I read the egg comment that asks Why are people opting to put their OS on these? With constant registry writes, swap files, loggin-you're trading speedy boots for drastically reduced life. Especially considering this is MLC (not SLC). SSD's have limited writes, and and an OS is constantly making small writes!
How much validity is there to this?
fylbert
New Member
posted: Jan. 19, 2010 @ 8:57a
Ummmmm, 1,200,000hrs mean time between failure, and mlc write cycle potential is nothing to sneeze at, with the wear balancing and all, such mlc drive would require over ~30gb of read/write a day to fail in 50 years, but the idea is to dump the video and other big files on a cheaper disk drive and keep space free for your page file etc
Intel's engineers thought about this problem and designed around it. Extra DRAM and such gives it very low write amplification (how many 'writes' it needs to do to write data to the drive). There is also reserved capacity not in use that can be used when you hit the actual end of the lifespan.
Intel documents say at least 5 years of usage at 20gb/day. One person that's monitoring the SMART status of their SSD showed an expected 15-16 years of life.
They also have the OCZ Vertex 120gb for $349 (after MIR). I haven't been tracking prices of SSD's but heard flash memory prices have been increasing. Is that a good/decent price at all?
DShaw94
Member
posted: Jan. 19, 2010 @ 9:42a
Would swapping out a 2.5hdd on a netbook with this significantly help battery life?
scaper said: I read the egg comment that asks Why are people opting to put their OS on these? With constant registry writes, swap files, loggin-you're trading speedy boots for drastically reduced life. Especially considering this is MLC (not SLC). SSD's have limited writes, and and an OS is constantly making small writes!
How much validity is there to this?That "reviewer" does not even own one and thinks a review board is equal to a forum. Would not give much credit to his expertise on the topic. Btw, people still use swap files?
ketamine said: scaper said: I read the egg comment that asks Why are people opting to put their OS on these? With constant registry writes, swap files, loggin-you're trading speedy boots for drastically reduced life. Especially considering this is MLC (not SLC). SSD's have limited writes, and and an OS is constantly making small writes!
How much validity is there to this?That "reviewer" does not even own one and thinks a review board is equal to a forum. Would not give much credit to his expertise on the topic. Btw, people still use swap files?
the reviewer over there on Newegg is a certified moron for sure.
but yeah; page files happen even in windows 7, and swap partitions are what make the linux world go round
goat6500 said: Would swapping out a 2.5hdd on a netbook with this significantly help battery life?
While it would help, it's not going to help that much — especially if you have an 5400rpm drive that turns off with no activity. Modern hard drives only use a few watts when active. The screen and chipset uses much more.
Regarding to power saving on a netbook, the faster read time should help with faster booting and waking up from hibernation, so it can also indirectly save your battery life by making you wait less. That said, yeah, there is usually only one incremental upgrade to any laptop that can significantly help battery life, and that's a bigger battery.
Other than size I'm not getting why peopel are buying this over the 30gb OCZ vertex deals. The Vertex's have overall higher write and read from what I remember. Are people just confusing these with the more expensive SLC drives and Intel name ?
nchan50 said: They also have the OCZ Vertex 120gb for $349 (after MIR). I haven't been tracking prices of SSD's but heard flash memory prices have been increasing. Is that a good/decent price at all?
Edit: I have the Agility which is faily close in performance.
Mine was $234 after rebates / CashBack. This was shortly before Windows 7 retail availability last year as I know from previous OS lunches that RAM and Hard Drive purchases increase when there is a new OS (so there can be shortages and prices go up) so I jumped then (I also got an extra 4Gb of DDR2 at the time before it became really difficult to find and $$$).
I have watched the SSD prices increase since then. It is anyones guess when they will come down again, my *guess* is that you may get the $250 for 120Gb price again by the end of the 2010.
msoyer
New Member
posted: Jan. 19, 2010 @ 5:41p
I got one last week for ~$110 after BCB and It is really fast ...
scaper said: I read the egg comment that asks Why are people opting to put their OS on these? With constant registry writes, swap files, loggin-you're trading speedy boots for drastically reduced life. Especially considering this is MLC (not SLC). SSD's have limited writes, and and an OS is constantly making small writes!
How much validity is there to this?
Pretty sure that person is confusing LIFE SPAN with the performance hit that SSD's take after use and filling them up (another reason not to go small with these imo). TRIM helps with this issue by slowing down the process, but it still happens, until you wipe the drive and start over. Having said that, even the slowest current gen SSD's in their low performance, used state, blow the fastest consumer hard drives out of the water.
jvarszegi
New Member
posted: Feb. 28, 2010 @ 10:30a
lzpoof said: Other than size I'm not getting why peopel are buying this over the 30gb OCZ vertex deals. The Vertex's have overall higher write and read from what I remember. Are people just confusing these with the more expensive SLC drives and Intel name ?
Advantages of the Intel: 1. Slightly cheaper 2. Bigger capacity (and the difference is significant enough to make the X25-V much more suitable for a single netbook / ultraportable drive, especially on Windows 7) 3. Much lower power consumption (2 watts+ difference), which will have a noticeable impact on battery life, though of course not a huge one
Those are the big ones. So for the owner of a netbook or cheaper/older laptop, the Intel is a much better buy, considering that even with its somewhat poor write times it will still far outperform a hard disk.
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