I spent hours looking for the best deal on a rifled barrel and scope for my 870 shotgun...
This is by far the best deal out there for this setup! $168.00 for a rifled shotgun barrel with a scope is a steal!! Plus you can have them ship it to your local WalMart for FREE if they don't carry it in stock.
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posted: Oct. 29, 2009 @ 12:42p
jmackdaddy
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 29, 2009 @ 12:46p
Says OOS online? Maybe they only had one- the one you just bought.
Anyway I don't understand the idea of a scope on a shotgun - I thought you used shotguns to spray a large area as opposed to being accurate with a single bullet?
If you want to shoot slugs (one large bullet instead of multiple shot) you'll do better with a rifled barrel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slug_barrel
blaster668
Member
posted: Oct. 29, 2009 @ 1:06p
This is a rifled barrel for firing one single slug, this combination is good out to about 100yds. Some states and areas only allow shotguns for deer season, this is the ideal setup in those places.
jmackdaddy said: Says OOS online? Maybe they only had one- the one you just bought.
Anyway I don't understand the idea of a scope on a shotgun - I thought you used shotguns to spray a large area as opposed to being accurate with a single bullet?
Many of us in populous states are restricted from using a centerfire rifle during deer season. A shotgun with a rifled barrel and sabot slugs are usually legal and the best we're allowed. A scope definitely helps when shooting slugs, and that's all you'd shoot through a rifled shotgun barrel. "Spraying" shot is done with a smoothbore.
jmackdaddy said: Says OOS online? Maybe they only had one- the one you just bought.
Anyway I don't understand the idea of a scope on a shotgun - I thought you used shotguns to spray a large area as opposed to being accurate with a single bullet?
States such as Illinois have shotgun only deer seasons... by shotgun I mean you use slugs not bird or buck shot. So the rifled barrel is much more accurate than smooth bore barrels...especially with sabot slugs .
Burchoid
Member
posted: Oct. 29, 2009 @ 1:10p
Dang, they had some just a little bit ago. I ordered mine a few days ago and it just got delivered today.
Read some of the product reviews on the WalMart website!
You can get 3" groups at 100 yards with a shotgun and a rifled barrel with sabot slugs.
Some areas you can't hunt with a rifle and you have to use a shotgun or a bow.
Plus a shotgun slug has a ton of knockdown power vs many of the deer rifle cartridges.
I'm letting my wife use my deer rifle this year and I'm using the shotgun.
anyone else think it is funny that mossberg is making a barrel for an 870
HarvesterOfBeer
Member
posted: Oct. 29, 2009 @ 2:26p
jmackdaddy said: Anyway I don't understand the idea of a scope on a shotgun - I thought you used shotguns to spray a large area as opposed to being accurate with a single bullet?
As you can see, the shot pattern, even from a cylinder bore, doesn't spread out very quickly. At ranges you'd typically find in self-defense or combat situations the core of the shot pattern is going to be inches across, not feet.
Shotguns are NOT area effect weapons. You still need to aim them carefully if you want them to do their job.
tante said: anyone else think it is funny that mossberg is making a barrel for an 870
They have done it for many years. The 870 is the most customized shotgun in history, with just about conceivable barrel grip, stock, sights, magazine extension, etc available for it. There are lots of aftermarket parts for it.
Note that this barrel is a Mossberg product, not Remington OEM. Also note the blued vs parkerized finish if you are pairing this with an 870 express (parkerized) versus wingmaster (blued).
Also, one other thing to consider... to optimally use a rifled shotgun you will probably want to start shooting Sabot Slugs ($12-$30 a box usually) versus rifled slugs at $5 a box. You CAN shoot rifled slugs in a rifled barrel however lead fouling is going to be a lot worse than out of a smoothbore barrel so be prepared to invest more time cleaning after every outing.
You may be as well served by buying a $35 rifled choke tube from Carlson's and sticking with rifled slugs for the most cost effective option. I used a scope on my 870 for a while and ended up preferring the less expensive and shorter 20" Remington rifled barrel with iron sights to a cantilever scope if you ever need to make a close shot.
If anyone needs a scope on a shotgun to shoot deer 100 yds or less, they need to practice shooting more and drop the scope. I have an 870 express and have used sabots and regular slugs, and have never failed to bag Bambi, if I've had a shot.
grasswhacker said: If anyone needs a scope on a shotgun to shoot deer 100 yds or less, they need to practice shooting more and drop the scope. I have an 870 express and have used sabots and regular slugs, and have never failed to bag Bambi, if I've had a shot.
You shoot with your iron sights and I'll shoot with a zeroed in scope. I bet I'll have tighter groupings at 100 yards.
Burchoid
Member
posted: Oct. 30, 2009 @ 12:30a
yuppiejr said: Good price - seems to have been selling for around $175 most places but out of stock, get it while you can!
Note that this barrel is a Mossberg product, not Remington OEM. Also note the blued vs parkerized finish if you are pairing this with an 870 express (parkerized) versus wingmaster (blued).
Also, one other thing to consider... to optimally use a rifled shotgun you will probably want to start shooting Sabot Slugs ($12-$30 a box usually) versus rifled slugs at $5 a box. You CAN shoot rifled slugs in a rifled barrel however lead fouling is going to be a lot worse than out of a smoothbore barrel so be prepared to invest more time cleaning after every outing.
You may be as well served by buying a $35 rifled choke tube from Carlson's and sticking with rifled slugs for the most cost effective option. I used a scope on my 870 for a while and ended up preferring the less expensive and shorter 20" Remington rifled barrel with iron sights to a cantilever scope if you ever need to make a close shot.
CORRECTION
The barrel in this kit has the MATTE finish, not the shiny blued finish. It matches the finish on my new 870.
BrianC said: grasswhacker said: If anyone needs a scope on a shotgun to shoot deer 100 yds or less, they need to practice shooting more and drop the scope. I have an 870 express and have used sabots and regular slugs, and have never failed to bag Bambi, if I've had a shot.
You shoot with your iron sights and I'll shoot with a zeroed in scope. I bet I'll have tighter groupings at 100 yards.
I don't need a tight grouping when I shoot Bambi, just 1 slug in the heart or lungs will do fine. Targets don't fill the freezer.
grasswhacker said: BrianC said: grasswhacker said: If anyone needs a scope on a shotgun to shoot deer 100 yds or less, they need to practice shooting more and drop the scope. I have an 870 express and have used sabots and regular slugs, and have never failed to bag Bambi, if I've had a shot.
You shoot with your iron sights and I'll shoot with a zeroed in scope. I bet I'll have tighter groupings at 100 yards.
I don't need a tight grouping when I shoot Bambi, just 1 slug in the heart or lungs will do fine. Targets don't fill the freezer.
So you'd prefer a less accurate gun and a 'lucky' shot as apposed to a well placed, accurate shot? Tighter groupings=better accuracy=more shots hitting the animal where you intended.
Not sure you're making much sense with your ramblings about targets and freezers.
Burchoid said: grasswhacker said: BrianC said: grasswhacker said: If anyone needs a scope on a shotgun to shoot deer 100 yds or less, they need to practice shooting more and drop the scope. I have an 870 express and have used sabots and regular slugs, and have never failed to bag Bambi, if I've had a shot.
You shoot with your iron sights and I'll shoot with a zeroed in scope. I bet I'll have tighter groupings at 100 yards.
I don't need a tight grouping when I shoot Bambi, just 1 slug in the heart or lungs will do fine. Targets don't fill the freezer.
So you'd prefer a less accurate gun and a 'lucky' shot as apposed to a well placed, accurate shot? Tighter groupings=better accuracy=more shots hitting the animal where you intended.
Not sure you're making much sense with your ramblings about targets and freezers.
No luck needed, if you know how to shoot . At 100 yards or less, if you need a scope on a shotgun, your skills are lacking IMO. As a matter of fact I've never seen anybody hunt deer with a scope, unless it's on a rifle for longer distances 200+ yards. Then you might need an aid to make up for lack of skills.
Sorry guy, I'm not buying any of this. I don't wish to join a piXXing contest, but I hunted in the southern half of Michigan for years, where in deer season you could not use a rifle. Lots of people used shotguns and more than half had scopes. I didn't and I wish I did. There are some great optical sites for shotguns, designed specifically for a longer eye relief and slugs. They are very effective and in all but the closest shots, superior to open sites.
grasswhacker said: Burchoid said: grasswhacker said: BrianC said: grasswhacker said: If anyone needs a scope on a shotgun to shoot deer 100 yds or less, they need to practice shooting more and drop the scope. I have an 870 express and have used sabots and regular slugs, and have never failed to bag Bambi, if I've had a shot.
You shoot with your iron sights and I'll shoot with a zeroed in scope. I bet I'll have tighter groupings at 100 yards.
I don't need a tight grouping when I shoot Bambi, just 1 slug in the heart or lungs will do fine. Targets don't fill the freezer.
So you'd prefer a less accurate gun and a 'lucky' shot as apposed to a well placed, accurate shot? Tighter groupings=better accuracy=more shots hitting the animal where you intended.
Not sure you're making much sense with your ramblings about targets and freezers.
No luck needed, if you know how to shoot . At 100 yards or less, if you need a scope on a shotgun, your skills are lacking IMO. As a matter of fact I've never seen anybody hunt deer with a scope, unless it's on a rifle for longer distances 200+ yards. Then you might need an aid to make up for lack of skills.
dogmeat said: Sorry guy, I'm not buying any of this. I don't wish to join a piXXing contest, but I hunted in the southern half of Michigan for years, where in deer season you could not use a rifle. Lots of people used shotguns and more than half had scopes. I didn't and I wish I did. There are some great optical sites for shotguns, designed specifically for a longer eye relief and slugs. They are very effective and in all but the closest shots, superior to open sites.
grasswhacker said: Burchoid said: grasswhacker said: BrianC said: grasswhacker said: If anyone needs a scope on a shotgun to shoot deer 100 yds or less, they need to practice shooting more and drop the scope. I have an 870 express and have used sabots and regular slugs, and have never failed to bag Bambi, if I've had a shot.
You shoot with your iron sights and I'll shoot with a zeroed in scope. I bet I'll have tighter groupings at 100 yards.
I don't need a tight grouping when I shoot Bambi, just 1 slug in the heart or lungs will do fine. Targets don't fill the freezer.
So you'd prefer a less accurate gun and a 'lucky' shot as apposed to a well placed, accurate shot? Tighter groupings=better accuracy=more shots hitting the animal where you intended.
Not sure you're making much sense with your ramblings about targets and freezers.
No luck needed, if you know how to shoot . At 100 yards or less, if you need a scope on a shotgun, your skills are lacking IMO. As a matter of fact I've never seen anybody hunt deer with a scope, unless it's on a rifle for longer distances 200+ yards. Then you might need an aid to make up for lack of skills.
Hey, if you need something to help you hit the targeted animal, because you cannot use an open sight, go for it. But I have never seen a hunter use a scope on a shotgun, since they are for close targets of 120 yards or less. Maybe I just hang around those who have more shooting skills. Lived in Howell for several years.
Enough chest beating gents, this is a good price on a nice option to add to an existing shotgun and if somebody chooses to add a scope to their gun to increase odds of a clean kill shot more power to them. There certainly is a place for a scoped shotgun in deer hunting particularly for people with poor eyesight or when longer shots from elevated platforms/stands are common. That said, for those looking for a first deer barrel for their 870 I'd suggest looking at the 24" Mossberg fully rifled barrel with rifle sights here: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/46585-1.html . At $122 + freight it's a heck of a value.. and you can always buy one of the $20 Weaver "no gunsmithing required" saddle mounts and throw a quality scope/rings on later if you want to glass out your 870.
The improved accuracy with a scope comes at the cost of extra weight, possibility of fogging or failure (inexpensive scopes tend to be more prone to this) in cold/wet weather and may be less desirable for those who hunt in heavy woods or cold weather while driving deer when you tend to take closer range shots. I have not recommended scoped shotguns to newer hunters because it tends to also create a sense of tunnel vision in which the shooter is less aware of objects around/behind their prey in their limited field of vision which can present a danger to others. For an experienced shotgun hunter that doesn't already have a scoped/rifled barrel combo for their 870 this is a great value for a special purpose setup compared to it's usual retail price.
>I have not recommended scoped shotguns to newer hunters because it tends to also create a sense of tunnel vision in which the shooter is less aware of objects around/behind their prey in their limited field of vision which can present a danger to others. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Very true.
hbfishing
New Member
posted: Nov. 17, 2009 @ 5:18p
Still Out Of Stock. I'm looking for something like this and am real cost sensitive. Looks like a nice deal.
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