i am just chanting "restraint, restraint, restraint, no i dont want to buy it now, i dont need it, the nighbours r going to ruin it anyways if u turn up the amp to any decent hearing level, speakers to go with this baby will put me back another 700-800 bucks at the least",
jeez great deal, I just bought this like 2 months ago and its fabulous. I waited so long until I found a good receiver that small price tag that switched hdmi sources nicely, this was it. I just hate when I see these nice deals that I didnt get when I bought mine At this price with the ipod dock its a no brainer.
I absolutely need wireless surround capability. Is that something that sometimes comes with the receiver or can it be added on later? Trying to talk myself out of buying this.
I almost got it but it is missing one critical feature I need. I have separates (power amp, processor, dvd player, tuner etc). I need a receiver that can take HDMI from Bluray and other sources and then decode it and output all the 7.1 channels signals, so I can connect the output to a power amp. Unfortunately, this receiver does not provide decoded signals for all the channels. The only choice is to connect the speakers directly to this receiver. I have a mid-fi power amp that outputs 300w/channel and the power output of this Onkyo is no match for that. i don't want to connect my high-end speakers to this receiver and waste the power amp.
I almost bet you won't find this any cheaper unless its a refurb.
phony said: There seems to be more and more receiver deals coming during the holiday season. Should I wait for another better deal, or go with this one?
The ipod dock is compatible only with 1G and 2G itouch ... does anyone has experience with itouch 3G?
lonesoui
New Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2009 @ 10:28a
vambupayyan said: The ipod dock is compatible only with 1G and 2G itouch ... does anyone has experience with itouch 3G?
Where did you get this information? Because it states on the specification page: "Supported iPods: iPhone 3G, iPhone, iPod touch (1st and 2nd Generations), iPod classic, 4th Generation iPod with Click Wheel, 5th Generation iPod with Video, iPod photo, iPod mini, iPod nano (1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Generations)"
It doesn't do 1080p upscaling. Is that necessarily a bad thing? Wouldn't I want that for a 1080p TV? I was listening to Robert Heron talk about how using an external video processor such as an A/V receiver can help eliminate those long pauses when the TV has to switch resolutions depending on the signal. I'm looking for an A/V receiver that will output a 1080p signal and upscale everything to that resolution. I only have a 720p TV right now, but I plan on replacing it within 2 years.
killme2 said: It doesn't do 1080p upscaling. Is that necessarily a bad thing? Wouldn't I want that for a 1080p TV? I was listening to Robert Heron talk about how using an external video processor such as an A/V receiver can help eliminate those long pauses when the TV has to switch resolutions depending on the signal. I'm looking for an A/V receiver that will output a 1080p signal and upscale everything to that resolution. I only have a 720p TV right now, but I plan on replacing it within 2 years.
What is your input source resolution?
Take a look at the specs for the receiver; if your source is 1080P, I bet that the 607 can pass that through and does not downconvert to 720.
And I'll bet that any new television you buy will upconvert to 1080P just fine; TV upconverters are getting better.
("scaling" is technically stretching or squeezing the picture; "conversion" is changing from one signal format to another (480i to 720P or 1080I or P).
If you're worried, consider the HT-RC180, available refurb at... I think it was Accessories4Less (maybe 6Ave) for $600... which will upscale, I believe.
I am currently looking for a new receiver and am trying to decide on whats best. I was looking at the Pioneer 7-Channel A/V Receiver VSX-919AH-K . Is this Onkyo deal a better way to go? I am looking for thoughts. Thanks
The only comparison I could find was a Pioneer VSX-1019 and Onkyo TX-SR607. Not much write-ups on the 919. Hope this helps some. Link
scoogie said: I am currently looking for a new receiver and am trying to decide on whats best. I was looking at the Pioneer 7-Channel A/V Receiver VSX-919AH-K . Is this Onkyo deal a better way to go? I am looking for thoughts. Thanks
lonesoui said: vambupayyan said: The ipod dock is compatible only with 1G and 2G itouch ... does anyone has experience with itouch 3G?
Where did you get this information? Because it states on the specification page: "Supported iPods: iPhone 3G, iPhone, iPod touch (1st and 2nd Generations), iPod classic, 4th Generation iPod with Click Wheel, 5th Generation iPod with Video, iPod photo, iPod mini, iPod nano (1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Generations)"
tpatana
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2009 @ 2:22p
Someone help me out here, I cannot decide should I buy this or not, and there's few features I'm not sure about and couldn't find the answer from any of the review. So someone who owns the device or knows enough, please help. My current amp is Onkyo from HTIB (the 790-set) which does almost everything already, but not the HDMI switching, upconversion or HD-audios.
The thing is, I have lot of different sources, and my projector is native 720p but also accepts 1080p24. Based on that, I should have all my sources outputting 720p60 if possible, but BluRay should be 1080p24 when possible as that'll eliminate the 3:2 jitter.
I have 4 HDMI sources, 1: BD-player (720p60 or 1080p24 depending on content), 2: cable box (720p60 always), 3: Xbox360 (720p60) and 4: HDDVD-player (720p60 as it's the cheap model without 1080p24 output)
Then I have 2 component sources, 5: Wii (480i) and 6: Philips DVD-player (480i or 720p when content allows)
So the questions:
Someone at the Newegg-reviews said that the HDMI and component inputs overlap and cannot be necessarily selected properly if both are used. (Question1) Can someone confirm this? The component inputs are names "CBL/SAT" and "DVD/BD", which are same as HDMI inputs 3 and 1. As I need 4 HDMI inputs (unless I keep my existing HDMI-switch, which would be stupid imho), I must use at least one of those and thus I would have 2 inputs under same name. I have the Harmony remote, so I could program it to shut down the overlapping source when the other is selected, would that be enough that the amp can select the correct video&audio?
To clarify question1 with an example, most likely I'd have the HDDVD-player on the HDMI input 3, and then the Philips DVD-player on the component input "CBL/SAT" with optical audio, (correction after reviewing the back panel, neither of optical input names match with the component inputs), I'd have to use the coax input for CBL/SAT for the DVD-player. The player has both, so that's ok, although I'd prefer the optical (for no reason really, they both work 100% identical. Some people claim there's sound quality difference, well,... some people are nuts. They are both digital signals, hello?). So when I power up everything normally for HDDVD-setup (thus leaving the Philips DVD off), I'm assuming the amp recognizes the HDMI input and acts accordingly. Then when I select Philips DVD-mode and leave the HDDVD off, does the amp recognize the component video from dvd-player and also the coax audio properly?
(Question2) Furthermore, can I set the upscaling options separate for both of those inputs? Someone at the Newegg reviews mentioned you can make the settings for each inputs, but the HDDVD and DVD would be the same input at some level, can I set the HDMI input3 to only pass through (no upscaling as the source is 720p60) and for the component to upscale to 720p (when the source is at 480i)? If not, can I set both for pass through? That'd be fine for the dvd play, as the projector does pretty good job at upscaling from 480i to 720p anyway. (Question3) Can I set the output setting for that port just simply for 720p60, and then the HDDVD would be pass through, and the Philips dvd would be upconverted?
(Question4) Can I select video and audio sources separately? Like in the example above, could I still use the optical with the dvd player at component input? E.g. select CBL/SAT component for video and then GAME for optical audio?
Sorry for long text, but it's a bit complicated question so I tried to make it as clear as possible. If someone could answer those, I'd really appreciate that. I'm still weighting the options of the upgrade, should I go for it or not.
So far what I think would change is:
-I get HD audio for BD and HDDVD sources -I get upscaling for Wii and Philips DVD
and minor changes which don't really affect anything picture or audio -wise -Get rid of the external HDMI-switch -Get rid of the external video/component/optical -switch -Get rid of the component and composite-video cables running to projector (which I'd still leave there as no reason to remove them)
For the minor changes, it'd be nice to get rid of extra equipment and couple of cables, but as it's already set up, it's no big deal. Also for the upscale for Wii and DVD, that's no biggie as the projector does the upscaling pretty good already. So basically my only real improvement would be the HD-audios for BD and HDDVD content. Is that worth the price tag? With my current speakers the answer is easy, no. But I'm planning to upgrade those also some day, so... And I don't have ipod/iphone yet, but I'm also looking to get the 3rd gen iTouch, and the docking station specifications explicitly mentions it supports 1st and 2nd gen iTouch, so does that translate that it doesn't support the 3rd gen, or is it just old text from the time when 3rd didn't exist?
from what i rem in the menus you have to define the hdmi and component inputs in the setup and i dont THINk you can define both to the same input...not 100% on that but i had the wii setup as component and connected and game was defined to hdmi and i had no pic. when i went in a defined component to game and removed it from the hdmi config it worked fine
tpatana
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2009 @ 2:31p
JamesD1343 said: from what i rem in the menus you have to define the hdmi and component inputs in the setup and i dont THINk you can define both to the same input...not 100% on that but i had the wii setup as component and connected and game was defined to hdmi and i had no pic. when i went in a defined component to game and removed it from the hdmi config it worked fine
I see. Would be a real bummer if it really supports only max 5 sources without configuring the input setting each time I want to change the input type.
Those of you that have this already: does this receiver get as hot as folks say it does? I've been leaning towards the Denon 1910 because of this...
snow1angel
Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2009 @ 5:10p
I dove in! Thanks OP
kondahills
Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2009 @ 5:19p
Poineer 1019 consumes 350W power while ONKYO is rated at around ~540W. I assume based on the power consumption, ONKYO will be definitely hotter. Look for the power ratings for Denon
of course i just paid ~350 for the HT-RC160...argh to return or not to...monoprice speakers only take 80w RMS so the HT-RC160 might be a better solution anyway. I just hope the monoprice speakers sound good.
tpatana
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2009 @ 6:51p
kondahills said: Poineer 1019 consumes 350W power while ONKYO is rated at around ~540W. I assume based on the power consumption, ONKYO will be definitely hotter. Look for the power ratings for Denon
I wonder where you got the 540W. I measured my old Onkyo 7x110W amp with Kill-A-Watt, and volume at zero with all 7 channels on -mode I measured 60W consumption. Then I turned the volume way up, much more than is useful for anyone not deaf (or wanting to become one), I measured <70W, again with all 7 channels booming.
kondahills
Member
posted: Nov. 14, 2009 @ 7:44p
tpatana said: kondahills said: Poineer 1019 consumes 350W power while ONKYO is rated at around ~540W. I assume based on the power consumption, ONKYO will be definitely hotter. Look for the power ratings for Denon
I wonder where you got the 540W. I measured my old Onkyo 7x110W amp with Kill-A-Watt, and volume at zero with all 7 channels on -mode I measured 60W consumption. Then I turned the volume way up, much more than is useful for anyone not deaf (or wanting to become one), I measured <70W, again with all 7 channels booming.
Direct from manuals: Pioneer receivers are rated at 350W. Onkyo does not give power for US models & other countries that use 120V and specifies 5.5A AC current. For 230V countries, power rating specified as 550W
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ropesguru
New Member
posted: Dec. 15, 2009 @ 2:48p
Just wanted to post that Newegg.com has the receiver on their website for $359.99, I just bought mine yesterday for $379.99. Not the best, but not the worst price out there. Also with free shipping and no tax.
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