Pioneer KURO KRP-500M 50" HD Plasma (same build as Elite models) $1549.18 + Free Wall Mount + Free Shipping!
Thought I would post this as these are getting low in supply and I could not find another thread here for this model and it's even cheaper now! Stock will be limited soon on these. For those not in the knowing this is one of the best Pioneer HD Plasma sets available before they stopped production. The KRP-500M was a special model monitor that shares the same components as the Pioneer KURO Signature Elite models.
The only downside on these is no built in HD tuner, no stand and 2 HDMI connections instead of 4. If you are running a 5.1 / 7.1 receiver that has HDMI switching then this is not a deal breaker anyways. Also most would have a cable or satellite box for the HD reception as well.
I just picked this up and the picture is phenomenal! Once calibrated this is hands down one of the best sets I have ever seen! Black levels are very deep.
Here is a huge thread discussion on this guy! >> Link
Grab it here for $1549.18 + Free Wall Mount + Free Shipping = Abes of Maine
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posted: Oct. 28, 2009 @ 10:53a
bakerzdosen
Broke Member
posted: Oct. 28, 2009 @ 11:50a
aztecsurf said: The only downside on these is no built in HD tuner, no stand and 2 HDMI connections instead of 4.As a side note, it does have one DVI input (with HDCP) as well. So, if you're looking to hook up an HTPC as one of your inputs, that may solve your issue. Personally, I'd have an HTPC to DVI, IPTV/Cable tuner, and Blu-ray/PS3 for my digital inputs, so that'd work out nicely.
The lack of an ATSC tuner isn't huge for me either - especially with my Mac Mini and eyetv.
I'm gonna have to give this one some thought as you can get a 50" G15 for just over $1k. Thanks for the heads up.
might want to note that the item is basically a "monitor only" in the title... NOOB!!!! lol!!! j/k! BTW why the heck aren't you at work??? Kevin misses you a lot and is going to be lonely at lunch today. i guess i'll have to man up and try to "fill" your spot.. hahahah how is your swine flu treating you?
Sorry for a noob question. Can someone tell me a "perfect" solution for the HDMI ports? This will be my first time building a HT. I will have the following HDMI devices:
1. HD cable box with HDMI out 2. Xbox 360 with HDMI out 3. (maybe)TiVo with HDMI out 4. Blueray player with HDMI out 5. A PC with HDMI out
So how exactly do I connect all of these devices to 2 HDMI ports without losing any quality? I assume some sort of receiver will be used (which will also be used to connect speakers)? Any recomendations for such a receiver? Also I assume all the audio from the TV programs and Xbox etc will be played through my HT speakers?
start, imo, the best thing to do would be to get a receiver with as many HDMI "In's" as possible. also, it depends on how much $$$ you gots to spend. right now, i have almost the same setup as you. cable box (DVR), 360, ps3 and mac mini. all going "in" the receiver and 1 output to the tv. i was on a budget so i went with the str-g(SP?) 820 from Sony.... that had 4 HDMI inputs..... correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think there is a receiver on the market with 5 inputs... at that point you'll probably have to start adding switchers and stuff...
oh, i also recommend getting an all-in-one remote.... it WILL make your HT much more enjoyable.... i think there are AIOR now that can control the PS3.
johndoan1
Broke Member
posted: Oct. 28, 2009 @ 1:41p
startover said: Sorry for a noob question. Can someone tell me a "perfect" solution for the HDMI ports? This will be my first time building a HT. I will have the following HDMI devices:
1. HD cable box with HDMI out 2. Xbox 360 with HDMI out 3. (maybe)TiVo with HDMI out 4. Blueray player with HDMI out 5. A PC with HDMI out
So how exactly do I connect all of these devices to 2 HDMI ports without losing any quality? I assume some sort of receiver will be used (which will also be used to connect speakers)? Any recomendations for such a receiver? Also I assume all the audio from the TV programs and Xbox etc will be played through my HT speakers?
Your best bet is a HDMI switch (example: Monoprice 4x1 HDMI Switch 1.3b. This will be the easiest fix. Or you could go with a receiver with HDMI switches, but then you'd deal with more power usage for a simple task.
aztecsurf said: Pioneer KURO KRP-500M 50" HD Plasma (same build as Elite models) $1549.18 + Free Wall Mount + Free Shipping!
I just picked this up and the picture is phenomenal! Once calibrated this is hands down one of the best sets I have ever seen! Black levels are very deep.
do you hire someone to calibrated it for you or you do it by yourself? i have read some but there are too much information to calibrated by self
Thanks for the quick answers. Since I'll need a reciever anyway, I can just get a receiver that has 4 HDMI inputs and everything will go through the receiver then into TV, right? So with this setup I don't lose any video quality since HDMI is digital I assume? Also the audio signals will be processed directly at the receiver then into amp/speakers?
Basically, a receiver with HDMI switching will "smartly" separate the audio signal from video signal, pass the video signal directly to the TV for 1080P display and process the audio signal for amp/speakers output. Is this how it works?
Since the TV has no speakers (and I don't want to use TV speakers even if the TV had them anyway) and I want the audio from my HDMI devices to go through my HT speakers, how can the switch work? I mean the HDMI outputs from Xbox/Cablebox/Blueray etc will carry *both* video and audio signals right? If I plug them into the switch, then switch to TV, how can the audio be played?
Too bad "Abe's of Maine" is REALLY "Abe's of New Joisey" so you have to pay 7% tax. They shudda styed in Maine (if they were ever there to begin with).
HDMI carries both audio and video signals. yes, the receiver "smartly" separates. video to tv and audio to "out" on receiver.
with the switch, it works the same way, its just that you are switching sources that goes into your receiver instead of all sources being plugged into it. there is no signal loss, unless you have defective hardware or your source (ie xbox, cable box etc...) experiences data loss/drops....... i don't use the speakers from my TV also... i just mute the tv.
oh, i wanted to add. MONOPRICE is the SH!t!!! excellent quality with rock bottom prices. i ALWAYS order from them for my audio/video needs. .. Don't be a tool and go out and buy a $10000000 monster HDMI cable when a $5 shipped to your door one from monoprice will more than be enough.
startover said: Sorry for a noob question. Can someone tell me a "perfect" solution for the HDMI ports? This will be my first time building a HT. I will have the following HDMI devices:
1. HD cable box with HDMI out 2. Xbox 360 with HDMI out 3. (maybe)TiVo with HDMI out 4. Blueray player with HDMI out 5. A PC with HDMI out
So how exactly do I connect all of these devices to 2 HDMI ports without losing any quality? I assume some sort of receiver will be used (which will also be used to connect speakers)? Any recomendations for such a receiver? Also I assume all the audio from the TV programs and Xbox etc will be played through my HT speakers?
My recommendation: HD Cable > Component TiVo > Composite PC > PC (either the DVI+HDCP or PC+StereoMini) XBOX > HDMI BluRay > HDMI
Or as mentioned get an [autoswitching] HDMI switching system, or get a stereo receiver with the HDMI functionality you need.
If there's no audio out on that TV that can go to your current stereo then I would go with the new receiver option to run all your feeds through for switching and audio handling.
I just ordered the TV. I've been having my eyes on these for a while and finally decided to pull the trigger. I don't think they'll go much lower before all the stocks run out.
It amazes me that Pioneer, a traditionally audio-only company decided to make TV's, and made the best ones in the world out of the box. Then almost 2 years after they stopped making them, other companies have yet to come up with something that really rival their quality. I wonder exactly what the secret is here.
raccah1
Member
posted: Oct. 28, 2009 @ 2:51p
Hey guys, I have been reading that if you hook up an HTPC to this display (Vista or Win7) that it does not display correctly because the modes do not have a real resolution 1080p (1900x1080)? Is this true? How did you get around this? I want to be able to plug this into my ATI 2600 Pro card without scaling in anyway.
Also, are you guys afraid that Pioneer is out of this plasma business? What happens if it breaks and is not fixable, what will we get back if we buy a warranty?
raccah1 said: Hey guys, I have been reading that if you hook up an HTPC to this display (Vista or Win7) that it does not display correctly because the modes do not have a real resolution 1080p (1900x1080)? Is this true? How did you get around this? I want to be able to plug this into my ATI 2600 Pro card without scaling in anyway.
Also, are you guys afraid that Pioneer is out of this plasma business? What happens if it breaks and is not fixable, what will we get back if we buy a warranty?
Thanks!
Pioneer warranty on these guys is one year standard. The issue may be if they run out of parts but I dont think that would happen anytime soon.
startover said: It amazes me that Pioneer, a traditionally audio-only company decided to make TV's, and made the best ones in the world out of the box. Then almost 2 years after they stopped making them, other companies have yet to come up with something that really rival their quality. I wonder exactly what the secret is here. Actually, Pioneer has been in the TV business since (at least) the early 90s; however, most of their sets (RPTV all, IIRC) were more expensive than comparable sets from other manufacturers, so you wouldn't see them at mass market retailers.
buy it. you will not regret it. i picked up the 60" 600m earlier this year for about 2x this price...blew my entertainment budget for the next two years but it was so worth it.
Wow, I didn't realize that it's not an authorized Pioneer dealer. Does that mean this TV I just bought from the Abe's does not have factory warranty? I tried to call them but they're currently closed.
No guarantees, but I was under the impression that it was only the Elite line that needed to be purchased from an authorized reseller; for everything else, they'll honor the receipt from anywhere...
You'd probably be better off calling Pioneer and asking about warranty coverage. Or check the website.
agentpt5
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Oct. 28, 2009 @ 7:23p
raccah1 said: Hey guys, I have been reading that if you hook up an HTPC to this display (Vista or Win7) that it does not display correctly because the modes do not have a real resolution 1080p (1900x1080)? Is this true? How did you get around this? I want to be able to plug this into my ATI 2600 Pro card without scaling in anyway.
KRP-500M is native 1080p resolution. I hook my KRP-500M to a MythTV box (Linux, Nvidia graphic card, Intel dual core, etc). The Nvidia driver identifies the KRP-500M as Pioneer-M monitor. I am pretty sure that computer is sending RGB 0-255 signal to the Pioneer Plasma. I am pretty sure that the Pioneer Plasma properly identifies the signal as RGB 0-255. The color is stunning and the black is very very black. Even inputing RGB 0-255, this monitor has better black than virtually all other TVs and monitors.
My KRP-500M is calibrated to RGB 16-235, so it will probably be even better when Nvidia releases new driver. I came across this thread regarding RGB color correction. You may want to take a look at it, but I don't think it matters to KRP-500M
my understanding is that these discount sellers ARE NOT 'authorized' to sell it- this means you stand a reasonable chance of having zero warranty-pioneer can be strict in this. I'm usually not a fan of an extended warranty but in this case, if you buy unauthorized, I would buy an extended warranty (squaretrade, etc) or else you could left out in the cold if something breaks in a few months. Additionally, shipping can be an issue with these- they have gotten better but broken screens isn't unheard of- check the shipment. I just got a new krp-500m (it is as incredible as they claim!) and got it from valueelectronics. It's one of the cheapest authorized sources to get these at- it was $1800 for the monitor, shipped. Considering that an unauthorized dealer is around 1550 + 200 for warranty= 1750, I opted to go with an authorized dealer for a little more-used my AMEX for double warranty. Plus, they are very reputable (not sure about the others) and know how to ship it well, can provide pre and post sale support with techs that know stuff, etc. Check out avsforum for more info.
chbak014 said: start, imo, the best thing to do would be to get a receiver with as many HDMI "In's" as possible. also, it depends on how much $$$ you gots to spend. right now, i have almost the same setup as you. cable box (DVR), 360, ps3 and mac mini. all going "in" the receiver and 1 output to the tv. i was on a budget so i went with the str-g(SP?) 820 from Sony.... that had 4 HDMI inputs..... correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think there is a receiver on the market with 5 inputs... at that point you'll probably have to start adding switchers and stuff...
oh, i also recommend getting an all-in-one remote.... it WILL make your HT much more enjoyable.... i think there are AIOR now that can control the PS3.
Exactly, these are monitors and meant to integrate into home theater setups.
startover said: Wow, I didn't realize that it's not an authorized Pioneer dealer. Does that mean this TV I just bought from the Abe's does not have factory warranty? I tried to call them but they're currently closed.
Can someone confirm the warranty issue?
From everything I have read I have never seen anyone get their warranty denied.
HoMeZ
Greedy Member
posted: Oct. 28, 2009 @ 8:48p
What do I have to buy if I want to use the wire that comes from my antenna that is on the top of my roof to watch TV? USA switched to digital broadcasting for regular TV and I don't watch much TV to warrant paying for cable or satellite.
HoMeZ
Greedy Member
posted: Oct. 28, 2009 @ 8:49p
iatacs19 said: startover said: Wow, I didn't realize that it's not an authorized Pioneer dealer. Does that mean this TV I just bought from the Abe's does not have factory warranty? I tried to call them but they're currently closed.
Can someone confirm the warranty issue?
From everything I have read I have never seen anyone get their warranty denied.
Have you read about people trying to use their warranty?
HoMeZ said: What do I have to buy if I want to use the wire that comes from my antenna that is on the top of my roof to watch TV? USA switched to digital broadcasting for regular TV and I don't watch much TV to warrant paying for cable or satellite. You'll need to get some sort of TV receiver - an HD TiVo or an HTPC with an ATSC card, for example. A Voom (discontinued satellite service) box, available cheap on eBay, will also do the trick.
HoMeZ said: iatacs19 said: startover said: Wow, I didn't realize that it's not an authorized Pioneer dealer. Does that mean this TV I just bought from the Abe's does not have factory warranty? I tried to call them but they're currently closed.
Can someone confirm the warranty issue?
From everything I have read I have never seen anyone get their warranty denied.
Have you read about people trying to use their warranty?
what's your point?
HoMeZ
Greedy Member
posted: Oct. 28, 2009 @ 9:03p
Hey iatacs19,
Sorry if that came off as an attack, but I was just asking if read of anyone trying to use their warranty.
Sorry if that came off as an attack, but I was just asking if read of anyone trying to use their warranty.
Go to avsforum.com they have many threads dedicated to Pioneer plasmas with tons of info. But to answer your question people have had warranty service performed without issues.
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