This HDD sells at Newegg for $128.99 each. That's a $29 savings on each drive. $199.99 for two 1.5 TB drives with free shipping and coupon code "47DGX1L4SS?JS2" . Coupon valid until 7/8/09.
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Np, I remember the days when $1/GB was standard or good deal on HDD, and now you can get 3TB for $200 (about $.07/GB), crazy
BQ2
Member
posted: Jul. 2, 2009 @ 7:56p
Beware, as these drives do not work in RAID, as per reviews on Newegg, and Tom's Hardware. Actually, it's all over the net. That's why Dell is dumping them so cheaply.
BQ2 said: Beware, as these drives do not work in RAID, as per reviews on Newegg, and Tom's Hardware. Actually, it's all over the net. That's why Dell is dumping them so cheaply.
I have 8 of these in my QNAP TS809 running RAID 6. I haven't seen any freezing on them in the 3 months I've been running my box, of course I'm only using it to stream Blu-rays but so far no issues.
These drives from Dell should be the CC1H firmware.
BQ2
Member
posted: Jul. 2, 2009 @ 8:24p
aric said: BQ2 said: Beware, as these drives do not work in RAID, as per reviews on Newegg, and Tom's Hardware. Actually, it's all over the net. That's why Dell is dumping them so cheaply.
I have 8 of these in my QNAP TS809 running RAID 6. I haven't seen any freezing on them in the 3 months I've been running my box, of course I'm only using it to stream Blu-rays but so far no issues.
These drives from Dell should be the CC1H firmware.
How do you know what firmware they will be? I would be all over this, as I'm in need of a RAID array, but do not want any hassles.
aric
Member
posted: Jul. 2, 2009 @ 8:26p
BQ2 said: aric said: BQ2 said: Beware, as these drives do not work in RAID, as per reviews on Newegg, and Tom's Hardware. Actually, it's all over the net. That's why Dell is dumping them so cheaply.
I have 8 of these in my QNAP TS809 running RAID 6. I haven't seen any freezing on them in the 3 months I've been running my box, of course I'm only using it to stream Blu-rays but so far no issues.
These drives from Dell should be the CC1H firmware.
How do you know what firmware they will be? I would be all over this, as I'm in need of a RAID array, but do not want any hassles.
I've order a number of these from Dell in the last few months. The ones I received 2 weeks ago were CC1H, the ones a few months back were CC1H as well.
i8blarg
Member
posted: Jul. 2, 2009 @ 8:57p
i was wondering whos had experience with this particular deal. i think its the 3rd or 4th time Dell has offered this deal. i know alot of people have opinions on the drive, but i was looking for people who've purchased this deal recently
Evaders99
New Member
posted: Jul. 2, 2009 @ 9:22p
Purchased last month.. no issues so far. CC1H firmware, not using RAID
BQ2
Member
posted: Jul. 2, 2009 @ 9:25p
i8blarg said: i was wondering whos had experience with this particular deal. i think its the 3rd or 4th time Dell has offered this deal. i know alot of people have opinions on the drive, but i was looking for people who've purchased this deal recently
The reviews on Newegg are as recent as yesterday. Many people getting bricks! I'm thinking twice about this. It's always a crap shoot with any drive, but this seems to have more than their share of problems, and that's why they are so cheap. If you're lucky enough to get good ones, you are golden!
BQ2 said: Beware, as these drives do not work in RAID, as per reviews on Newegg, and Tom's Hardware. Actually, it's all over the net. That's why Dell is dumping them so cheaply.
Beware you are likely to run into a lot of hearsay posts trashing these Seagate 1.5TB drives from totally ignorant non-owners in these FW threads! They have even been known to cite biased non-verified Newegg user reviews also most written by non-onwers. Some even go so far as to cite reputable hardware sites to make their point even though the site has offically gone on record with an opposing view of those trashign these drives! For Example...Toms had reviewed this drive back on October 2 of this year, and we did not find any issue similar to alleged problems
BQ2 said: i8blarg said: i was wondering whos had experience with this particular deal. i think its the 3rd or 4th time Dell has offered this deal. i know alot of people have opinions on the drive, but i was looking for people who've purchased this deal recently
The reviews on Newegg are as recent as yesterday. Many people getting bricks! I'm thinking twice about this. It's always a crap shoot with any drive, but this seems to have more than their share of problems, and that's why they are so cheap. If you're lucky enough to get good ones, you are golden!
If you read the first couple pages, half the people are getting defective drives.....
Yet more internet fud ! If you read the reviews of ANY drive on Newegg you will find similar reviews posted. If you don't believe it just look at Newegg reviews for Western Digital's new 1.5 and 2TB drives. Bottom line any site that allows non-validated user reviews without any requirement to even own the product they are reviewing IMO are totally worthless.
I wonder how many of those reviews are even legit. Anyone can write a review. It would be more meaningful if they were verifiable owners/purchasers. I've bought a ton of these drives in the last few months, as have coworkers. Every drive manufactured since late January has the CC1H firmware. So I have pretty direct experience with about 10 of these, and no issues whatsoever. Take it for what it's worth, but I will keep buying them. Those negative reviews are just making this drive an incredible value IMO.
BQ2
Member
posted: Jul. 2, 2009 @ 10:02p
I don't have an opinion one way or the other about these drives, I'm only going by what I read. Why would people manufacture negative reviews? Are the positive reviews also suspect?
BQ2 said: Beware, as these drives do not work in RAID, as per reviews on Newegg, and Tom's Hardware.
You have to explain that to my computer, which is running two of these drives as a mirrored pair.
Evaders99
New Member
posted: Jul. 2, 2009 @ 10:25p
Newegg shipping just sucks. I think its a problem with their cheap packaging. Dell came in the precut foam that prevents the drives from knocking against each other.
wfold
New Member
posted: Jul. 2, 2009 @ 10:44p
Can anyone tell me who Dell used to ship their Drives. Ups/Fedex etc.
thanks
i8blarg
Member
posted: Jul. 2, 2009 @ 10:54p
i8blarg said: i was wondering whos had experience with this particular deal. i think its the 3rd or 4th time Dell has offered this deal. i know alot of people have opinions on the drive, but i was looking for people who've purchased this deal recently
cnIsfg said: BQ2 said: Beware, as these drives do not work in RAID, as per reviews on Newegg, and Tom's Hardware. Actually, it's all over the net. That's why Dell is dumping them so cheaply.
Beware you are likely to run into a lot of hearsay posts trashing these Seagate 1.5TB drives from totally ignorant non-owners in these FW threads! They have even been known to cite biased non-verified Newegg user reviews also most written by non-onwers. Some even go so far as to cite reputable hardware sites to make their point even though the site has offically gone on record with an opposing view of those trashign these drives! For Example...Toms had reviewed this drive back on October 2 of this year, and we did not find any issue similar to alleged problems
exactly. this is why im looking to hear the opinion of people who have purchased the Dell deal recently and have some feedback.
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BQ2 said: aric said: BQ2 said: Beware, as these drives do not work in RAID, as per reviews on Newegg, and Tom's Hardware. Actually, it's all over the net. That's why Dell is dumping them so cheaply.
I have 8 of these in my QNAP TS809 running RAID 6. I haven't seen any freezing on them in the 3 months I've been running my box, of course I'm only using it to stream Blu-rays but so far no issues.
These drives from Dell should be the CC1H firmware.
How do you know what firmware they will be?I would be all over this, as I'm in need of a RAID array, but do not want any hassles.
In response to the BOLD I added to your quote...
BECAUSE Dell does not stock items in inventory... they are a JIT (Just in time) manufacturer and buy from multiple sources. They ALSO check the inventory of the people they buy from, for the latest and greatest. They don't BUY old stuff.
*Not a Dell fan. Having worked with them before MANY times, I am NOT a fan of their JIT process.... it means that when I order 2500 PCs from them, ALL of the systems come with DIFFERENT components from DIFFERENT manufacturers, meaning I can't do a single build for software loads and such....*
Turtleman
Broke Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 12:38a
this drive should be good... before when it first release it has problems, but not is fixed with newer firmware... no brick whatsoever, own the one that had problem and flashed it, it's been good.
insomniduck
Tired Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 1:01a
I've never worked with RAID before...in the event the firmware needs to be updated, can it be done from my NAS (Thecus N4100Pro 4-bay) or do I need to stick it in an enclosure or something? If I can do it from the NAS, does it matter if there's data on the drive or if the RAID is/is not built already? Thanks to anyone who can make an educated guess.
I got mine last month 2nd day air through fedex, shipped in a hdd shipping foam/cutout container. Im using them in a Windows Home Server for streaming movies. workin well and came w/newer firmware
insomniduck said: I've never worked with RAID before...in the event the firmware needs to be updated, can it be done from my NAS (Thecus N4100Pro 4-bay) or do I need to stick it in an enclosure or something? If I can do it from the NAS, does it matter if there's data on the drive or if the RAID is/is not built already? Thanks to anyone who can make an educated guess.
firmware update, if successful won't affect your data. It is possible the raid controller might loose memory of the drive (it shouldn't as most raid controllers id drives by some extra data stored on the drive), but you should be able to manually add the drives back into the array if you don't initialize the raid again (initialization will probably blow your data away). You would have to take the drive out and connect it to a regular sata controller for the firmware update.
I have 3 of these drives, on from Newegg that needed a firmware update which fixed all issues (the drive had freeze problems before the firmware update and I was NOT using RAID)
I also have 2 from the last Dell deal, both are CCH1 and seem to work fine after a few days of use, again no RAID just standalone. The do run pretty hot though if that is a concern for people.
one other thing, seagate support really REALLY sucked when I was having problems with the first drive. I had to find my own source for the firmware upgrade, seagate took over a week to reply and their reply didn't get me any closer to the firmware. Had I bought that first drive for use at my business I would have been REALLY screwed. Seagate has things under control now but shame on them for not reacting much more quickly to the firmware issues. In general though you would be an idiot to buy new model anything for production IT.
insomniduck
Tired Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 9:22a
Much thanks. If I understood correctly, the update should work on the RAID. If there is an error/it deletes the RAID info stored in memory, then I'll have to use a SATA controller and rebuild the RAID later. Seems like I should update the firmware first and then initialize the RAID (haven't bought the drives yet).
BQ2 said: I don't have an opinion one way or the other about these drives, I'm only going by what I read. Why would people manufacture negative reviews? Are the positive reviews also suspect? I'd hardly say you don't have an opinion about these drives. You stated your opinion pretty clearly. You are of the opinion that prospective buyers should "beware" and "these drives do not work in RAID" and "that's why Dell is dumping them so cheaply."
Consider this. Here in this thread, I posted positive comments about my direct experience with about 10 of these drives, including several specifically purchased from Dell recently. I own them and use them every day. At the same time, you've posted negative comments about these drives, when you have never owned them or used them and have no direct experience with them at all.
Unfortunately, there's no shortage of goobers eager to repeat negative feedback on something they know nothing about. That may be one reason why there are great deals to be had on this drive, but neither Dell nor Seagate are "dumping" these drives.
BQ2 said: How do you know what firmware they will be? I would be all over this, as I'm in need of a RAID array, but do not want any hassles. Once again: Toddler said: Every drive manufactured since late January has the CC1H firmware. There's no way you'll get a six-month-old drive from Dell. They don't sit on inventory.
Now that the matter has been cleared up, I hope you enjoy your new RAID array, BQ2.
aric
Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 11:17a
My 1.5TB drives from Dell all shipped by UPS. I agree with another poster about the packaging. From Dell they come in the precut foam whereas from Newegg they just use some bubble wrap.
I have 8 in a raid with no issues. I also have a few more I use for backup in an external BlacX. SO far with using 10 of these drives I haven't had an issue.
Since 'Deal Hunter staff' is employed to Fatwallet.com, would their 'certified ad-free' posts be considered conflict of interest ? their main goal is to serve the interest of Fatwallet.com
Providing good, ad-free deals = good for FWers = good for FW? I'm sure there are others on the FW staff purely responsible for revenue generation via ads and deals with retail stores. It doesn't have to necessarily be done by the Deal Hunters
insomniduck
Tired Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 11:52a
amark said: TheBoy said: Since 'Deal Hunter staff' is employed to Fatwallet.com, would their 'certified ad-free' posts be considered conflict of interest ? their main goal is to serve the interest of Fatwallet.comProviding good, ad-free deals = good for FWers = good for FW? I'm sure there are others on the FW staff purely responsible for revenue generation via ads and deals with retail stores. It doesn't have to necessarily be done by the Deal Hunters Does it really bother you theboy? Personally I want to use a service that its staff believes and participates in--and this is a good deal. The staff even lets you down-rate their deals if they're not so good, which says a lot about how they feel about the community (and sure, there is self-interest in any business venture, but there's a world of difference in how different businesses treat their clients). Some companies still believe that building goodwill is a worthwhile endeavor and those are usually the places that get my business.
Besides, without the Deal Hunters, we would have never known about the Barraduda, coolest Java-serving drive ever.
i was one of the people that bought these drives before the firmware issue was publicized. yes, the original firmware didn't work worth crap in raid/some linux. the firmware issue was fixed with a patch you had to email in to support to receive. i used a sata to usb cable to patch the drives and then install in my drobo. since then, i have had no trouble with the drives. the drives haven't shipped with the bad firmware for ~6 months. if you really want to be safe, just plug you drive into a non-raid sata controller and use seagate's disk management tool to check the firmware version, _then_ install it in your raid. as others have said, no one should be receiving old drives from Dell anyway.
the bad firmware wasn't all bad... i lost use of the drives and my drobo for a few weeks, but seagate mailed me an additional 1.5tb drive to make up for it
Technologist said: BQ2 said: aric said: BQ2 said: Beware, as these drives do not work in RAID, as per reviews on Newegg, and Tom's Hardware. Actually, it's all over the net. That's why Dell is dumping them so cheaply.
I have 8 of these in my QNAP TS809 running RAID 6. I haven't seen any freezing on them in the 3 months I've been running my box, of course I'm only using it to stream Blu-rays but so far no issues.
These drives from Dell should be the CC1H firmware.
How do you know what firmware they will be?I would be all over this, as I'm in need of a RAID array, but do not want any hassles.
In response to the BOLD I added to your quote...
BECAUSE Dell does not stock items in inventory... they are a JIT (Just in time) manufacturer and buy from multiple sources. They ALSO check the inventory of the people they buy from, for the latest and greatest. They don't BUY old stuff.
*Not a Dell fan. Having worked with them before MANY times, I am NOT a fan of their JIT process.... it means that when I order 2500 PCs from them, ALL of the systems come with DIFFERENT components from DIFFERENT manufacturers, meaning I can't do a single build for software loads and such....*
You're right about Dell's JIT ordering though your comments about identical systems having different components is questionable. Unless it was a VERY long time ago or you bought the 'home' class of computers from them I find it very hard to believe. I deal regularly with our Dell rep and if any of our several thousand dells started coming with different hardware requiring different drivers withing a single product line/build I'd be all over her.
But for a particular brand hard drive, how many places can they source it from? It's not like Dell is going to source from a reseller when they easily buy enough quantity to go directly to the mfg.
Questionable computer builds aside, you're more likely to get recently manufactured parts from Dell than most other places. If I hadn't just popped 2 1TB drives in my NAS a few months ago i'd be all over this deal.
whizkid7
Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 1:31p
7200.11 drives are buggy..dunn buy.. check reviews go 7200.12
insomniduck
Tired Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 1:34p
whizkid7 said: 7200.11 drives are buggy..dunn buy.. check reviews go 7200.12LOL. It's like these people have topic alerts set up for this drive.
BQ2
Member
posted: Jul. 3, 2009 @ 1:50p
Toddler said: BQ2 said: I don't have an opinion one way or the other about these drives, I'm only going by what I read. Why would people manufacture negative reviews? Are the positive reviews also suspect? I'd hardly say you don't have an opinion about these drives. You stated your opinion pretty clearly. You are of the opinion that prospective buyers should "beware" and "these drives do not work in RAID" and "that's why Dell is dumping them so cheaply."
Consider this. Here in this thread, I posted positive comments about my direct experience with about 10 of these drives, including several specifically purchased from Dell recently. I own them and use them every day. At the same time, you've posted negative comments about these drives, when you have never owned them or used them and have no direct experience with them at all.
Unfortunately, there's no shortage of goobers eager to repeat negative feedback on something they know nothing about. That may be one reason why there are great deals to be had on this drive, but neither Dell nor Seagate are "dumping" these drives.
Congratulations! You had a positive experience. But many, many people have not. Many people have had and are still having problems with these drives. After reading an in depth review of the drive, I wouldn't buy it anyway, as it's a poor performer relative to it's counterparts, and it runs hot. Western Digital has several drives that out perform it costing a few dollars more, but with a 5 year warranty. The Dell drives have only a 1 year warranty. Definitely will pass on this, as there are much better choices. But, good luck to those who bought them, and remember this message when the warranty runs out in 1 year.
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