add a small filler .. w180 is decent camera and a good gift for upcoming christmas 50 GC from Staples and as usual $30 or $25 coupon from ejunkie
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I wouldn't factor in the $50 gc for the title price. The $50 can only be applied to your NEXT purchase. Also this camera only accepts Sony's PROPRIETARY memory stick cards. So all those sd cards you have won't work and you'll have to factor in the cost of buying Sony's memory cards
shank said:Reviews are AWFUL - whay is Sony thinking?
Care to share some of these "awful" reviews? The DSC-W120 was chosen as best budget camera in a recent roundup at DPReview. I wouldn't think this W180 would be too much different.
desikid said:That is true, but you can buy the NEW original 4GB Sony memory Stick Pro Duo for just $10 on eBay....free shipping too...
Then maybe you can buy an M2 card (whatever that is) for your next Sony camera, like the new PSP Go uses. Any reasonably smart consumer should refuse to support Sony's proprietary formats.
rbraden said: Then maybe you can buy an M2 card (whatever that is) for your next Sony camera, like the new PSP Go uses. Any reasonably smart consumer should refuse to support Sony's proprietary formats.
It is unfortunate that Sony continues to use proprietary cards. However, they do make some very good cameras and when the cards are as cheap as they are, and generally just a few bucks more than SD, it's not that big of a deal.
I understand you rejecting this on principle but by doing so you may just be missing out on a camera that you really would have enjoyed.
humm..........................I guess you are not going to watch movies in Blueray?
rbraden said:desikid said:That is true, but you can buy the NEW original 4GB Sony memory Stick Pro Duo for just $10 on eBay....free shipping too...
Then maybe you can buy an M2 card (whatever that is) for your next Sony camera, like the new PSP Go uses. Any reasonably smart consumer should refuse to support Sony's proprietary formats.
snowcrash said:shank said:Reviews are AWFUL - whay is Sony thinking?
Care to share some of these "awful" reviews? The DSC-W120 was chosen as best budget camera in a recent roundup at DPReview. I wouldn't think this W180 would be too much different.
shank said:snowcrash said:shank said:Reviews are AWFUL - whay is Sony thinking?
Care to share some of these "awful" reviews? The DSC-W120 was chosen as best budget camera in a recent roundup at DPReview. I wouldn't think this W180 would be too much different.
snowcrash said:shank said:Reviews are AWFUL - whay is Sony thinking?
Care to share some of these "awful" reviews? The DSC-W120 was chosen as best budget camera in a recent roundup at DPReview. I wouldn't think this W180 would be too much different.
The ONLY thing the W is suppsoed to denote is the TYPE of camera it is in Sony's lineup. The S,T,and W series are Sony's pocket cameras (H's semi-pocketable). The S series are the value pocket cams, the W series the mode advanced pocket cam line, and T series the superthin pocketcam line. Your statement is the epitome of ignorance when it comes to cameras. Having the same letter 'W' in their models does not mean they share anything in common. A 'W' series camera could have a different sensor, different pixel count, different processor, different lens, different focal range/zoom factor, different LCD screen, viewfinder (or lack thereof), different battery, different flash, different sensitivy range, different movie modes .. etc. In fact , Sony in some years has released W series models where a few of the models were actually based on the previous year W series models and shared little in common with the rest of that year's W lineup.
Example 1: The W100 despite being the highest model released one year doesn't do conversion lenses, doesn't support their camera dock from the year, has worse battery life, and a different body design compared to all other models that year. If you look closely the body design is almost the smae as the previous W# single digit models and not like its siblings in the lineup.
Example 2: The W120 generally received better reviews than the W150 despite being the 'lower model' in the lineup. Why ? Because the pixel count was so bloated on the W150 sensor that the cmaera overcompensated on noise reduction and pictures came out blurry and washed out. Anything above 6-7 megapixels on a standard roughly 1/2.3" sensor is going to be a problem.
If you check the lineup table on http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/sony/dsc_w150-review/ you'll notice again that some cameras in the lineup share very little with each other. The table's a mess. If you want details on a camera check a few good review sites like dcresource, dpreview , or steve's digicams and make your own opinion based on the information. Don't be a homer and just pick something that has a 'W' in it and 'ooo.. lots of pixels!'
Message edited by: lzpoof on 2009-10-12 23:39:50 CDT
snowcrash said:rbraden said: Then maybe you can buy an M2 card (whatever that is) for your next Sony camera, like the new PSP Go uses. Any reasonably smart consumer should refuse to support Sony's proprietary formats.
It is unfortunate that Sony continues to use proprietary cards. However, they do make some very good cameras and when the cards are as cheap as they are, and generally just a few bucks more than SD, it's not that big of a deal.
I understand you rejecting this on principle but by doing so you may just be missing out on a camera that you really would have enjoyed.
Carry a couple adapters with you and you might be able to use the same card in a few different cameras, your phone, and an mp3 player. What's really unfortunate is that a few Sony cameras have required you to format the card IN THE CAMERA for it to work.. I'm assuming related to their Magicgate security or whatever it's called.
Message edited by: lzpoof on 2009-10-12 23:51:10 CDT
lzpoof said:snowcrash said:shank said:Reviews are AWFUL - whay is Sony thinking?
Care to share some of these "awful" reviews? The DSC-W120 was chosen as best budget camera in a recent roundup at DPReview. I wouldn't think this W180 would be too much different.
The ONLY thing the W is suppsoed to denote is the TYPE of camera it is in Sony's lineup. The S,T,and W series are Sony's pocket cameras (H's semi-pocketable). The S series are the value pocket cams, the W series the mode advanced pocket cam line, and T series the superthin pocketcam line. Your statement is the epitome of ignorance when it comes to cameras. Having the same letter 'W' in their models does not mean they share anything in common. A 'W' series camera could have a different sensor, different pixel count, different processor, different lens, different focal range/zoom factor, different LCD screen, viewfinder (or lack thereof), different battery, different flash, different sensitivy range, different movie modes .. etc. In fact , Sony in some years has released W series models where a few of the models were actually based on the previous year W series models and shared little in common with the rest of that year's W lineup.
Example 1: The W100 despite being the highest model released one year doesn't do conversion lenses, doesn't support their camera dock from the year, has worse battery life, and a different body design compared to all other models that year. If you look closely the body design is almost the smae as the previous W# single digit models and not like its siblings in the lineup.
Example 2: The W120 generally received better reviews than the W150 despite being the 'lower model' in the lineup. Why ? Because the pixel count was so bloated on the W150 sensor that the cmaera overcompensated on noise reduction and pictures came out blurry and washed out. Anything above 6-7 megapixels on a standard roughly 1/2.3" sensor is going to be a problem.
If you check the lineup table on http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/sony/dsc_w150-review/ you'll notice again that some cameras in the lineup share very little with each other. The table's a mess. If you want details on a camera check a few good review sites like dcresource, dpreview , or steve's digicams and make your own opinion based on the information. Don't be a homer and just pick something that has a 'W' in it and 'ooo.. lots of pixels!'
The W180 is the current low end model of the W series, just as the W120 was a year or two ago. For the most part the specs and feature list is very similat, except for the change in sensor and pixel count. Yes I realize that the models all perform differently, even within the same lines... all I'm saying is that being a similar camera of the same lineage it should not be DRASTICALLY worse than the W120, a very well-received camera. So when someone calls it "AWFUL" just based on some user reviews, I would take issue with that.
They did drop the max video resolution to 320x240 so that tells me that they are doing cost-cutting and quality may have suffered in other areas as well. Still, relatively speaking (compared to some crappy brands), it would be hard to find any Sony cameras that can really be called "AWFUL".
The W230 is only $30 more and a much better camera - in particular a 4x optical zoom and the normal VGA quality video. Higer pixel count as well, but as was already said, that is not better in small cameras. The W220 (same price as W230) has less pixels, but appears to have the same optics as W230, so it might be better.
Sony is attacking the pixel front with their new sensors, which claim to get much more light into every pixel. The WX1 is the first W model to use that sensor, and Staples does not carry it (or any T model, for that matter). For an initial review (not full - they will add tests later) see imaging-resource.com. It also does 720p video.
As for "propriety is bad": see Apple. Very propriety, but if people are willing to pay for what they see as added value, why not? And if you are 80% of the market (iPod), is your file format (AAC) still "propriety" ?
hamarabajaj said:shank said:snowcrash said:shank said:Reviews are AWFUL - whay is Sony thinking?Care to share some of these "awful" reviews? The DSC-W120 was chosen as best budget camera in a recent roundup at DPReview. I wouldn't think this W180 would be too much different.Interesting that none of the major publications have published reviews, and user comments are not encouraging: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Cybershot-DSC-W180-SteadyShot-Stabili...
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