HIV prevention pill

HIV prevention pill Truvada backed by US experts

I think most people will abuse this pill like there's no tomorrow and the only form of safe sex is with Rosy Palm and her five sisters.

Ehhh from what I have heard the pill has some significant side effects. Not to mention if it truely does become common I bet you end up with a strain of HIV that is resistant to it and can infect people despite it.

It is only a 50-75% reduction... there is still significant risk of getting HIV despite this pill.

My suspicion is that responsible people will continue to be responsible and the risky people will continue to be risky. Maybe if just the risky people take this it will help.

Anyways I personally don't intend to be doing anything risky with anyone unless I am in committed relationship and wouldn't consider taking this drug.

LongDongSilver said:   I think most people will abuse this pill like there's no tomorrow and the only form of safe sex is with Rosy Palm and her five sisters.

But if you have herpes there you can spread it to your eye.

Corganiacs said:   that pill has been out more than 10 years ago.. or at least when I started my graduate school...
it just now hit the news?

It just got approved by FDA. I'm sure it has been being used off label plenty though for HIV prevention.

How is that such an awful thing, because its true? Theres more money in drugs to keep people alive with a disease, having to take a handful of drugs every day, than taking one pill or having one shot one time? Drug companies are no different than Any other, theyre after profits.

thumpergeek said:   How is that such an awful thing, because its true? Theres more money in drugs to keep people alive with a disease, having to take a handful of drugs every day, than taking one pill or having one shot one time? Drug companies are no different than Any other, theyre after profits. We would Hope they would be more ethical and do things to better the world, but obviosly very few will if it means even a penny less profit...

I don't know how many healthcare workers you know personally. I don't know ANY actual person in the healthcare field who wants people to delay treatment or prolong treatment just to make money off of them. And I know a LOT of them.

If you looked at this from a slightly less jaded POV, you could see that this drug is not that effective and the side effects to someone who already has a compromised immune system can be devastating. This drug can easily give a false sense of security, basically creating a much larger problem than already exists. If anything, the drug companies are doing the happy dance that this got approved so they can charge out the ass for it...and STILL turn around and make a buck off of the treatment when the person ends up getting AIDS anyway.

webferret said:   scrouds said:   Some health workers and groups active in the HIV community have opposed the approval of the drug.
I would too, if it was going to cut into my future customer base.

Changing aids from a deadly disease to one that can be managed for the drug companies' profits was a huge win for big pharma. Creating drugs that reduce their customer base will not be seen as good.

You have said some pretty shitty things in the past, but this is one of your top 5, I think.

Be proud.

I don't hold the drug companies in high regard. They're siphoning tons of money off from the economy to fund research for more treatments. Cures just don't have a good ROI.

webferret said:   thumpergeek said:   How is that such an awful thing, because its true? Theres more money in drugs to keep people alive with a disease, having to take a handful of drugs every day, than taking one pill or having one shot one time? Drug companies are no different than Any other, theyre after profits. We would Hope they would be more ethical and do things to better the world, but obviosly very few will if it means even a penny less profit...

I don't know how m any healthcare workers you know personally. I don't know ANY actual person in the healthcare field who wants people to delay treatment or prolong treatment just to make money off of them. And I know a LOT of them.

If you looked at this from a slightly less jaded POV, you could see that this drug is not that effective and the side effects to someone who already has a compromised immune system can be devastating. This drug can easily give a false sense of security, basically creating a much larger problem than already exists. If anything, the drug companies are doing the happy dance that this got approved so they can charge out the ass for it...and STILL turn around and make a buck off of the treatment when the person ends up getting AIDS anyway.lets say it was just the common cold. Cure it and sales of tissues, chicken noodle soup, vitamin c supplements, hand sanitizer, zicam, all kinds of things would go down. Or What if We Were talking about appliances instead? Im not saying theyre sadistic, money hungry monsters, but if they spent the time looking for a Cure instead of a temporary fix, maybe We would have one...but there would have to be a reason they have worked so hard on these drugs to keep people with aids alive, manage cold symptoms after, etc instead. You could make a washing machine that could last 20 years, ours already has, but its more profitable to make them break down after 5 years.

Yeah most of the healthcare workers in the field are getting played, basically.

I would have never thought of that, that sounds like a great idea. Why aren't they using these things? Any links I can check out?