Burger diet cholesterol levels are now in.

LDL: 119
HDL: 75
Total: 194

My HDL and total are in the good range with the LDL a bit above optimal (below 100 is the goal). My LDL has crept up a bit.

Next cholesterol level at the doctor will probably be in six months. Aside from the past month where I cut back on burgers, my burger eating before was in my normal range. I think I might have to limit myself to one tasty burger a week. Maybe I can do it, but it will be tough.

In a week I need to take a work trip to Dallas. Those Texas size beef portions will be tempting.

I went to mcdonalds yesterday, should have taken a pic for you. 4 mcdoubles with extra onions, no bun. They put the 4 on a platter, onions and ketchup in the middle with the cheese, meat on the outside with a piece of lettuce on the bottom. It was pretty. I slathered them in more ketchup and ate up. Still has that classic mcdonalds burger taste, just less bready.

scrouds said:   I went to mcdonalds yesterday, should have taken a pic for you. 4 mcdoubles with extra onions, no bun. They put the 4 on a platter, onions and ketchup in the middle with the cheese, meat on the outside with a piece of lettuce on the bottom. It was pretty. I slathered them in more ketchup and ate up. Still has that classic mcdonalds burger taste, just less bready.

A low carb diet is not a low carb diet if it contains lots of cheese, ketchup, and the sugar that happens to be in the meat.

I dropped mine 30 points in 3 weeks, almost all of it LDL. My two changes: switched from oat bran once/week to 6x/week and cut all milk fat (skim vs. 1% and no cheese). My doctor was a bit pissed to be proved wrong (he said I couldn't significantly change my cholesterol via diet).

burgerwars said:   scrouds said:   I went to mcdonalds yesterday, should have taken a pic for you. 4 mcdoubles with extra onions, no bun. They put the 4 on a platter, onions and ketchup in the middle with the cheese, meat on the outside with a piece of lettuce on the bottom. It was pretty. I slathered them in more ketchup and ate up. Still has that classic mcdonalds burger taste, just less bready.

Thanks. An eight-patty stack sounds yummy.

Mayo Clinic website suggests: some juices, olive oil, margarine, yogurt drinks, oatmeal, fish and nuts. No burger suggestions, but I can't break tradition. They'll always be a part of a balanced diet.

Margarine is bad, oatmeal is better then toast or cocoa puffs, but I'm not a fan. I prefer whole fruit to juice, much better for you. Fish, olive oil is good. Nuts are good for snacks or to cook with occasionally, but are not good as a staple. I like yogurt with live cultures in it, the drinks I don't touch.

It does amaze me how much groupthink is in medicine. Just look at diabetus, people start becoming diabetic, they tell them to eat lots of whole grains. Nobody improves on that diet, so next checkup they give them drugs. I can sum up modern medicine in a few simple words.

Eating fats makes you fat
Eating cholesterol makes your cholesterol go up.
But eating carbs doesn't make you diabetic.

Now carbs aren't inherintly bad for you, but too much of a good thing is. If you're fat though, carbs are a bad thing. Its like this, sensible carbs for health, low carbs to lose the weight.

Next time, I'm making a mcdouble tower.

Don't they make a yogurt/oatmeal combo these days?

Eggs and bacon is better.

most common misconception: Ketosis doesn't break down protein.

I was going to write something out, but I'll steal from wikipedia, they do a good job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis

When glycogen stores are not available in the cells, fat (triacylglycerol) is cleaved to provide 3 fatty acid chains and 1 glycerol molecule in a process called lipolysis. Most of the body is able to use fatty acids as an alternative source of energy in a process called beta-oxidation. One of the products of beta-oxidation is acetyl-CoA, which can be further used in the Krebs cycle. During prolonged fasting or starvation, acetyl-CoA in the liver is used to produce ketone bodies instead, leading to a state of ketosis.
During starvation or a long physical training session, the body starts using fatty acids instead of glucose. The brain cannot use long-chain fatty acids for energy because they are completely albumin-bound and cannot cross the blood–brain barrier. Not all medium-chain fatty acids are bound to albumin. The unbound medium-chain fatty acids are soluble in the blood and can cross the blood–brain barrier.[2] The ketone bodies produced in the liver can also cross the blood–brain barrier. In the brain, these ketone bodies are then incorporated into acetyl-CoA and used in the citric acid cycle.
The ketone body acetoacetate will slowly decarboxylate into acetone, a volatile compound that is both metabolized as an energy source and lost in the breath and urine.

Your body uses energy. When you don't eat enough carbs to feed your energy, it takes either dietary fat or adipose fat and and turns it into energy per the above. You don't need to eat ultra low carbs. Hell you can technically eat only carbs and nothing else. As long as you use more energy then what you eat, your body will take fat stores and turn them into energy and you will have ketones in your body. Try it out, you can buy piss sticks at the drug store.

There's a lot of bad information out there on diet and low carb. I think the haters are out there trying to turn everything so exrteme so normal people will think its all kooky. Its not like that.

coolcommenter said:   I've been waiting for this. I could already ear burger everyday.

Ear burger! Yumm!

I'm at McDonald's. Ordered an Egg McMuffin and oatmeal. I just finished the McMuffin. I'm now rounding up the courage to eat the oatmeal.

Next thing you know... they'll be sellin eye burgers.

I SEE what you did there.

ganda said:   george2001 said:   coolcommenter said:   I've been waiting for this. I could already ear burger everyday.

Ear burger! Yumm!

Hear! Hear!

Lobe one of those my way, please.

Do they wrap them in waxed paper?
Mike Tyson makes the best ear burgers.

Corganiacs said:   burgerwars said:   LDL: 119
HDL: 75
Total: 194

My HDL and total are in the good range with the LDL a bit above optimal (below 100 is the goal). My LDL has crept up a bit.

Next cholesterol level at the doctor will probably be in six months. Aside from the past month where I cut back on burgers, my burger eating before was in my normal range. I think I might have to limit myself to one tasty burger a week. Maybe I can do it, but it will be tough.

In a week I need to take a work trip to Dallas. Those Texas size beef portions will be tempting. thats the highest HDL ive seen

Fish oil tablets. One can't eat enough Filet-o-Fish to achieve the same. Recently I heard higher HDL levels aren't that important after all, but I'll continue with the pills.

ganda said:   kamalktk said:   ganda said:   george2001 said:   coolcommenter said:   I've been waiting for this. I could already ear burger everyday.

Ear burger! Yumm!

Hear! Hear!

Lobe one of those my way, please.

Do they wrap them in waxed paper?
Mike Tyson makes the best ear burgers.

I thought they were a bit chewy.

Ear burger!