Saw these at Dedham, MA clearanced at $19.99 (see update below) from the original of $26.99 which was already a good deal. As always, Costco clearance is most often store specific. However, it's worth checking your own store if you are there anyway. Currently $34.91 on Amazon
Costco item # 373064
Update: Confirmed (Dedham, MA only, other stores YMMV) that the price has dropped to $14.99 as of 11/19/2009
Message edited by: Bibba on 2009-11-19 17:26:45 CST
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Great deal. Picked up one at normal price and thought that was a good deal.
I ahve noticed these piling up at several costcos. Sadly people don't really know what these are for or how to use them. I've bought and offered them to people, but it's not a very exciting topic for people I guess....
Yes people don't realize that a $20 investment can give you thousands in saving in few years, by selecting energy efficient product and unpluging others. Like the people that buy the Magic Jack over the Ooma and don't put in the equation the energy cost. Anybody knows if there is a version of this for 220V (to send to my parents overseas)?
Message edited by: sombec on 2009-11-09 14:47:59 CST
sombec said:Yes people don't realize that a $20 investment can give you thousands in saving in few years, by selecting energy efficient product and unpluging others. Like the people that buy the Magic Jack over the Ooma and don't put in the equation the energy cost. Anybody knows if there is a version of this for 220V (to send to my parents overseas)?
I'm pretty sure that there is a 220V Kill-a-Watt. Just not at Costco.
For those who have used this...what devices have you found to be worth unplugging when not in use? There are certain things that I use frequently enough that it would be more hassle than it's worth to plug in before each use, but there are some things that could be worth it (used less frequently). I'd love to hear some actual experiences in using this, the changes you've made and the savings you've gained from doing so.
Seeing how much power my computer is actually using has been helpful for me. I now choose parts based on the power they use instead of their overall speed and have cut my computer's power usage in half over a couple years' worth of upgrades.
Chuck101 said:Seeing how much power my computer is actually using has been helpful for me. I now choose parts based on the power they use instead of their overall speed and have cut my computer's power usage in half over a couple years' worth of upgrades.
Hey Chuck, I'd chose speed over power consumption any day!
soarwitheagles said:Chuck101 said:Seeing how much power my computer is actually using has been helpful for me. I now choose parts based on the power they use instead of their overall speed and have cut my computer's power usage in half over a couple years' worth of upgrades.
Hey Chuck, I'd chose speed over power consumption any day!
BTW, is your last name Green?
Soar
Well, Chuck could say that he could be faster and dumber or slower and smarter and he chooses the latter. Just because he cut his power consumption doesn't necessarily make him Green. Does your fast computer run at 100% capacity all day long? If no, think about the money you are wasting for all the time the computer is using less than 100% of the fast resources in it.
Houston Willowbrook has a ton of these. Sadly, they are at the regular $26.50 or whatever. Maybe they'll be on clearance by Thursday, when I leave for ten days.
One surprise with my Killawatt was my Bose RadioWave it was using 15 Watt when it was off. Now I have it with a power strip with a switch.
Other big surprise for me was the difference or non difference in power consumption between Fans. A big Fan can use 80 to 120 Watts a small fan can use 60 to 80 Watts but it only moves a third of the air, big fans are much more efficient. Also the the low speed uses almost the same energy than the high speed. So a big size fan at high speed is the most efficient.
LCD Tvs in the brightest setting use almost twice the energy than in less brighter setting. I have most of my Tvs in the middle setting, not too dim for daylight and not that bright for the night. If you have a TV that adjust the brightest on its own is great feature.
I agree....... my sound system uses around 15 watts off, and radios all use lots of watts off.
I also notice my HD Sat box use the same amount of watts on or off.
LCD TV is the same.....more bright=more power
and some LED bulbs I bought... use more watts than the Mfg. lable suggests(almost double).
overall my refrigerator uses the most energy...around $10 a month according to the the Kill-A-Watt.
sombec said:One surprise with my Killawatt was my Bose RadioWave it was using 15 Watt when it was off. Now I have it with a power strip with a switch.
Other big surprise for me was the difference or non difference in power consumption between Fans. A big Fan can use 80 to 120 Watts a small fan can use 60 to 80 Watts but it only moves a third of the air, big fans are much more efficient. Also the the low speed uses almost the same energy than the high speed. So a big size fan at high speed is the most efficient.
LCD Tvs in the brightest setting use almost twice the energy than in less brighter setting. I have most of my Tvs in the middle setting, not too dim for daylight and not that bright for the night. If you have a TV that adjust the brightest on its own is great feature.
To put some dollar figures to the quoted numbers: 15W constantly is 11 kWh/month. Since I use more than the 'baseline' amount, my marginal cost for power is in the 35-45 cents per kWh (California). This adds up to $50 a year-- just to have a freakin' radio plugged in!
sombec said:Yes people don't realize that a $20 investment can give you thousands in saving in few years, by selecting energy efficient product and unpluging others. Like the people that buy the Magic Jack over the Ooma and don't put in the equation the energy cost. Anybody knows if there is a version of this for 220V (to send to my parents overseas)?
What are you saying here? Oh, I get it, you're saying that people with a MagicJack need to leave their PC on 24/7. Yeah, I guess you have a point there.
SelfGovern said:Houston Willowbrook has a ton of these. Sadly, they are at the regular $26.50 or whatever. Maybe they'll be on clearance by Thursday, when I leave for ten days.
19.99 is a great price on the P4460. However, I don't really see the big advantage of the P4460 over the P4400. As far as I know, the primary advantage is it calculates the costs from the KWH usage, whereas the original unit gives you the KWH usage and lets you do the multiplication.
I too was surprised to find that my PC speakers consume probably 6-7 watts when off, and 14 watts when on (while not in use). Compared to about 1-2 watts on both my computer and monitor when off. The two biggest problems are that you often don't know how much something consumes until after you buy it since the information is rarely published (or published accurately) and the corollary is that you rarely know what a reasonable amount of consumption is. I was able to use it to help reduce my power consumption on my computer and figure out how much power my fridge and other large appliances were using.
It can also Calculates cost and forecasts by week, month and year...
hpmax said:19.99 is a great price on the P4460. However, I don't really see the big advantage of the P4460 over the P4400. As far as I know, the primary advantage is it calculates the costs from the KWH usage, whereas the original unit gives you the KWH usage and lets you do the multiplication.
I too was surprised to find that my PC speakers consume probably 6-7 watts when off, and 14 watts when on (while not in use). Compared to about 1-2 watts on both my computer and monitor when off. The two biggest problems are that you often don't know how much something consumes until after you buy it since the information is rarely published (or published accurately) and the corollary is that you rarely know what a reasonable amount of consumption is. I was able to use it to help reduce my power consumption on my computer and figure out how much power my fridge and other large appliances were using.
If you think that is surprising, I figured out that my Tripp Lite power bar/surge protector consumes 4 watts even with nothing plugged in (however, it goes to zero when it is switched off). So, a little tip: turn off those surge protectors even though the devices plugged in are off.
hpmax said:I too was surprised to find that my PC speakers consume probably 6-7 watts when off, and 14 watts when on (while not in use).
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