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Message edited by: taf on 2009-10-11 17:53:21 CDT

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Call me crazy, but doesn't pumping a clog through the trap defeat the purpose of the trap? Good luck getting the clog out of the bend in your pipe that is in a wall or floor.


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wizwor, a trap exists to trap water, which seals your bathroom from the stench of the sewer. I don't believe it exists to trap debris. This seems like a reasonable idea to me.


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But, if the clog is above or below the part with the propeller, it can't possibly work!


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Gotcha. With two kids and no disposal, I sure have pulled a lot of crap out of my trap, though.


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Unfortunately, the trap that clogs in our home is the bathtub's trap. This 'no-clog' isn't gonna fit in there.
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Message edited by: harry12 on 2009-10-11 08:50:35 CDT
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The hair and other stuff will get trap right at the nob joint. Turning won't be able to remove it.


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Well, if the design is good enough to impress the guys at Popular Science, it's good enough for me. I kind of like the clear design anyway, lets you know if the clog is in the trap or further down (assuming the trap does actually eventualy clog)

Popular Science article


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Guess there is a lot of confusion about this product, how it works! I understood it better after watching this video - http://www.pfwaterworks.net/Video/permaflow-in-action.wmv
Hope it helps


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Message edited by: taf on 2009-10-11 17:53:08 CDT
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$19.95, but now out of stock from Amazon. $34.95 per above from another vendor.


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Isn't a normal trap about $2? So I could just throw away a trap a year and still come out ahead after 10 years?


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cyfan2000 said:Isn't a normal trap about $2? So I could just throw away a trap a year and still come out ahead after 10 years?

Sure, as long as you consider your time worth $00.00 per hour; yeah, you'd come out "ahead".


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Lowes (and most other plumbing supply places I'd imagine) now carries a green flexible trap for bathroom and kitchen sinks that serves the same purpose. if there's a clog in the trap you can just bend/sqeeze it to clear the clog, the pressure from the backed up water would then push the clog through. (no mechanical parts to break or leak) also much cheaper than $20 I do believe

Message edited by: jbjacobson on 2009-10-13 15:24:23 CDT
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bugpowder said:cyfan2000 said:Isn't a normal trap about $2? So I could just throw away a trap a year and still come out ahead after 10 years?

Sure, as long as you consider your time worth $00.00 per hour; yeah, you'd come out "ahead".

Agreed...to a point.

Assuming you don't have corroded bronze/chromed piping which is extremely common outside of new houses or sinks where the plumbing is exposed (and eww you don't want a clear drain there) changing out your P-trap for this is pretty simple. Of course, so is changing it out for a new p-trap. Then again...PVC pipes are pretty good about not collecting gunk in the first place.

My question - is that little rubber flapper strong enough to push through months or years of built-up toothpaste, food, gunk, and all the other lovelies that collect in a sink drain? I can't imagine it will do anything much for hair...which is often the biggest problem for (properly used) drains.

I saw this in Home Depot when I was buying the plumbing for my new kitchen. Cute, but passed and would have done so if it was $20 as well.

Better idea...just watch what you put down your drains in the first place.


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Thanks i'm putting these in for all the sink pukers in my new house.

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rednil said:wizwor, a trap exists to trap water, which seals your bathroom from the stench of the sewer. I don't believe it exists to trap debris. This seems like a reasonable idea to me.
That is correct.


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I'm a little skeptical of this design. The price and the deal are great, but I first wonder how it actually functions as a gas trap. As you know, the real purpose of the trap is not to catch diamond rings but to provide an airtight seal (via some water staying in the U of the pipe) to keep toxic sewer gas from rising back up through the drains into your home.

The second issue is mechanical, I've always found when it comes to plumbing, the less "stuff" in the way of the wastewater flow the better. This looks innocuous, but hooked to a bathroom sink or garbage disposal, that mechanism is guaranteed to catch hair and detritius just by being there, which has an annoying way of building up and causing a clog. What I'm saying is that this thing could cause clogs you might not have otherwise had with a smooth pipe. I guess it's good if you have a trap that already clogs regularly and you're OK with turning it every few weeks. In that case it should work well.


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