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I recommend avoiding these, absolutely no reason to buy one unless 22 days is to long to wait. This is the 1st generation model, 2nd gen model is the same price and performs better, especially in writes. See http://www.Newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167016
1st generation drives will not receive TRIM support via a future firmware upgrade either.
Edit: Timboy, if you plug one of these into a SATA 1.5Gb/s port instead of a SATA 3Gb/s port, for example.
Kougar said:I recommend avoiding these, absolutely no reason to buy one unless 22 days is to long to wait. This is the 1st generation model, 2nd gen model is the same price and performs better, especially in writes. See http://www.Newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167016
1st generation drives will not receive TRIM support via a future firmware upgrade either.
Edit: Timboy, if you plug one of these into a SATA 1.5Gb/s port instead of a SATA 3Gb/s port, for example.
Intel pulled the new ones from the market becuase of a bug. I am sure it will be fixed soon, but the first generation are solid drives, widely regarded as great performers.
LOL. This disruptive new technology will eventually prevail I think, in time. My $0.02 on the reference to "1st generation" SSD... SSDs have been around for a while. MIL / Aerospace have used them for years and years (often custom designed, high and low volume, and ultra mucho-expensive). Samsung came out with one of the first consumer grade units almost 3 years ago. Or at least they were probably the first to target mainstream notebooks. Each vendor is on their, pick one... second, third, forth generation design now and still trying to keep up with degrading (YES- degrading) NAND flash performance generation-over-generation. Sit back for a moment, buy a ticket and watch the show. SSDs are playing out slowly and I certainly don't want to be stuck with a POS 2, 3, 6 months or a year from now. Current models, even the "good" brand names (if there is such a thing anymore) are tending to be riddled with reliability and performance issues. SSDs were and stil are a fantastic concept considering how cheap flash memory has become. But as ALL SSD system architects out there are finding out, they are actually rather difficult to design. At least to design good ones that compete favorably against HDDs. Which BTW have been around to 50+ years now. Ignore my $0.02 if you have extra cash to throw away right now.
c3688t said:LOL. This disruptive new technology will eventually prevail I think, in time. My $0.02 on the reference to "1st generation" SSD... SSDs have been around for a while. MIL / Aerospace have used them for years and years (often custom designed, high and low volume, and ultra mucho-expensive). Samsung came out with one of the first consumer grade units almost 3 years ago. Or at least they were probably the first to target mainstream notebooks. Each vendor is on their, pick one... second, third, forth generation design now and still trying to keep up with degrading (YES- degrading) NAND flash performance generation-over-generation. Sit back for a moment, buy a ticket and watch the show. SSDs are playing out slowly and I certainly don't want to be stuck with a POS 2, 3, 6 months or a year from now. Current models, even the "good" brand names (if there is such a thing anymore) are tending to be riddled with reliability and performance issues. SSDs were and stil are a fantastic concept considering how cheap flash memory has become. But as ALL SSD system architects out there are finding out, they are actually rather difficult to design. At least to design good ones that compete favorably against HDDs. Which BTW have been around to 50+ years now. Ignore my $0.02 if you have extra cash to throw away right now.
Everything I've seen indicates that the latest firmware fixes the so-called degrading generation-over-generation performance problem. Do you have any evidence that shows otherwise?
Can't say I agree. The latest Intel X25 drives are fast and with a new firmware update will support Trim with Windows 7. I see very few downsides with these newest drives besides price and those are dropping very quickly. For most people this would be the biggest single improvement they could make to there computer. The hard drive has ALWAYS been the biggest bottleneck in computers. One improvement they could make is in write speeds but thats not as significant for most people. The Intel drives have 3 year warranties and other brands have 5 year warranties. BTW I DO have extra cash laying around.
c3688t said:LOL. This disruptive new technology will eventually prevail I think, in time. My $0.02 on the reference to "1st generation" SSD... SSDs have been around for a while. MIL / Aerospace have used them for years and years (often custom designed, high and low volume, and ultra mucho-expensive). Samsung came out with one of the first consumer grade units almost 3 years ago. Or at least they were probably the first to target mainstream notebooks. Each vendor is on their, pick one... second, third, forth generation design now and still trying to keep up with degrading (YES- degrading) NAND flash performance generation-over-generation. Sit back for a moment, buy a ticket and watch the show. SSDs are playing out slowly and I certainly don't want to be stuck with a POS 2, 3, 6 months or a year from now. Current models, even the "good" brand names (if there is such a thing anymore) are tending to be riddled with reliability and performance issues. SSDs were and stil are a fantastic concept considering how cheap flash memory has become. But as ALL SSD system architects out there are finding out, they are actually rather difficult to design. At least to design good ones that compete favorably against HDDs. Which BTW have been around to 50+ years now. Ignore my $0.02 if you have extra cash to throw away right now.
It's a bad idea to generalize one idea across an entire range of products or an industry, even though that is mostly correct. This is Intel's first generation of SSDs that launched in 2008, and they still offer some of the best performance amongst SSDs. The 2nd gen "G2" models only improve on it, there isn't anything a Velociraptor drive can do against one of these, even two in a RAID 0 are going to lose out overall.
Regarding the reliability rating, from the specs: "The drive will have a minimum of 5 years of useful life under typical client workloads with up to 20 GB of host writes per day.". Intel uses some wear leveling tricks, from write combining to their own wear leveling algorithm. If any SSD is going to last, it's going to be Intel's. They also warranty these for 3 years, which is standard now for hard drives since Seagate lowered theirs from 5 to 3 years.
Well I'm sure you experts know way more than I do about the SSDs on the market today and those coming out in the future. Especially those of you with disposable income. I'm just a college punk. LOL. I'm normally an early adopter, but SSDs were supposed to be the next big thing--- for a long time now. Way over hyped for years now honestly. All I've noticed is that several people who I know first hand, who have bought or aquired samples of SSD drives (yes, including Intel's 1st gen), were really excited at the beginning, and were actually unhappy with a list of things shortly after... including 1) unfavorable cost per GB 2) data corruption 3) complete drive failure within the first year, and 4) significant performance degredation measured over time. A couple of guys I know in school were looking for a performance boost in a HPC application and recently decided to give up on SSDs until they get a little better. This 1st hand feedback from people I know (and trust) and reading a few articles this last week in EETimes on SSDs/flash has me shy on this expensive upgrade. Please let me know if you've actually bought a killer SSD. I want one-- when its a slam dunk buy.
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