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I remember the white van speakers. Guy says, "my boss gave me 6 pairs. But I was invoiced for 6 speakers. I'll sell you 2 for $350." I laughed so hard. I said, "I'm a police officer, and I would like to see his boss." He was speechless.
DealRaider said:thank you for pooping. hope you can afford a toilet someday.
somehow, i don't think cardboard speakers weigh 60lbs each.Who said anything about cardboard? I said they were white van speakers, aka garbage. But since you brought up cardboard... Typical speaker cabinets are made from MDF, medium density fiberboard. MDF is cheap, MDF is heavy. 3/4" MDF (the thinnest MDF any respectable cabinet would be made out of) can weigh about 3lb per square foot. These speaker cabinets are about 18 square feet of area, which means the cabinets alone could weigh 53 pounds. So they could have 7lbs of speaker drivers and crossover components, etc. Not exactly impressive by weight alone, if you're going to try to use that to judge a speaker, which you shouldn't.
Found a review here (at the bottom of the page). Not bad at all, was about $500. ----------------------------------------------------- http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.salonav.com/arch/2003/11/030-043.htm&ei=VkLhSv-RIsie8AbewpnoAQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CDcQ7gEwCTgK&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddac%2B2.6%2Bunisound%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-USfficial%26hs%3Dtis%26sa%3DN%26start%3D10
Thisismatt said:DealRaider said:thank you for pooping. hope you can afford a toilet someday.
somehow, i don't think cardboard speakers weigh 60lbs each.Who said anything about cardboard? I said they were white van speakers, aka garbage. But since you brought up cardboard... Typical speaker cabinets are made from MDF, medium density fiberboard. MDF is cheap, MDF is heavy. 3/4" MDF (the thinnest MDF any respectable cabinet would be made out of) can weigh about 3lb per square foot. These speaker cabinets are about 18 square feet of area, which means the cabinets alone could weigh 53 pounds. So they could have 7lbs of speaker drivers and crossover components, etc. Not exactly impressive by weight alone, if you're going to try to use that to judge a speaker, which you shouldn't.
why would anyone build a good cabinet only to use cheap components? cabinet quality is a good indicator of quality elsewhere. anyway, brand name alone does not guarantee quality (take polk for instance). there are many little advertised companies making quality products, like TheSpeakerCompany, for example. sorry if these aren't the mortgage-the-house speakers you normally buy. they're $100 for pete's sake. no way you're going to get B&W quality. don't damn something unless you know from direct experience. so, piss off, yeah?
Message edited by: DealRaider on 2009-10-23 01:15:33 CDT
DealRaider said:Thisismatt said:DealRaider said:thank you for pooping. hope you can afford a toilet someday.
somehow, i don't think cardboard speakers weigh 60lbs each.Who said anything about cardboard? I said they were white van speakers, aka garbage. But since you brought up cardboard... Typical speaker cabinets are made from MDF, medium density fiberboard. MDF is cheap, MDF is heavy. 3/4" MDF (the thinnest MDF any respectable cabinet would be made out of) can weigh about 3lb per square foot. These speaker cabinets are about 18 square feet of area, which means the cabinets alone could weigh 53 pounds. So they could have 7lbs of speaker drivers and crossover components, etc. Not exactly impressive by weight alone, if you're going to try to use that to judge a speaker, which you shouldn't.
why would anyone build a good cabinet only to use cheap components? cabinet quality is a good indicator of quality elsewhere. anyway, brand name alone does not guarantee quality (take polk for instance). there are many little advertised companies making quality products, like TheSpeakerCompany, for example. sorry if these aren't the mortgage-the-house speakers you normally buy. they're $100 for pete's sake. no way you're going to get B&W quality. don't damn something unless you know from direct experience. so, piss off, yeah?
So you have direct experience with these speakers, instead of just posting a perceived deal you found, and can therefore make a determination of nice or not nice? And what is the definition of nice here?
FWIW: Unisound Production Inc is a private company categorized under Speakers' Bureau and located in Alhambra, CA. It was established in 1988 and incorporated in California. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $360,000 and employs a staff of approximately 5. They have been in business for 21 years so that has to say something.
Vetterin said:FWIW: Unisound Production Inc is a private company categorized under Speakers' Bureau and located in Alhambra, CA. It was established in 1988 and incorporated in California. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $360,000 and employs a staff of approximately 5. They have been in business for 21 years so that has to say something.Pyle, Pyramid, etc garbage audio brands have been around for decades as well. Ignorant people will buy lousy products until they know better.
Got to admit it seems fishy. Thingfling is located in New Jersey* and has free shipping on this item.
So, if someone from say Hawaii buys these you can be sure the shipping will be around $80 at least, even using a slow system which they are reputed to do. Factor in the cost and what have you got left? Nothing, or negative.
Arguing against myself now, they do have nice ratings on resellerratings.com. One of the highest average scors I've seen, with nearly a thousand reviews.
* Home of "The Sopranos", as they themselves point out.
Vetterin said:FWIW: Unisound Production Inc is a private company categorized under Speakers' Bureau and located in Alhambra, CA. It was established in 1988 and incorporated in California. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $360,000 and employs a staff of approximately 5. They have been in business for 21 years so that has to say something.
Is Speakers' Bureau for maker of speakers or their members make speeches for a fee?
If the $360,000 is pure profit for the year, each emplyee will make $72000 a year including taxes and benefits. Can you hire an audio engineer, an electrical enginner for $72K? I don't think so.
JimsEmptyWallet said:Vetterin said:FWIW: Unisound Production Inc is a private company categorized under Speakers' Bureau and located in Alhambra, CA. It was established in 1988 and incorporated in California. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $360,000 and employs a staff of approximately 5. They have been in business for 21 years so that has to say something.
Is Speakers' Bureau for maker of speakers or their members make speeches for a fee?
If the $360,000 is pure profit for the year, each emplyee will make $72000 a year including taxes and benefits. Can you hire an audio engineer, an electrical enginner for $72K? I don't think so.
KACKI said:Got to admit it seems fishy. Thingfling is located in New Jersey* and has free shipping on this item. ThingFling trades at the local computer shows as "EEI / The Closeout Guys." They've been selling their wares at shows for as long as I can remember and are very honest. They even allow returns with a receipt which my friend has done on a few occasions.
Most of the things they sell at the computer shows are also available on ThingFling at one point or another. However, I've never seen these speakers in person.
Most of the stuff they sell is junk, but there are hidden gems here and there.
KACKI said:JimsEmptyWallet said:Vetterin said:FWIW: Unisound Production Inc is a private company categorized under Speakers' Bureau and located in Alhambra, CA. It was established in 1988 and incorporated in California. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $360,000 and employs a staff of approximately 5. They have been in business for 21 years so that has to say something.
Is Speakers' Bureau for maker of speakers or their members make speeches for a fee?
If the $360,000 is pure profit for the year, each emplyee will make $72000 a year including taxes and benefits. Can you hire an audio engineer, an electrical enginner for $72K? I don't think so.
Revenue <> profit
I understand revenue is not profit. I am making a point that a company can't designs good speakers without enough income to keep engineers on board.
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