components that only let you upgrade through Dell. The cases have a strange motherboard mount, the power supply has custom motherboard connectors and often the motherboard has a custom configuration that won't allow you to upgrade, unless you buy from Dell. Your best bet would be to call Dell and ask them.


By the time I got done upgrading a friend's Dell
it looked like a Rube Goldberg science project.

It ran fine but when I got done the only
part I could reuse was the case.


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My neice has a Dell 3000 that is sealed with aluminum rivits instead of screws.

Cajun


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Tacoma99 said: tante said: gadgetman said: New way to know you're now an old fart. When you can't keep up with CPU models and have to ask the kids.

I have a Dell Dimension E521 with an X2 3800. I doubt this processor would work, but I can't find anything out on the Dell site to tell me what I could put in it to upgrade it.

Help an old guy out...what do I do?


be careful with dells, they often have custom components that only let you upgrade through Dell. The cases have a strange motherboard mount, the power supply has custom motherboard connectors and often the motherboard has a custom configuration that won't allow you to upgrade, unless you buy from Dell. Your best bet would be to call Dell and ask them.



By the time I got done upgrading a friend's Dell
it looked like a Rube Goldberg science project.

It ran fine but when I got done the only
part I could reuse was the case.

Newer Dell computers are much easier to upgrade/replace parts. The power supply no longer has propietary connections, etc. As far as what CPU your motherboard can handle run SiSoft Sandra or any similar program and get the model of the chipset that the mobo uses. Then go to the web and search for that chipset model. You should be able to get info on the FSB the chipset supports and even the CPUs. Just to Asus (as an example) and take a look at the mobos with the same chipset as yours. Check the supported CPU list and you should be good.


MoonlitHollow said: Keep in mind this model has the TLB erratum error. A mainboard patch workaround cuts performance by 10-15%.

Just keep that in mind. Great price though.

I personally would avoid AMD quad cores like the plague. They have the issue that you are describing and also suffer from insufficient L2 cache memory to reach it's highest potential in terms of performance (minimum of 1mb per core from a review article I read). I would either go with a faster AMD dual core or with a 3 core AMD CPU. Read the reviews on AMD's newest CPUs so you can get a better idea of what would be your best upgrade scenario. Good luck.


MoonlitHollow said: Keep in mind this model has the TLB erratum error. A mainboard patch workaround cuts performance by 10-15%.

Just keep that in mind. Great price though.

Thanks for the info!! I've done some searching and I can't seem to locate what the 10%-20% brings it down to. Any idea of an equivalent CPU performance-wise?


Think they'll ever make a 45W version?

I got the 4850e for my HTPC. Trying to do the whole low power thing (I don't need 4 cores for what this machine is for).


fuzzycuffs said: Think they'll ever make a 45W version?

I got the 4850e for my HTPC. Trying to do the whole low power thing (I don't need 4 cores for what this machine is for).

I just built a Phenom 9600 into an HTPC with the stock AMD cooler, although I did use Arctic Silver 5...

With AMD Cool N Quiet Engaged, it steps the proc as needed and never goes over 50C.

I like it. Wonder if you can pair up with any combo deals


Make: eMachines
Model: EL1210-09

Before you laugh at me getting an eMachine - it was a good price. Working well so far. I think base don this thread I will look for a dual core or 3 core? AMD cpu. I want to do some video stuff and be handle editing large camera pics.


nneelix said: (limit 9999 per customer), hurry and get yours while you still can. Sometimes I wonder why Newegg puts those limits on items?

I get so frustrated when I simply want to buy 10,000 of something from the Egg, but have to make a 2nd order for just one more item


Good info here - http://www.productwiki.com/cpus/


Tacoma99 said: no games out so far are
written to take advantage of the quad.

Orange Box (Portal, Half Life 2 : EP2, Team Fortress 2)
Crysis Warhead
Left4Dead
GTA IV

Never say there isn't any.


most of you who have "big box" computers like Emachines, Dell, Gateway, HP, etc... should definitely check with your manufacturer to make sure that your motherboard has the BIOS upgrade available to handle the Phenom series which I think belong to the AM2+ core family).

That being said, it is also in your best interest to have an 64 bit operating system and PC1066 RAM, but well... that's up to you. You can always trash your current comp in a few months/years and port the processor into an AM3 ready build.


Lexington001 said: MoonlitHollow said: Keep in mind this model has the TLB erratum error. A mainboard patch workaround cuts performance by 10-15%.

Just keep that in mind. Great price though.


Thanks for the info!! I've done some searching and I can't seem to locate what the 10%-20% brings it down to. Any idea of an equivalent CPU performance-wise?
The published specs already reflects the problem. You are not short changed in any way but don't expect lots of potential to OC.


CollegeRamenEater said: fuzzycuffs said: Think they'll ever make a 45W version?

I got the 4850e for my HTPC. Trying to do the whole low power thing (I don't need 4 cores for what this machine is for).


I just built a Phenom 9600 into an HTPC with the stock AMD cooler, although I did use Arctic Silver 5...

With AMD Cool N Quiet Engaged, it steps the proc as needed and never goes over 50C.

I like it. Wonder if you can pair up with any combo deals

Yeah, the 4850e idles at 31C, which is stupid cool. But it's also the power draw. I'm going to pick up a Kill-A-Watt (missed the deal the other day) to see how little power this thing draws.


I have an old ibm AT, i wonder if this will work with that. Of course I will have to find a new boat anchor


gadgetman said: New way to know you're now an old fart. When you can't keep up with CPU models and have to ask the kids.

I have a Dell Dimension E521 with an X2 3800. I doubt this processor would work, but I can't find anything out on the Dell site to tell me what I could put in it to upgrade it.

Help an old guy out...what do I do?

Don't think it's possible, Gramps - wrong voltage supplied to the CPU socket at best, incompatible socket at worst. To get this upgrade you're talking a new motherboard, new power supply (200 Watts for this CPU - I have one, I know) and yadda yadda.

It's not worth it.


gadgetman said: I have a Dell Dimension E521 with an X2 3800. I doubt this processor would work, but I can't find anything out on the Dell site to tell me what I could put in it to upgrade it.

Help an old guy out...what do I do?

I read through the owner's manual .. only until page 107 before I found what I needed: it's nVidia 6150LE chipset. Here is the quick answer, don't do it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that chipset/motherboard but it is just not worth the trouble because there is a fundamental technology generation mismatch here. 6150 is too old. The good thing is, Dell's AMD systems are as generic as any of the Joe Blow's (I am assuming).

Lets work backwards (or forward in my way of thinking), why do you need a Quad core? Is it something that would help in some apps (please specify)? Is there some performance deficiencies that you would like to improve, perceived or real? Now, the real answer, I think this 9600 Quad will/should work in your system. It may require flashing to the original MFGer's BIOS for support. I can tell you a quad will make the system run smoother (than a dual core) in some apps. You system will also benefit from a dedicated video card (i.e. ATI 4830), faster HD, one of them 640 GB from WD, may be up to 2 GB of DDR2). They are all transferable (to your newer system when you are ready) so there is no dead end here.

Not sure why Ito said what he said. All the AMD's quads have 512KB of L2 cache. It is a highly complex discussion on why the first GEN quad do not perform well. It has to a lot to do with mem controller and DDR2. Yes, a larger L3 would help, a lot.


nycll said: Lexington001 said: MoonlitHollow said: Keep in mind this model has the TLB erratum error. A mainboard patch workaround cuts performance by 10-15%.

Just keep that in mind. Great price though.


Thanks for the info!! I've done some searching and I can't seem to locate what the 10%-20% brings it down to. Any idea of an equivalent CPU performance-wise?
The published specs already reflects the problem. You are not short changed in any way but don't expect lots of potential to OC.

That is, as far as overclocking goes, unless you have a motherboard with AMD's 780/790 chipset. Granted, you probably won't get more than a 15% overclock with a good third party cooler, but you'll never get the return on overclocking once you start throwing money at it. Overclocking is a money losing game IMHO.


peterb456 said:
That is, as far as overclocking goes, unless you have a motherboard with AMD's 780/790 chipset. Granted, you probably won't get more than a 15% overclock with a good third party cooler, but you'll never get the return on overclocking once you start throwing money at it. Overclocking is a money losing game IMHO.

It depends on the chip. For the cpu in question you are absolutely correct.


CollegeRamenEater said: fuzzycuffs said: Think they'll ever make a 45W version?

I got the 4850e for my HTPC. Trying to do the whole low power thing (I don't need 4 cores for what this machine is for).


I just built a Phenom 9600 into an HTPC with the stock AMD cooler, although I did use Arctic Silver 5...

With AMD Cool N Quiet Engaged, it steps the proc as needed and never goes over 50C.

I like it. Wonder if you can pair up with any combo deals

Great deal on the processor. Just last week I felt that I needed to start an HTPC project. My motherboard of choice is the MSI Media Live Diva 5.1, w/ built-in ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3200 (HDMI incl'), and 100W x 5 channel amplifier. I thought it could be risky to go that route, but I'll try it and see. I found an open box Mobo w/ this Processor totaling $220 and change shipped! Saved me over $90

Anyone have open-box experience from Newegg? If it wasn't satisfactory, how was the RMA process? I just want to get a heads up JIC.


JorgeBurrito said: peterb456 said:
That is, as far as overclocking goes, unless you have a motherboard with AMD's 780/790 chipset. Granted, you probably won't get more than a 15% overclock with a good third party cooler, but you'll never get the return on overclocking once you start throwing money at it. Overclocking is a money losing game IMHO.


It depends on the chip. For the cpu in question you are absolutely correct.

So far, I couldn't get this 9600 to 2.7 GHz stable. Even at 2.7, I won't call it a good OC. So for me, why bother, I undervolt it instead. I had it at 100% load (4 cores, 2.3 GHz default, 1066 memory) with the cores at ~ 35 C.

For that Dell guy, your X2 3800+ should be a great OCer. You have nothing to loose there (but to do it).


gusk1200 said: CollegeRamenEater said: fuzzycuffs said: Think they'll ever make a 45W version?

I got the 4850e for my HTPC. Trying to do the whole low power thing (I don't need 4 cores for what this machine is for).


I just built a Phenom 9600 into an HTPC with the stock AMD cooler, although I did use Arctic Silver 5...

With AMD Cool N Quiet Engaged, it steps the proc as needed and never goes over 50C.

I like it. Wonder if you can pair up with any combo deals


Great deal on the processor. Just last week I felt that I needed to start an HTPC project. My motherboard of choice is the MSI Media Live Diva 5.1, w/ built-in ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3200 (HDMI incl'), and 100W x 5 channel amplifier. I thought it could be risky to go that route, but I'll try it and see. I found an open box Mobo w/ this Processor totaling $220 and change shipped! Saved me over $90

Anyone have open-box experience from Newegg? If it wasn't satisfactory, how was the RMA process? I just want to get a heads up JIC.

I just recently ordered a an asus micro atx am2+ board from Newegg and it was open box and had no problems, just dont expect anything but motherboard. No docs/cables/drivers

As far as this chip it is amazing for the price and I would suggest you guys look at the combo of the 9600 and atx biostar board which is a 780GX, very nice all for like 190


How do these compare to C2Ds and C2Qs?


Minjin said: How do these compare to C2Ds and C2Qs?

they don't

bring on the red.. but it's true


Look Here and here


zuko said: Minjin said: How do these compare to C2Ds and C2Qs?

they don't

bring on the red.. but it's true

Its not so clear cut. Red is secondary but deserving nonetheless.


zuko said: Minjin said: How do these compare to C2Ds and C2Qs?

they don't

bring on the red.. but it's true

yeah, the Phenom XII series are a better match-up to the Qs


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