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just in case this may be an issue for some people, the majority of the cord is coiled. i didnt know it was coiled, but it can be pretty handy. it just doesnt look very nice
fordtaurus
Member
posted: Sep. 15, 2009 @ 10:15p
beachcamera has this for $69.95. Talking about 4 cents less... and 3% Bing Cash Back
Is this awesome for gaming? I have the Razer Barracuda HP-1 5.1 Surround Sound headphones and they're getting uncomfortable. I want to use my X-Fi CMSS3D with nice stereo headphones. Thanks.
gimmeryce311 said: just in case this may be an issue for some people, the majority of the cord is coiled. i didnt know it was coiled, but it can be pretty handy. it just doesnt look very nice
L.O.L. I liked it at first, the look of it actually, and how it stretches from compact to long. But I am careless with my wires & when it gets tangled it can be a real mess. Great price!
klrtovfr
New Member
posted: Sep. 16, 2009 @ 3:21a
These are great for listening to music, gaming, videos. They lack the bass that a nonprofessional headphone would have. So if you don't need a lot of bass they work great for gaming. You can play with your equalizer to make the lows louder if you like. They are pretty comfortable as long as you aren't wearing a hat. Cord can be stretched quite a ways but can get annoying if your equipment is on your right side.
Also these have a nominal impedance of 64 ohms. Most headphones are 32ohms. So you will likely have to crank the volume up higher. It does not work well with a Sony PSP unless room is totally quiet. I would assume the same with other portable devices like mp3 players
I bought these at $100 and have been very happy. They are comfortable and seal around the ear well. I haven't tried with an MP3 player, but they can easily get as loud as I need them to on my laptop.
happyface50
Member
posted: Sep. 16, 2009 @ 6:58a
Agree with Klrtovfr, it has very little bass. In fact my $20 Sony has much more bass in comparison. I would not recommend this headphone for $69.99.
Keep in mind that these are intended to be a *true* studio monitor headphone. For that reason, the bass is accurate - not bloated. If you want a lot of bass, there are plenty of cheaper headphones that will rattle your teeth... if you want detail and high fidelity, those cheap boom-boom headphones can't touch these.
Good price, I got them for something like this about a year ago on Amazon. They're great for being stuck in a cubical trying to code with people talking everywhere, hating life....thank god that's over. =)
thekid72 said: Keep in mind that these are intended to be a *true* studio monitor headphone. For that reason, the bass is accurate - not bloated. If you want a lot of bass, there are plenty of cheaper headphones that will rattle your teeth... if you want detail and high fidelity, those cheap boom-boom headphones can't touch these.
I concur. If there is bass in the recording you'll hear it and hear it well without being boomy. They aren't the sveltest headphones and they are sealed as well. I sometimes don't hear the phone on my desk when I have them on.
happyface50
Member
posted: Sep. 16, 2009 @ 11:42a
"....*true* studio monitor headphone........", "true" is a rather subjective term.
A quantitative measurement tells the truth in a more objective manner. Here is a frequency response plot showing 4 different headhpones (including the 280), notice the lack of bass in the region around 60Hz to 200Hz on the 280 in comparison to others.
happyface50 said: "....*true* studio monitor headphone........", "true" is a rather subjective term.
A quantitative measurement tells the truth in a more objective manner. Here is a frequency response plot showing 4 different headhpones (including the 280), notice the lack of bass in the region around 60Hz to 200Hz on the 280 in comparison to others.
I note from that graph that in the region you describe, the only headset closer to the "truth" (0dB line in the graph) than the HD280 is another Senheiser. Sure, the Koss and Grado units provide a more predictable curve in that region, and may be easier to tweak with EQ, but you trade for a messier response around the 5k region. The relatively easy cut on the EQ you would need to tame the bass on the other branded phones is offset by the more difficult boosts you would need in the 5k region to flatten the responses. Out of the box, the Sen's are more accurate across the board, but the response of the others may be more pleasing to some listeners. Note also that the low-end extension for the Sen's is absolutely stellar (which may or may not be of any concern in a set of cans).
happyface50
Member
posted: Sep. 16, 2009 @ 3:30p
HiThere144 said: happyface50 said: "....*true* studio monitor headphone........", "true" is a rather subjective term.
A quantitative measurement tells the truth in a more objective manner. Here is a frequency response plot showing 4 different headhpones (including the 280), notice the lack of bass in the region around 60Hz to 200Hz on the 280 in comparison to others.
I note from that graph that in the region you describe, the only headset closer to the "truth" (0dB line in the graph) than the HD280 is another Senheiser. Sure, the Koss and Grado units provide a more predictable curve in that region, and may be easier to tweak with EQ, but you trade for a messier response around the 5k region. The relatively easy cut on the EQ you would need to tame the bass on the other branded phones is offset by the more difficult boosts you would need in the 5k region to flatten the responses. Out of the box, the Sen's are more accurate across the board, but the response of the others may be more pleasing to some listeners. Note also that the low-end extension for the Sen's is absolutely stellar (which may or may not be of any concern in a set of cans).
The fact that there is a dip in the 60 - 200 Hz region means you will hear lower response in that region regardless of it is at 0db or not. It is the relative response in that region (in comparison to the other region) that give you the relative low bass sound. Of course, this can be corrected with equalization or other means, but the 280 when listening to it out of box will give you the impression of low bass because of the dip in that region of the frequency response. 0db maybe the "truth" if you are listening to only that region, but in reality you are listening the full spectrum (20 - 20K) at a time, so any relative dip can be picked up as lower response, and in this case the bass region.
Yobz
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 16, 2009 @ 3:39p
superbiiz has 5-10% BCB as well, although YMMV w/coupon...
gimmeryce311 said: just in case this may be an issue for some people, the majority of the cord is coiled. i didnt know it was coiled, but it can be pretty handy. it just doesnt look very nice
One reason for the coiled cord is to prevent noise from being introduced into the headset. Put them on and flick the coiled and straight part of the cord right before it goes into the left cup.
klrtovfr
New Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2009 @ 5:17a
The bass is there and good just not over the top like most cheaper headphones. It is hard to describe. The only way I can relate is say with a modern car audio system using 6x9", 6.5" or maybe 8" speakers. The bass is there and sound quality is excellent. However the other cheaper headphones would be like adding a 10" or 12" powered subwoofer that drowns out the rest of the speakers. So if you like sound quality get these headphones, if you like your ears to bleed look for something else.
Im sure they would be fine with your iphone, although these aren't the best headphones for portability. These would be best for use with a pc, laptop, or home theater receiver(it comes with an adapter for the larger headphone inputs). I use the equalizer in itunes to boost the lower frequencies. Sounds good to me.
I dont own an mp3 player. But the psp needs an amplifier. It works good with my wife's env touch phone though. The psp isnt meant to be a mp3 player so im sure the ipods would be much better with these.
happyface50 said: HiThere144 said: happyface50 said: "....*true* studio monitor headphone........", "true" is a rather subjective term.
A quantitative measurement tells the truth in a more objective manner. Here is a frequency response plot showing 4 different headhpones (including the 280), notice the lack of bass in the region around 60Hz to 200Hz on the 280 in comparison to others.
I note from that graph that in the region you describe, the only headset closer to the "truth" (0dB line in the graph) than the HD280 is another Senheiser. Sure, the Koss and Grado units provide a more predictable curve in that region, and may be easier to tweak with EQ, but you trade for a messier response around the 5k region. The relatively easy cut on the EQ you would need to tame the bass on the other branded phones is offset by the more difficult boosts you would need in the 5k region to flatten the responses. Out of the box, the Sen's are more accurate across the board, but the response of the others may be more pleasing to some listeners. Note also that the low-end extension for the Sen's is absolutely stellar (which may or may not be of any concern in a set of cans).
The fact that there is a dip in the 60 - 200 Hz region means you will hear lower response in that region regardless of it is at 0db or not. It is the relative response in that region (in comparison to the other region) that give you the relative low bass sound. Of course, this can be corrected with equalization or other means, but the 280 when listening to it out of box will give you the impression of low bass because of the dip in that region of the frequency response. 0db maybe the "truth" if you are listening to only that region, but in reality you are listening the full spectrum (20 - 20K) at a time, so any relative dip can be picked up as lower response, and in this case the bass region.
Look, I know what you're trying to say about relative response in a given region, and the value of a smooth curve, but the same holds true for the other phones in the graph. All the phones in the graph are normalized with the volume control set for measurement to an SPL of 90dB at 1kHz (the most audible region). By your definition of "true", if you normalize, per your argument, to the smooth part of the curve at 60 Hz to justify the other cans, you must also deal with the nose-dive response throughout the mids and male vocals, as well as the rollercoaster female vocals and highs that result, and which will be much harder to EQ out, as the anomalies are more numerous and further from the 0dB line in the graph.
The Senheisers in that graph have a smoother response curve across the board, and that's all there is to it. They are +/- 5 db from actual from 10 Hz to 5kHz. I'd trade having to perform a minor EQ cut with a very easy Q around 100 Hz on the Sen's for having to deal with that mess in the vocals and highs for the other guys any day of the week. The graph bears out what everyone says: The Sen's have a flatter response overall, and although they won't have that warm bass loudness compensation curve you get from some other phones, you won't have to deal with missing vocals and harsh peaks and dips in the most audible highs that typically go with it.
HiThere144 said: happyface50 said: HiThere144 said: happyface50 said: "....*true* studio monitor headphone........", "true" is a rather subjective term.
A quantitative measurement tells the truth in a more objective manner. Here is a frequency response plot showing 4 different headhpones (including the 280), notice the lack of bass in the region around 60Hz to 200Hz on the 280 in comparison to others.
I note from that graph that in the region you describe, the only headset closer to the "truth" (0dB line in the graph) than the HD280 is another Senheiser. Sure, the Koss and Grado units provide a more predictable curve in that region, and may be easier to tweak with EQ, but you trade for a messier response around the 5k region. The relatively easy cut on the EQ you would need to tame the bass on the other branded phones is offset by the more difficult boosts you would need in the 5k region to flatten the responses. Out of the box, the Sen's are more accurate across the board, but the response of the others may be more pleasing to some listeners. Note also that the low-end extension for the Sen's is absolutely stellar (which may or may not be of any concern in a set of cans).
The fact that there is a dip in the 60 - 200 Hz region means you will hear lower response in that region regardless of it is at 0db or not. It is the relative response in that region (in comparison to the other region) that give you the relative low bass sound. Of course, this can be corrected with equalization or other means, but the 280 when listening to it out of box will give you the impression of low bass because of the dip in that region of the frequency response. 0db maybe the "truth" if you are listening to only that region, but in reality you are listening the full spectrum (20 - 20K) at a time, so any relative dip can be picked up as lower response, and in this case the bass region.
Look, I know what you're trying to say about relative response in a given region, and the value of a smooth curve, but the same holds true for the other phones in the graph. All the phones in the graph are normalized with the volume control set for measurement to an SPL of 90dB at 1kHz (the most audible region). By your definition of "true", if you normalize, per your argument, to the smooth part of the curve at 60 Hz to justify the other cans, you must also deal with the nose-dive response throughout the mids and male vocals, as well as the rollercoaster female vocals and highs that result, and which will be much harder to EQ out, as the anomalies are more numerous and further from the 0dB line in the graph.
The Senheisers in that graph have a smoother response curve across the board, and that's all there is to it. They are +/- 5 db from actual from 10 Hz to 5kHz. I'd trade having to perform a minor EQ cut with a very easy Q around 100 Hz on the Sen's for having to deal with that mess in the vocals and highs for the other guys any day of the week. The graph bears out what everyone says: The Sen's have a flatter response overall, and although they won't have that warm bass loudness compensation curve you get from some other phones, you won't have to deal with missing vocals and harsh peaks in the most audible highs that typically go with it.
BOYS! Please take the headphone technobabble elsewhere, or get a room! Thx!
boulderado
Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2009 @ 10:20a
Are these noice canceling ? Can this be used in airplanes ?
boulderado said: Are these noice canceling ? Can this be used in airplanes ?
No to the first, yes to the second. With the qualifier of what you're going to plug them into. You need a quality device to drive them. And although they're not noise canceling, they do block out a lot of sound...and sound a heck of a lot better than most of the POS noise cancelers. But, again, as has been said throughout the thread, these are studio style headphones. Many people will be disappointed because their music won't sound colored and won't have the dramatically deep bass that they're used to hearing. These are great headphones, but know what you're buying before you buy them.
rodbac
Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2009 @ 1:37p
ToHellWithUGA said: How do these compare to the Sony MDR-V6?
Roughly equivalent, but with a more "bassy" signature. They're both considered among the best "Under $100" headphones.
Oh, and frequency graphs are of *very* limited use in judging how good one pair of phones is compared to another.
rodbac
Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2009 @ 1:41p
jaymk said: What is considered to be the best sealed and open headphones in the $200 price range? Thankyou.
Too many to list. Sealed, my favorites are the Senn HD25-1s (not SPs). Open, I am a fan of the HD600s, which have long been on the short list of "benchmark" headphones against which others are typically compared.
Basically look for anything you can afford from Beyerdynamic, Ultrasone, Grado, Audio-Technica, AKG, and so on (Sennheisers are all over the map- there are some phones that are outstanding for their price, and some that aren't).
happyface50
Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2009 @ 1:50p
HiThere144 said: happyface50 said: HiThere144 said: happyface50 said: "....*true* studio monitor headphone........", "true" is a rather subjective term.
A quantitative measurement tells the truth in a more objective manner. Here is a frequency response plot showing 4 different headhpones (including the 280), notice the lack of bass in the region around 60Hz to 200Hz on the 280 in comparison to others.
I note from that graph that in the region you describe, the only headset closer to the "truth" (0dB line in the graph) than the HD280 is another Senheiser. Sure, the Koss and Grado units provide a more predictable curve in that region, and may be easier to tweak with EQ, but you trade for a messier response around the 5k region. The relatively easy cut on the EQ you would need to tame the bass on the other branded phones is offset by the more difficult boosts you would need in the 5k region to flatten the responses. Out of the box, the Sen's are more accurate across the board, but the response of the others may be more pleasing to some listeners. Note also that the low-end extension for the Sen's is absolutely stellar (which may or may not be of any concern in a set of cans).
The fact that there is a dip in the 60 - 200 Hz region means you will hear lower response in that region regardless of it is at 0db or not. It is the relative response in that region (in comparison to the other region) that give you the relative low bass sound. Of course, this can be corrected with equalization or other means, but the 280 when listening to it out of box will give you the impression of low bass because of the dip in that region of the frequency response. 0db maybe the "truth" if you are listening to only that region, but in reality you are listening the full spectrum (20 - 20K) at a time, so any relative dip can be picked up as lower response, and in this case the bass region.
Look, I know what you're trying to say about relative response in a given region, and the value of a smooth curve, but the same holds true for the other phones in the graph. All the phones in the graph are normalized with the volume control set for measurement to an SPL of 90dB at 1kHz (the most audible region). By your definition of "true", if you normalize, per your argument, to the smooth part of the curve at 60 Hz to justify the other cans, you must also deal with the nose-dive response throughout the mids and male vocals, as well as the rollercoaster female vocals and highs that result, and which will be much harder to EQ out, as the anomalies are more numerous and further from the 0dB line in the graph.
The Senheisers in that graph have a smoother response curve across the board, and that's all there is to it. They are +/- 5 db from actual from 10 Hz to 5kHz. I'd trade having to perform a minor EQ cut with a very easy Q around 100 Hz on the Sen's for having to deal with that mess in the vocals and highs for the other guys any day of the week. The graph bears out what everyone says: The Sen's have a flatter response overall, and although they won't have that warm bass loudness compensation curve you get from some other phones, you won't have to deal with missing vocals and harsh peaks and dips in the most audible highs that typically go with it.
As I've mentioned before, the 280 when listening to it (out of the box) will sound weak in the bass region around 60Hz to 200Hz. You can always change the sound of any headphones (in fact any audio system or device for that matter) by playing with the equalization. The point is out-of-the-box sound.
IMHO the best way to select a headphone is to listen and compare for yourself. If you can't do that, take the comments from others and form an opinion of what might be the model for you.
To quantify measured specs on a pair of headphones is a waste of bandwidth.
jaymk
Member
posted: Sep. 18, 2009 @ 10:43p
thinkN said: jaymk said: What is considered to be the best sealed and open headphones in the $200 price range? Thankyou.
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