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OK, I think this product may be better than MagicJack:
NetTALK TK6000

-No PC required, which will save on power!! (bye, ThinClient!)
-"Unlimited" calling, unlike MagicJack's "Free" calling (1 hr limit on calls).
-Actual 1-800 number to call for support

Comes with 3 years of calling for a total of $99.80. MagicJack is $39.95 + $6.95 s/h for 1 year of service + $19.95/year ($39.90 for 3 years). That's $86.80 cost for 3 years, but requires a PC to be on to be able to be used.

Can I get a mod involved in this thread? I swear I've never posted a thread that has so many worthless off-topic posts!! (hint to "yesidonoitall")


NOW CAN WE PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC??!?

Message edited by: FatWallet moderator on 2009-08-10 16:01:05 CDT
Moderator Comment: Edit by Moderator: Political comments removed

This thread is under moderation to keep it on topic — Aug. 10, 2009 @ 4:02pm

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Message edited by: UPdownLoAD on 2009-08-12 13:30:39 CDT

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if i knew ooma will be around for 3 yrs i will give them the $200 instead of these guys.


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MJ was a gamble, but I could afford to eat $40 up front if it didn't work (it has been unreliable for me). If MJ was more stable, I'd have a cheap and reliable second landline number in addition to Vonage, which has been trouble free for me.

But here we have a $100 up front (okay, over 3 months due to payment plan) for a new VoIP provider that nobody has heard of.

I think those who have the cash to throw around need to try it out and let us average struggling from paycheck-to-paycheck people know if it works.

Message edited by: thekid72 on 2009-08-02 15:22:55 CDT
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These guys have amazingly little information on how their system works and how it hooks up to your network and/or computer. I bought an Ooma system after reading in detail how it works. (The fact that it handles its own QoS was a key selling point.) Plus, if I'm going to make an upfront investment, I at least want to have some idea whether the company is venture-backing, in a garage, etc.


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I wouldn't pay for 2 years of anything up front in this environment
if they fold up and go bankrupt --- the consumer might be entitled to zero
I have serious problems with that

perhaps they could answer what kind of insurance they provide for this ... if they have an answer, then someone can update the thread


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charge your payment via credit card and they will refund you the money. Same as sunrocket went down few years ago. I got all my money back from AMEX.


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How about some FACTS - courtesy of dslreports - http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22773621-netTalk-tk6000


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Magic Jack has worked for me 100% on DSL. I can call Russia for 6 and 7 cents a minute and apply more time to that international account in a minute. It has paid for itself 10x over in 6 months, just on domestic calls. Plus, no more calling card pins to dial, just add credit and make call. I am happy I found Magic Jack.


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It seems to be a reasonable offer. My current setup is the unlocked Linksys PAP2 device ($35 on eBay, recommended), and if I counted only US calls I'd pay about $2/month with one of Betamax's services (e.g. voipraider.com). Over three years that brings me to $35+$72 = $108, so about the same as nettalk.

Advantages of nettalk: hopefully foolproof installation, VoIP knowledge not needed, actual customer service. Advantages of PAP2+provider: freedom to change providers at any time, pay-as-you-go as opposed to upfront, great international rates (as far as I understand nettalk does not offer international calls at all so you'd need to use some dialaround scheme), open SIP standard will always be around so no ties to a particular company.

Speaking of OOMA, my perception is that they want to position themselves as the Neiman Marcus of VoIP with flawless service for a slightly higher cost. Gotta love having all of these options...


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i'm looking for something that will call to a fax or modem. anything like that?


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One more thought... How much cheaper than $20 investment and $20 a year can you get? Admitted, I have computer on 24 hr. anyway, and it is an efficient one. If your provider speed is slow is when it doesn't work as well. I have AT&T Express DSL and local line. Saved $60 month minimum switching from AT&T Long Distance. Give Magic Jack a try, it is returnable to Radio Shack and other retailers. Don't buy online.


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Magic Jack has worked for me 100% on DSL. I can call Russia for 6 and 7 cents a minute and apply more time to that international account in a minute. It has paid for itself 10x over in 6 months, just on domestic calls. Plus, no more calling card pins to dial, just add credit and make call. I am happy I found Magic Jack.


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deshwasi said:if i knew ooma will be around for 3 yrs i will give them the $200 instead of these guys.

Buy it at Costco and get a lifetime warranty.


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UPdownLoAD said:OK, I think this product may be better than MagicJack:

What would you base this on? Any supporting facts?


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The concept of MJ is great -- unfortunately, since it relies upon the computer, it's prone to trouble. Personally, mine worked fine until upgrading to Windows7 RC. Afterwards, it started chopping (think: Max Headroom), and much of the time doesn't work at all. Granted, this is the fault of my particular combination of hardware/software -- nevertheless, my MJ isn't working. A strictly ethernet connection would be devoid of all such troubles.

May have to give it a try. Hope it has QoS, at least as an option.


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shank said:How about some FACTS - courtesy of dslreports - http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22773621-netTalk-tk6000

There is some interesting info in this discussion about possible links to MagicJack as well as an apparent shill poster.


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For those who haven't read that far, note that it gets its power via USB connection -- either from an included AC adapter, or via your computer with a free driver (32 bit XP and Vista only so far). Note that it's for POWER ONLY.


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nm

Message edited by: LandOfTheFreebies on 2009-08-02 17:42:24 CDT
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looks like a hacked MJ

check out OOMA at Fry's or Costco


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