I will pass no new laws! I will also stay in my current residence for the entire term and never leave except for medical reasons or if it catches fire or some other reason like that, then I will move to another house nearby. No communication will be made to anyone (Yes, even the secret service) except for on this thread as President for my entire term as President of The United States of America.
HumDoHamaraDo said: FrugalFreak said: HumDoHamaraDo said: The Unemployment numbers today were pretty good. What does that mean for the election.
nothing. seasonal workers, it'll go back up. we need good jobs, not 2 or 3 month only min wage jobs. You know they are seasonally adjusted, right? The same agencies are using the same methods to come up with these numbers, not new methods being used by this administration.
Many more jobs are going to part-time, temp and seasonal workers... so, unlike years ago where those unemployment numbers included more permanent full-time workers... today's numbers include many more part-time, temp and seasonal workers... who might have a job today, but very well might not have one 90 days from now.
Unemployment numbers don't really address those who are underemployed (used to work 40 hrs making $50K and now make $25K)... or the seasonally employed (like me )
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Cyborg for President!!!The Governator isn't eligible to become president since he's not a naturalized citizen
Simple question: If one does not have Health Insurance and their Employer does not provide one, and they make an average of $50K per year, what should they do if they get sick?
HumDoHamaraDo said: Simple question: If one does not have Health Insurance and their Employer does not provide one, and they make an average of $50K per year, what should they do if they get sick?
HumDoHamaraDo said: Simple question: If one does not have Health Insurance and their Employer does not provide one, and they make an average of $50K per year, what should they do if they get sick? If you are single you could afford a plan, here in MA a family making that amount would get free or highly subsidized plan
HumDoHamaraDo said: Simple question: If one does not have Health Insurance and their Employer does not provide one, and they make an average of $50K per year, what should they do if they get sick?
Depending on how many other people are living on that $50K... they can probably afford individual health insurance...
I don't know of many people making $50K whose jobs don't supply insurance of some sort (no matter how badly it sucks)... unless they are contract workers or freelance (issued a 1099-MISC and have to file a Schedule C when filing their taxes).
HumDoHamaraDo said: Simple question: If one does not have Health Insurance and their Employer does not provide one, and they make an average of $50K per year, what should they do if they get sick?
If they are making $50,000 a yr, can they not buy into an independent group plan? How about a grandmother who is working part time at WalMart and she and husband are barely above the poverty level and neither employer offers insurance since they are part timers, what should they do?
joyrae said: HumDoHamaraDo said: Simple question: If one does not have Health Insurance and their Employer does not provide one, and they make an average of $50K per year, what should they do if they get sick?
Depending on how many other people are living on that $50K... they can probably afford individual health insurance...
I don't know of many people making $50K whose jobs don't supply insurance of some sort (no matter how badly it sucks)... unless they are contract workers or freelance (issued a 1099-MISC and have to file a Schedule C when filing their taxes). PRN nurses with no guarantee of getting *any* hours who make the gamble.
mewhojen said: joyrae said: HumDoHamaraDo said: Simple question: If one does not have Health Insurance and their Employer does not provide one, and they make an average of $50K per year, what should they do if they get sick?
Depending on how many other people are living on that $50K... they can probably afford individual health insurance...
I don't know of many people making $50K whose jobs don't supply insurance of some sort (no matter how badly it sucks)... unless they are contract workers or freelance (issued a 1099-MISC and have to file a Schedule C when filing their taxes). PRN nurses with no guarantee of getting *any* hours who make the gamble.
But isn't PRN considered more like contracting?? Not really an employee of the hospital? Don't get the same benefits as those employed by the hospital?
I know that those working PRN make more money (many of the nurses that I know choose PRN because of the flexibility and the additional hourly wage)...
That's the trade off and also the gamble (and, yes... it stinks... if we had nationwide health care for everyone... then this wouldn't be an issue ((oh hell, did I just broach that subject???)) )
But isn't PRN considered more like contracting?? Not really an employee of the hospital? Don't get the same benefits as those employed by the hospital?
I know that those working PRN make more money (many of the nurses that I know choose PRN because of the flexibility and the additional hourly wage)...
That's the trade off and also the gamble (and, yes... it stinks... if we had nationwide health care for everyone... then this wouldn't be an issue ((oh hell, did I just broach that subject???)) ) PRN: one flat elevated wage. Ability to use 401K. Group life insurance. NO other benefits. But yes, direct employee of the hospital, not employee of an agency (who would provide benefits )
If a family of 4 has a household income of $50K with no insurance and they don't live under Romneycare in MA, how can they afford private/independent crappy insurance of $10K per year?
HumDoHamaraDo said: If a family of 4 has a household income of $50K with no insurance and they don't live under Romneycare in MA, how can they afford private/independent crappy insurance of $10K per year? They hope like heck nobody gets sick & utilizes the Quick Care @ Walgreens for school physicals or when their lacking common sense 14 year old boy weeds the ditch in shorts and doesn't identify poison ivy and doesn't wash the blisters requiring steroids and antibiotics costing $250 total for the visit in one 15 minute trip.
HumDoHamaraDo said: If a family of 4 has a household income of $50K with no insurance and they don't live under Romneycare in MA, how can they afford private/independent crappy insurance of $10K per year?
I know a family of 5 living on $19,ish a year, sure it can be done.
HumDoHamaraDo said: If a family of 4 has a household income of $50K with no insurance and they don't live under Romneycare in MA, how can they afford private/independent crappy insurance of $10K per year? They can't, that is why I am for some type of plan/fix, but Obamacare is not the right one
HumDoHamaraDo said: If a family of 4 has a household income of $50K with no insurance and they don't live under Romneycare in MA, how can they afford private/independent crappy insurance of $10K per year? By paying 10K for it. A 2 bedroom apartment would cost $15k...20k max. 2 Bedrooms apartment is big enough for a family of 4. Insurance would cost $10k. They would still have atleast $20k left over to pay for whatever they want.. over $1500 a month.
RS4Rings said: HumDoHamaraDo said: If a family of 4 has a household income of $50K with no insurance and they don't live under Romneycare in MA, how can they afford private/independent crappy insurance of $10K per year? They can't, that is why I am for some type of plan/fix, but Obamacare is not the right one But better than anything else out there or any other proposal being offered by anyone so far...right or left wing. Obamacare, while not perfect is a big step in the right direction.
KayK said: HumDoHamaraDo said: If a family of 4 has a household income of $50K with no insurance and they don't live under Romneycare in MA, how can they afford private/independent crappy insurance of $10K per year? By paying 10K for it. A 2 bedroom apartment would cost $15k...20k max. 2 Bedrooms apartment is big enough for a family of 4. Insurance would cost $10k. They would still have atleast $20k left over to pay for whatever they want.. over $1500 a month.
But then they couldn't afford that new car or vera wang purses or vacations every 6 months.
My plan for a family of 3 is about $17k, and it's not even a great plan since even with us all relatively healthy I spend about another $3k a year meeting deductibles and co payments. So I can just imagine the out of pocket costs on a $10k family plan
KayK said: HumDoHamaraDo said: If a family of 4 has a household income of $50K with no insurance and they don't live under Romneycare in MA, how can they afford private/independent crappy insurance of $10K per year? By paying 10K for it. A 2 bedroom apartment would cost $15k...20k max. 2 Bedrooms apartment is big enough for a family of 4. Insurance would cost $10k. They would still have atleast $20k left over to pay for whatever they want.. over $1500 a month. According to the Dept of Human Services, children cannot share a room unless they are of the same gender. Thus, a family of 4 could mean a 2 bedroom with Mom or dad sleeping on the couch and the kids having their own rooms. Doable, yes, nice, no.
FrugalFreak said: KayK said: HumDoHamaraDo said: If a family of 4 has a household income of $50K with no insurance and they don't live under Romneycare in MA, how can they afford private/independent crappy insurance of $10K per year? By paying 10K for it. A 2 bedroom apartment would cost $15k...20k max. 2 Bedrooms apartment is big enough for a family of 4. Insurance would cost $10k. They would still have atleast $20k left over to pay for whatever they want.. over $1500 a month.
But then they couldn't afford that new car or vera wang purses or vacations every 6 months. Somebody has been taking my vacations!
mewhojen said: According to the Dept of Human Services, children cannot share a room unless they are of the same gender.If that is true, that's the most B.S. rule I have ever heard. Wow.
ETA: My family lived in a 1 bedroom apartment for the first 5 years we were here in US.. When we left that apartment, I was 19 and sis was 21.
HumDoHamaraDo said: RS4Rings said: HumDoHamaraDo said: If a family of 4 has a household income of $50K with no insurance and they don't live under Romneycare in MA, how can they afford private/independent crappy insurance of $10K per year? They can't, that is why I am for some type of plan/fix, but Obamacare is not the right one But better than anything else out there or any other proposal being offered by anyone so far...right or left wing. Obamacare, while not perfect is a big step in the right direction. Since Romney wanted to make changes in healthcare do you think he would just totally scrap Obamacare? I don't think so,
KayK said: mewhojen said: According to the Dept of Human Services, children cannot share a room unless they are of the same gender.If that is true, that's the most B.S. rule I have ever heard. Wow. I've had enough family court with the custody battles to become very familiar with the rules of the powers that be. I didn't marry well, but I got out with my kids. <not much else, but I got what I wanted.>
mewhojen said: KayK said: mewhojen said: According to the Dept of Human Services, children cannot share a room unless they are of the same gender.If that is true, that's the most B.S. rule I have ever heard. Wow. I've had enough family court with the custody battles to become very familiar with the rules of the powers that be. I didn't marry well, but I got out with my kids. <not much else, but I got what I wanted.>I dont doubt you. I just dont get what the reasoning behind it could be. It sounds so stupid.
KayK said: mewhojen said: KayK said: mewhojen said: According to the Dept of Human Services, children cannot share a room unless they are of the same gender.If that is true, that's the most B.S. rule I have ever heard. Wow. I've had enough family court with the custody battles to become very familiar with the rules of the powers that be. I didn't marry well, but I got out with my kids. <not much else, but I got what I wanted.>I dont doubt you. I just dont get what the reasoning behind it could be. It sounds so stupid.
nothing a room divider and twin beds couldn't fix.
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soundtechie said: joyrae said: I think we need a cyborg president.
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RS4Rings said: My plan for a family of 3 is about $17k, and it's not even a great plan since even with us all relatively healthy I spend about another $3k a year meeting deductibles and co payments. So I can just imagine the out of pocket costs on a $10k family plan Without any wealth, what would a family of 4 in MA with an income of $50K do, spend $20K in Health Care, $5k in taxes, leaving them with $25K for everything else.
mewhojen said: 0AfterRebates: Quit greening everybody. I realize you want to run for office, but yeesh!
Giving green makes it so one idiot can't make a post red. Red just pisses some people off. Red make the poster mad (sometimes, if they see it). Them mad equals this thread locked. This thread locked equals end of discussion. So, no. Plus it makes it way easier to see what posts I have read and it lets people know I have read their post. Just ignore my green if you want if it bothers you.
HumDoHamaraDo said: RS4Rings said: My plan for a family of 3 is about $17k, and it's not even a great plan since even with us all relatively healthy I spend about another $3k a year meeting deductibles and co payments. So I can just imagine the out of pocket costs on a $10k family plan Without any wealth, what would a family of 4 in MA with an income of $50K do, spend $20K in Health Care, $5k in taxes, leaving them with $25K for everything else. Like I said before, that would get them free/subsidized care here. I could play around with my numbers and get it for free if I wanted to
MadAnthony said: burgerwars said: I am announcing today that I'm not running for President.
So there will not be a burger in every pot?
I have confidence in this country that there will still be burgers even if it's not under my leadership. If the current President is re-elected, this video of him going to Five Guys gives me confidence that we can overcome any burger shortages in the coming years with little economic harm. If he's not re-elected, his burger knowledge should be enough for him to obtain gainful employment at most burger joints. He'll still do OK.
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