If you ever tried to upgrade your video card or put in a couple extra drives in your Dell, you probably realized the hard way that all OEMs have to cut corners somewhere. So they give you a bare minimum power supply and a tiny lil proprietary motherboard, etc. A video card upgrade necessitates a power supply upgrade, which Dell doesnt make easy. Well lucky for you, PCP&C makes this industrial-grade unit to soothe your rage. Nevermind the output spec, if you look on the manufacturer's site, you'll see that the 12V rail is specced at 35 amps. Thats enough to power ANYTHING you could ever fit in your flimsy lil Dell (hehe couldn't help it, I build custom PCs). This is an almost "boutique" brand that has been a presence in the enthusiast PC market for years now. They have a few notable achievements also, one of which is making the first power supply to be SLI certified by NVIDIA. This price is $20 cheaper than it was yesterday and even at yesterday's price, it is worth EVERY penny. Did I mention it has a 5 year warranty? Eligible for Prime also. Now hurry before its too late!
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Thanks, OP!!! I just bought it for 19 bucks more - just e-mailed Amazon to get an adjustment.
Stridhiryu030363 - this is not expensive at all considering how picky Dell is with its replacement power supplies. It is very specialized, yes, but it is not meant to be for every system.
If it's anything like the 510 ppc power supply I bought five years ago it should be a *strong* power supply and well worth the money. I paid more than double then and while it was a little excessive I have no regrets.
Apparently Amazon no longer does price adjustments. I am on the phone with the supervisor right now and the only option he could think of was for me to re-order this item, then return the second delivered PSU as the first one (they are the same) for a refund of the higher price. Kinda counter-intuitive since they end up eating the cost of shipping twice, but hey, if it works...
Sychev22 said:this is not expensive at all considering how picky Dell is with its replacement power supplies. It is very specialized, yes, but it is not meant to be for every system.
for curiosity's sake, what stops you from putting in any power supply that aren't specialized for dells?
stridhiryu030363 said:Sychev22 said:this is not expensive at all considering how picky Dell is with its replacement power supplies. It is very specialized, yes, but it is not meant to be for every system.
for curiosity's sake, what stops you from putting in any power supply that aren't specialized for dells? I think Dell PSU are a special size not standard size. And you'd have to cut sheet metal to fit in a standard size PSU. At least thats what I remember from years ago.
zapjb said:stridhiryu030363 said:Sychev22 said:this is not expensive at all considering how picky Dell is with its replacement power supplies. It is very specialized, yes, but it is not meant to be for every system.
for curiosity's sake, what stops you from putting in any power supply that aren't specialized for dells? I think Dell PSU are a special size not standard size. And you'd have to cut sheet metal to fit in a standard size PSU. At least thats what I remember from years ago. Dell power supplies have an extra 4 pin clip-on to the main power connection to the motherboard. You can use a standard supply in a Dell with a special adapter... 20 pin to 24 pin I think.
The supplies themselves are standard size, although some PCP&C supplies are a bit longer than what Dell uses so space between the supply and your optical drives can be cramped or impossible. I replaced mine with a PCP&C 750w and I had to remove one of the two optical drives for it to fit.
Note that the psu does not have a rocker switch for turning the power supply on/off. Certain Dell cases that this is designed for don't have a space or cut-out through which the rocker switch is accessible. As you can imagine, a standard psu with a rocker switch would not sit smoothly within the case if the rocker switch was abutting a section of case steel. The case only allows for the power plug to be connected to the psu. And that is what this psu is partly designed for. Sometimes, Dell requires non-standard motherboard power connectors. In this case, it doesn't look like it since this psu supports the GX240, and I know from experience that the GX240 takes a standard ATX connector. I wish this deal would have been around when I bought a Silencer last year for $90 for my GX240
zapjb said:stridhiryu030363 said:Sychev22 said:this is not expensive at all considering how picky Dell is with its replacement power supplies. It is very specialized, yes, but it is not meant to be for every system.
for curiosity's sake, what stops you from putting in any power supply that aren't specialized for dells? I think Dell PSU are a special size not standard size. And you'd have to cut sheet metal to fit in a standard size PSU. At least thats what I remember from years ago.
stridhiryu030363 said:pretty expensive for a 500w imo.But it's a PCP&C 500W, which is more like most companies' 600-700W units. Here's a comparison between a 510W PCP&C Silencer versus an unnamed 550W Enermax:
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larrymoencurly said:stridhiryu030363 said:pretty expensive for a 500w imo.But it's a PCP&C 500W, which is more like most companies' 600-700W units. Here's a comparison between a 510W PCP&C Silencer versus an unnamed 550W Enermax: Well, this is not a Turbo. Yes, this is one of Seasonics and I have one. It's okay. Call me anti-social or whatever, sometimes buying just because (the brand name) is not a guarantee of quality any more. Does Samsung still make non TN LCD monitors? For sure, when I see the name of Sony, I ..
$56 is not a good price for this unit. A Turbo? hell yes.
I can't challenge your authority on power supplies (and other things) but Enermax does not make crap.
If you are gauging the capability of a power supply based on total POWER OUTPUT (wattage), no offense but you are misguided. Anyone with an inkling of experience in building PCs knows that the most important figure is the CURRENT (measured in amps). Do a quick comparison of the numbers in that chart posted above and you will see that the 12V rail on the PCP&C is clearly superior to the Enermax.
Well, this is not a Turbo . . . I can't challenge your authority on power supplies (and other things) but Enermax does not make crap.
Nobody is badmouthing Enermax, but you are aware that their units come with a three year warranty, right? PCP&C gives you a FIVE year warranty (and they always have, while some manufacturers reserve the 5 year for their "high end" offerings). They may not make crap, but their warranty is pretty much a direct indication of the confidence in their product. Mayhaps it is lacking.
You skeptics--have fun replacing your "700W UBER MODULAR 6 RAIL LED FAN" power supplies 6 months after you bought them.
bdenton42 said:Dell power supplies have an extra 4 pin clip-on to the main power connection to the motherboard. You can use a standard supply in a Dell with a special adapter... 20 pin to 24 pin I think.
most current power supplies have that extra clip on. my gigabyte and asus boards take them.
sidenote: some boards don't need that extra clip on. connecting the 20 pin on a board that has 24 may still work.
liquidinfo said:If you are gauging the capability of a power supply based on total POWER OUTPUT (wattage), no offense but you are misguided. Anyone with an inkling of experience in building PCs knows that the most important figure is the CURRENT (measured in amps). Do a quick comparison of the numbers in that chart posted above and you will see that the 12V rail on the PCP&C is clearly superior to the Enermax.
Enermax isn't a good brand to begin with imo. I've gotten 500 w power supplies in the past for only $40 ar. They usually come with two 12v rails of 18a each which is 1 more than this power supply total. Watch out for these since they randomly go on sale for 10 less than it is right now.
Anandtech Editors Choice GOLDEnermax is good, but when it comes to power supply evaluations, Anandtech is not that good, although it has improved vastly since its says of reviewing "better faster cheaper" power supplies.
paazel said:enermax isn't a good brand??? imo = in my opinion
so what if they actually tried harder on this model and put quality parts on this model?
it also shows in the price. will not pay over 65 for 385 watt power supply. will rather wait for an antec earthwatts at a lower price with a higher power rating.
i got the earthwatts 500w ps in that frys case deal, and it looks like a cheap piece of crap... no insulation around the case metal edge, where it meets the wires coming out of the power supply, and if you shine a light into the ps, you can see a huge gap on top, where the original design must have had a 120mm fan in it... it looks like they simply put a 120mm fan'ed ps into a case with a smaller fan.
there is no excuse for a 500w ps to not fill up the inside of the case, for that kind of wattage you should have full-high heat sinks, if there is room for it... notice that in the pic that was posted earlier in this thread.
i have a 380w earthwatts that has worked great tho, and an antec neohe 550w ps that has been bulletproof for years, so ymmv as to whether or not antec is better than enermax.
my personal opinion is that it's fully ignorant to threadcrap on enermax, but whatever, lol
osv1 said:.. and an antec neohe 550w ps that has been bulletproof for years, 18A x 3 @50C sustained ain't too shabby even today. Count yourself lucky if you got one from that Fry's clearance deal.
Don't assume you need to fill out the casing to think the PS is not good. Active PFC PS are lighter, probably less bulky components and run cooler. Seasonic probably uses the same casing for many models. The Earthwatts are not in the same league as the HE. It has (only) "dual" 12V rails.
BTW, some late model Channel Wells are very impressive (Corsair HX series). My current favorite are the Antec Signatures which I hear are being discontinued.
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