Kado said: No offense but $450 - $500 for a 14 inch single core 1.3GHz? I don't get it. This laptop is quite light, at 4.2 lb, is thin, at 0.9", and has ridiculous battery life (rated for 8 hours). Usually, laptops of this form factor cost a whole lot more. I don't think the 14" Thinkpads have been this thin since the T43, and I doubt they've ever had this kind of battery life.
Kado
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 13, 2009 @ 6:42p
centrifuge41 said: Kado said: No offense but $450 - $500 for a 14 inch single core 1.3GHz? I don't get it. This laptop is quite light, at 4.2 lb, is thin, at 0.9", and has ridiculous battery life (rated for 8 hours). Usually, laptops of this form factor cost a whole lot more. I don't think the 14" Thinkpads have been this thin since the T43, and I doubt they've ever had this kind of battery life.
Oh, okay thanks.
djmoksha
Member
posted: Oct. 13, 2009 @ 8:18p
anyone have any extended time with this baby? wondering whether to buy or not? do you find the core solo is underpowered at all?
laptop is sweet. picked it up at Amazon for 535 OTD and worth every penny. thin & light, 8+ hours of battery life,HDMI out, 320GB HDD, WebCam, 3GB RAM, and X4500 supports DXVA for h.264/avc (what sealed the deal for me). BTW, that ULV 1.3ghz processor is not as slow as one might think. It's built off Intel's Merom class, Has 2MB cache (3MB in the case of the SU3500 and a 100mhz speed bump), and is 5-10w TDP. More than capable for general purpose and vista runs fast plus Win7 upgrade is included when it hits stores. Just make sure to remove all the Acer bloatware.
I sold a unibody 2008 macbook just to pick up another one of these (other one is with wife)
yup... benefits of netbook w/o the crappy resolution, has larger screen, and much better processor (SUs smoke Atom), more RAM, etc. 14" is the sweet spot IMO, because inc. DVD Drive, a must for me cognizant of the DXVA capabilities.
Amazon followed suit and dropped price to $509 which is better than $499.99 + tax. Though if you can get $450, I say go for it!
It would be really nice if Amazon credited me the price difference as I just ordered a short while ago. They are a great company, but would be a lot better with their price change guarantee.
Hey OP, what happens if you refuse shipment from them? They credit you automatically or do they try to resend? I've always wondered...
Don't get confuse with Staples's as4810t. This is not a good deal. Staples B&M is still selling the as4810t-8480 for $499+tax which have faster cpu, Higher memory, and bigger hard drive. I'll take that deal over this any day.
hakujin said: yup... benefits of netbook w/o the crappy resolution, has larger screen, and much better processor (SUs smoke Atom), more RAM, etc. 14" is the sweet spot IMO, because inc. DVD Drive, a must for me cognizant of the DXVA capabilities.
Netbooks have their place though. I definitely appreciate mine for taking notes in class and when I'm traveling for only the weekend. I'm itching to pick one of these up though. My gf and I have been hooking up a laptop to her TV to watch steaming episodes online but something with HDMI would be soooo much better.
BTW your user name makes me think of F&F Tokyo Drift when the main character first gets to Japan and everyone is calling him a foreigner in Japanese
hakujin said: yup... benefits of netbook w/o the crappy resolution, has larger screen, and much better processor (SUs smoke Atom), more RAM, etc. 14" is the sweet spot IMO, because inc. DVD Drive, a must for me cognizant of the DXVA capabilities.
Amazon followed suit and dropped price to $509 which is better than $499.99 + tax. Though if you can get $450, I say go for it!
It would be really nice if Amazon credited me the price difference as I just ordered a short while ago. They are a great company, but would be a lot better with their price change guarantee.
Hey OP, what happens if you refuse shipment from them? They credit you automatically or do they try to resend? I've always wondered...
I talked to Amazon csr and they would not match the price. What they suggested is refuse the shipment and ask UPS/FedEx to return the package to sender. They will credit the amount back to your account after receiving the returned item.
After reading the posts here, I am having second thoughts if I would really like this laptop. Thanks for all the posts!
This particular Acer Aspire Timeline is a wonderfully designed machine with a single serious flaw.
The 4810T is sold with many different Intel CPUs. And in this case, the SU2700 (was the 723) is the very slowest offered. Even the SU2300 is noticeably faster, and newer.
Do not buy this computer without trying it in person. Barely usable with Vista. Might be acceptable using XP or System 7.
Look for an AS4810 with an Intel SU2300, SU3500, SU4100, SU7300 or an SU9xxx. Sometimes slower is OK, but the SU2700 matched with VISTA is not OK.
With SU2700 I know some people downgrade to XP just to get little better performance. Go with the 4810T-8484 (SU3500) if you can or downgrade to XP might be a option.
This particular Acer Aspire Timeline is a wonderfully designed machine with a single serious flaw.
The 4810T is sold with many different Intel CPUs. And in this case, the SU2700 (was the 723) is the very slowest offered. Even the SU2300 is noticeably faster, and newer.
Do not buy this computer without trying it in person. Barely usable with Vista. Might be acceptable using XP or System 7.
Look for an AS4810 with an Intel SU2300, SU3500, SU4100, SU7300 or an SU9xxx. Sometimes slower is OK, but the SU2700 matched with VISTA is not OK.
That's a factually incorrect statement. The difference between su2700 and su3500 is extremely negligible (only 100mhz bump and 1 extra MB cache). Now if you can get it for same price as this one (as someone suggest, I have yet to check Staples), then go for it. But Amazon wanted an extra hundred and that is NOT worth it. As far as su2300 the http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42779, less cache, slower speed, but 2 cores... they seem to both be based on Penryn. I don't see the huge difference you seem to be referring to, except that there aren't any 4810s with SU2300 so might as well compare SU2700 to I7 Quad.
If you don't find it quick, never mind usable in Vista, you (or store) didn't remove the crapware that comes preinstalled and/or have the problem than many have talked about in relation to the some of the drivers or bios causing cpu spikes, that can be remedied with updates.
I have THIS computer runnning Vista Ultimate and for all general purposes, it runs as fast, if not faster than my wife's previous Vaio Core 2 Duo (1.73ghz) for which it replaced. She uses it for school, and plays some games on it (Plants vs Zombies anyone?!)... absolutely loves it, as do I for it it's HD playback capability lightness, etc. I would never think of downgrading to xp on it and am looking forward to 7!
I had my reservations too on the 1.3ghz wondering if it were up to the task of decoding h/x.264 because I wasn't for sure if the integrated graphics would support offload, but it does that find as well, up to 720p. But x4500 handles 1080p, no prob.
On a side note, if you live in U.S. good luck finding a 4810 with su9400 in it. I found one vendor a couple of weeks ago and the price was too obscene, definitely not worth it.
kevinatwsi said: Don't get confuse with Staples's as4810t. This is not a good deal. Staples B&M is still selling the as4810t-8480 for $499+tax which have faster cpu, Higher memory, and bigger hard drive. I'll take that deal over this any day.LINK? I see no 4810 whatsoever on Staples website so maybe ymmv from store to store? I'll def. check it out as that's an even sweeter deal.
S105dude said: hakujin said: yup... benefits of netbook w/o the crappy resolution, has larger screen, and much better processor (SUs smoke Atom), more RAM, etc. 14" is the sweet spot IMO, because inc. DVD Drive, a must for me cognizant of the DXVA capabilities.
Netbooks have their place though. I definitely appreciate mine for taking notes in class and when I'm traveling for only the weekend. I'm itching to pick one of these up though. My gf and I have been hooking up a laptop to her TV to watch steaming episodes online but something with HDMI would be soooo much better.
BTW your user name makes me think of F&F Tokyo Drift when the main character first gets to Japan and everyone is calling him a foreigner in Japanese I agree on netbooks, I was being too judgemental; they definitely have their place. And yup hakujin means foreigner.
This particular Acer Aspire Timeline is a wonderfully designed machine with a single serious flaw.
The 4810T is sold with many different Intel CPUs. And in this case, the SU2700 (was the 723) is the very slowest offered. Even the SU2300 is noticeably faster, and newer.
Do not buy this computer without trying it in person. Barely usable with Vista. Might be acceptable using XP or System 7.
Look for an AS4810 with an Intel SU2300, SU3500, SU4100, SU7300 or an SU9xxx. Sometimes slower is OK, but the SU2700 matched with VISTA is not OK.
That's a factually incorrect statement. The difference between su2700 and su3500 is extremely negligible (only 100mhz bump and 1 extra MB cache). Now if you can get it for same price as this one (as someone suggest, I have yet to check Staples), then go for it. But Amazon wanted an extra hundred and that is NOT worth it. As far as su2300 the http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42779, less cache, slower speed, but 2 cores... they seem to both be based on Penryn. I don't see the huge difference you seem to be referring to, except that there aren't any 4810s with SU2300 so might as well compare SU2700 to I7 Quad.
If you don't find it quick, never mind usable in Vista, you (or store) didn't remove the crapware that comes preinstalled and/or have the problem than many have talked about in relation to the some of the drivers or bios causing cpu spikes, that can be remedied with updates.
I have THIS computer runnning Vista Ultimate and for all general purposes, it runs as fast, if not faster than my wife's previous Vaio Core 2 Duo (1.73ghz) for which it replaced. She uses it for school, and plays some games on it (Plants vs Zombies anyone?!)... absolutely loves it, as do I for it it's HD playback capability lightness, etc. I would never think of downgrading to xp on it and am looking forward to 7!
I had my reservations too on the 1.3ghz wondering if it were up to the task of decoding h/x.264 because I wasn't for sure if the integrated graphics would support offload, but it does that find as well, up to 720p. But x4500 handles 1080p, no prob.
On a side note, if you live in U.S. good luck finding a 4810 with su9400 in it. I found one vendor a couple of weeks ago and the price was too obscene, definitely not worth it.
kevinatwsi said: Don't get confuse with Staples's as4810t. This is not a good deal. Staples B&M is still selling the as4810t-8480 for $499+tax which have faster cpu, Higher memory, and bigger hard drive. I'll take that deal over this any day.LINK? I see no 4810 whatsoever on Staples website so maybe ymmv from store to store? I'll def. check it out as that's an even sweeter deal.
the deal is in Staples B&M not Staples.com. Should be nationwide; called a local store and have them check surrounding area. The staff can transfer the unit to your local store.
I have the 3810tz with the su2700 (13.3" and 4GB). Didnt use vista at all so I cant say how fast or slow it is, I immediatly installed windows7 which runs perfectly....really quick. I was apprehensive about the slow CPU before I bought mine but it is totally fine. It crawls a bit when I run photoshop a bunch of firefox windows, a chrome window, and itunes all at once, and if you run other apps while watching movies (I only watch DIVx so cant comment on higher res formats) the movie might stutter a couple times but seriously...this thing is super thin, super light, the screen is great and I got it for under 500 bucks?? (TigerDirect 550 with 12.5% bing CashBack and 20 dollar paypal credit).
It does everything I could want it to. No regrets at all....
oic. well, maybe I'll pick that one up for myself then. could use two of these. but not worth the hassle of replacing my wife's 1.3ghz as the difference is very, very little and it certainly holds its own. LOVE THIS NOTEBOOK. if it were a Sony, they'd charge twice as much. Might go with the 3810 with SU9400 dual core for myself though...
so... same price between 4810tz su2700 and su3500, definitely get the 1.4ghz (goes w/o saying).
Any more than $60-70 difference between the 4810 su2700/3500 variants, not worth it, IMO. I think the extra GB of RAM (effective 4GB) has no utility, more so on Windows 7 than Vista.Would like 4810 w/ the SU9400, but it seems like they don't even make that variant anymore, at least in the U.S. There's also a 4810 w/ dual vid (ATI and Intel), but again overseas. There's a long thread on this notebook in notebookreview.com for anyone that's interested... Intel's ULV line is updating this fall so maybe some new versions on the way!
hakujin said: yus9 said: This particular Acer Aspire Timeline is a wonderfully designed machine with a single serious flaw..... the SU2700 matched with VISTA is not OK.
That's a factually incorrect statement. The difference between su2700 and su3500 is extremely negligible....
Nice well-informed response. Especially because you have personal experience with the SU2700 CPU. Some folks can make this machine work well-enough. No doubt.
About the new low-end Intel SU2300 DualCore... Its just becoming available, so there are only a few surprising benchmarks online. A user posted "the SU 2300 scored 769 on Passmark CPU test" at NetBookReview. This compares to 474 for the SU3500, and around 380 for the 723 / SU2700 CPUs.
I find that one interesting. It has 2 cores, and a TDP of 10watts, so why do they call it celeron? Celeron in the past has been synonymous with power savings/stepping features being removed so decreased battery life. But I would imagine with a low TDP and being a ULV, it would be alright. It also has 2 more advanced technologies, according to Intel. Intel Virtualization and Thermal monitor 2. Maybe due to 1MB less cache on the 2300...
I'll have to check those benchmarks and compare to my su2700.
edit: don't see the su2700... any idea where it rates on that column?
This particular Acer Aspire Timeline is a wonderfully designed machine with a single serious flaw.
The 4810T is sold with many different Intel CPUs. And in this case, the SU2700 (was the 723) is the very slowest offered. Even the SU2300 is noticeably faster, and newer.
Do not buy this computer without trying it in person. Barely usable with Vista. Might be acceptable using XP or System 7.
Look for an AS4810 with an Intel SU2300, SU3500, SU4100, SU7300 or an SU9xxx. Sometimes slower is OK, but the SU2700 matched with VISTA is not OK.
That's a factually incorrect statement. The difference between su2700 and su3500 is extremely negligible (only 100mhz bump and 1 extra MB cache). Now if you can get it for same price as this one (as someone suggest, I have yet to check Staples), then go for it. But Amazon wanted an extra hundred and that is NOT worth it. As far as su2300 the http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42779, less cache, slower speed, but 2 cores... they seem to both be based on Penryn. I don't see the huge difference you seem to be referring to, except that there aren't any 4810s with SU2300 so might as well compare SU2700 to I7 Quad.
If you don't find it quick, never mind usable in Vista, you (or store) didn't remove the crapware that comes preinstalled and/or have the problem than many have talked about in relation to the some of the drivers or bios causing cpu spikes, that can be remedied with updates.
I have THIS computer runnning Vista Ultimate and for all general purposes, it runs as fast, if not faster than my wife's previous Vaio Core 2 Duo (1.73ghz) for which it replaced. She uses it for school, and plays some games on it (Plants vs Zombies anyone?!)... absolutely loves it, as do I for it it's HD playback capability lightness, etc. I would never think of downgrading to xp on it and am looking forward to 7!
I had my reservations too on the 1.3ghz wondering if it were up to the task of decoding h/x.264 because I wasn't for sure if the integrated graphics would support offload, but it does that find as well, up to 720p. But x4500 handles 1080p, no prob.
On a side note, if you live in U.S. good luck finding a 4810 with su9400 in it. I found one vendor a couple of weeks ago and the price was too obscene, definitely not worth it.
kevinatwsi said: Don't get confuse with Staples's as4810t. This is not a good deal. Staples B&M is still selling the as4810t-8480 for $499+tax which have faster cpu, Higher memory, and bigger hard drive. I'll take that deal over this any day.LINK? I see no 4810 whatsoever on Staples website so maybe ymmv from store to store? I'll def. check it out as that's an even sweeter deal.
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