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Look about half way down the page in the middle. You can either print the card out or have it mailed. If you want it mailed, just send a SASE and get a legal rights card to be used in the event you are detained by the police.

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Does this also apply for traffic stops?

"You are not required by law to answer any questions from the Police or district attorney unless you have an attorney present and they advise you to do so. Offer the Police your Legal Rights card which lets them know you are not willing to answer any questions unless you have an attorney present"

I hate it when they ask me questions like "where are you going" like its any of their business. I've thought about saying "to see your wife, she is waiting on me now". "Do you know how fast you were going?" uhh, no, but I bet you do.


rocket scientist are you?
When stopped by a traffic cop or any cop when youre driving a motor vehicle ALWAYS be circumspect and youll find yourself better off. They have a lot of leeway as to how to react to circumstances and you can avoid possibly being arrested even when deserving it (frankly you sound to me like you usually deserve the handcuffs). The prospect of being polite and maybe or maybe not getting ticketed versus being hauled off to jail and having car impounded and spending mucho money for expenses and hassles always is a no brainer unless of course you have no brain, in that case keep on keeping smart answering to cops.


sojourn4me said: rocket scientist are you?
When stopped by a traffic cop or any cop when youre driving a motor vehicle ALWAYS be circumspect and youll find yourself better off. They have a lot of leeway as to how to react to circumstances and you can avoid possibly being arrested even when deserving it (frankly you sound to me like you usually deserve the handcuffs). The prospect of being polite and maybe or maybe not getting ticketed versus being hauled off to jail and having car impounded and spending mucho money for expenses and hassles always is a no brainer unless of course you have no brain, in that case keep on keeping smart answering to cops.


I don't like cops, the personal attack isn't necessary.


khorne55 said: Does this also apply for traffic stops?

"You are not required by law to answer any questions from the Police or district attorney unless you have an attorney present and they advise you to do so. Offer the Police your Legal Rights card which lets them know you are not willing to answer any questions unless you have an attorney present"

I hate it when they ask me questions like "where are you going" like its any of their business. I've thought about saying "to see your wife, she is waiting on me now". "Do you know how fast you were going?" uhh, no, but I bet you do.


Tell me when you do this!

I want to be there when he writes you every ticket for any possible thing he saw you do, then when you argue with him, I can see him arrest you for disorderly conduct and haul you away and then impound your car.

But of course I guess you'll have the last word, even though it will be to bubba in the cell!

Hay you can always bring your card and read it to the judge to!


nm


khorne55 said: Does this also apply for traffic stops?

"You are not required by law to answer any questions from the Police or district attorney unless you have an attorney present and they advise you to do so. Offer the Police your Legal Rights card which lets them know you are not willing to answer any questions unless you have an attorney present"

I hate it when they ask me questions like "where are you going" like its any of their business. I've thought about saying "to see your wife, she is waiting on me now". "Do you know how fast you were going?" uhh, no, but I bet you do.


I believe, and I could be wrong, that the right to an attorney, not to answer questions, etc., only applies to when you are being charged and/or arrested with a felony. Most traffic stops are simple misdemeanors--if that.

And they ask those sort of questions as way to determine if you have been drinking/doing drugs, if you are being evasive, etc. It's a simple enough trick to help weed out the "bad" guys from the people who just screwed up and were driving too fast, ran a stop sign, etc.


khorne55

My hubby hates cops too. He is waiting for one to ask him to take a breathalizer (sp?). He does NOT drink alcohol at all. He is a carpenter so not always the "best dressed" and has a beard. It seems with tools of the trade in the vehicle the cops all seem to assume that there are drugs or alcohol in the car. He also feels it is his right to NOT wear a seatbelt (Boy, have we argued over that one) but has not gotten a ticket for that yet.

When I get stopped by a cop I'm just terrified. No reason but I'm ready to cry. Maybe it's the thought of having to spend money on a ticket that frightens me.


bam66 said: khorne55

My hubby hates cops too. He is waiting for one to ask him to take a breathalizer (sp?). He does NOT drink alcohol at all. He is a carpenter so not always the "best dressed" and has a beard. It seems with tools of the trade in the vehicle the cops all seem to assume that there are drugs or alcohol in the car. He also feels it is his right to NOT wear a seatbelt (Boy, have we argued over that one) but has not gotten a ticket for that yet.

When I get stopped by a cop I'm just terrified. No reason but I'm ready to cry. Maybe it's the thought of having to spend money on a ticket that frightens me.


What do you mean "He is waiting for one to ask him to take a breathalizer (sp?)."

If he doesn't like in my state your license is ther forth suspended right then without delay!

Oh and driving is considered a privilege NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT like many think!


My horse and I both lost our licenses.He still drives I ride along.He thinks its his CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to travel.I hope he don't goto jail.Its too far for me to walk to work.


I've been arrested many times. I've also been let go many times. I don't know your individual situation, so talk with your attorney. Based on if you are doing nothing wrong, or if you know you are guilty, you still have rights. This is not legal advice, but general advice. Here's what you do:

(Basically if you are a FatWalleter, you are all set since you have the "common sense" to make it through a stop, arrest, jail, plea, sentence, and appeal)

1. Be respectful. Police hate it when you say "mam" or "sir", so just respond "Officer" (blue shirt) or "Lieutenant" (white shirt).

1a. Don't ask why you were stopped. You have a right to know, but now is not the time.

1b. You have to tell the officer your name, and in certain locations, OR if driving, show I.D. Do this A.S.A.P. without arguing. If you know you have a warrant out for your arrest, let the officer know, he will be more FORGIVING.

1c. The cop will run your I.D. through the N.C.I.S. system. It is NOT the same as a civilan background check. All your past arrests, even if found not guilty, dismissed, or nolle prosequoi, will show up. So will all of your past addresses and (if you have multiple licenses concurrently in different states, I have, no big deal, even if they are all still "valid") If you have been stopped previously (within a few weeks) and let go, THAT WILL STILL SHOW UP. I personally have had the police say "Oh, I see you were pulled over on XX/XX/XX in XXXX City" What were you doing there?" (You have the right to remain silent if confronted with such a statement. You respond with "My lawyer says N.C.I.S. is just a database and subject to human error. I must speak with him before discussing the details further.") N.C.I.S. is a "smart" database; it will let the cop know A LOT about you (and who lives at your address) and your vehicle (like if the previous owners were drug dealers, criminalsm etc). If you want to know more specifics, google "NCIC 2000" or "NCIS 2000". It's scary, intimidating, but learn about it. It might help you out in the future, even if you are TOTALLY INNOCENT. The police DO MAKE MISTAKES, and often.

2. Never admit or say anything incriminating.

2a. If asked how fast you were going, the best answer is either "I was following traffic, but I thought I was under the limit". Same advice about running a red light or stop sign: "In my judgement, the light was green" Never say "Oh, it was yellow". If confronted futher, remain silent. Play dumb, ignorant, or whatever. Just say as little as possible, or better, nothing at all.

2b. If asked to search your car, and you have contraband (drugs, guns), say "I don't consent. I need an attorney to answer any more questions." Certain states have laws where the cop has to have you sign a form for consent. NEVER DO SO WITHOUT YOUR LAWYER PRESENT. Same applies to your home (real estate). If an officer bangs on your door, don't open it. Tell him he can only come in, and/or question you if he has a SEARCH WARRANT SIGNED BY A JUDGE. If he does, he'll knock down the door anyways. If he doesn't, tell him to leave. (Personally, I've had cops knock on my door. I asked them if they had a search warrant. They said "no". I told them I was not answering any questions and to leave immediately. THEY DID. It was a "noise complaint"... but hey, you have rights, too.)

2c. If asked to take field sobriety tests, say "My lawyer says I must decline, but I'll take a breathalyzer at the station." and say no more, especially if you are DUI'ing it. (Most states have severe penalties if you refuse the breathalyzer, moreso if you were convicted of DUI/DWI, *Unless its your second or more offense, or it involves manslaughter/vehicular assault, or its double the legal limit in certain states... See...that's why I said you need a lawyer, especially if it is serious. But a simple DUI/DWI... don't refuse.)

2d. If asked where you are coming from or going, say "My personal life is private, I don't wish to talk about it." If still asked, say "I'm in an affair, I have to keep it personal", or "I am going to assert my right to be silent". The officer will HATE this response, but you HAVE to remain silent; since now he will be VERY suspicious.

2e. If asked any further questioning say "I have the right to remain silent, and I wish to do so", and KEEP SILENT.

2f. If unsure, say "I am confused about my rights. I am indigent, cannot afford an attorney, but must assert my right to one before proceeding."

2g. If you are 100% sure you aren't doing anything illegal, then "consent" to the search, but later report the officer if you think he was profiling or stopped you for no reason. Do not bring this up at the time of the stop.

3. After the stop, gather any and all evidence, and take your own notes: Time, intersection of the stop, whether the officer was alone or with others, names of any witnesses, if you have a digital camera in the car take pictures, if you have a microcassete recorder, record what the cop says (if this is legal in the jurisdiction),

3a. Remember: The badge number and name of the officer will be listed on the ticket, so don't ask for it, it just pisses them off.

4. Don't be intimidated if the officer threatens to arrest/detain/jail you. AFTER you are arrested, your MIRANDA rights kick in; not before. Plus, if its a minor offense, jail is not a big deal. After local lock-up at the police station (which sucks) at County Jail you get hot food, a private shower, clean uniforms, a right to a lawyer, bond review, and a judicial hearing, books (you'll do a LOT of reading), and most of the other prisoners are in the same situation... they'll be nice unless you hurt a kid or are in an opposing gang.

4a. Remember: If in jail, save and hide your toilet paper, soap, pens, paper, stamps, sugar and salt packets, and call someone on the outside (It's pretty much common sense.)

Most of the time, the cop has already made the descision whether to "arrest" / bust you... so anything you say can and WILL be used against you in court.

The best advice is to speak as little as possible; remain as anonymous as possible, and not to talk your way out of it (it will only make things worse if you *try to talk your way out of it, unless, your immediate family member is an officer, judge, sherrif, or prosecuting attorney. Even then it is a breach of ethics for both the officer and you.)


Oh... I read a couple of the previous posts regarding the dreaded "Breathalyzer"...

1. An officer needs probable cause to pull you over for suspected "Drinking and Driving". This is easy in most cases. For me it was:

a. "An anonymous observer saw your car swerving and reported your plate number" (Happened to me... the charge was later dismissed as I was in my car in a parking lot, parked, motor off /without/ the keys in the ignition as I saw the police approach, waiting. I had my girlfriend, my witness, testify to this in front of the DMV commissioner - this applies to Connecticut juristiction in my situation). If your keys are in the ignition, even with the engine off, in almost all states, you are screwed. You get arrested. They say you had "intent" to drive, since the keys were in the ignition.

b. You are driving UNDER the speed limit. This is a profiling tactic to "catch" drunk drivers, as you tend to be extra cautious. Other "typical" profiles are swerving, or rolling through a stop sign.

2. Never take the field sobriety test. YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED BY LAW. SAY NO. Anything you say/do will be used against you.

2a. Do not roll down your window or step out of your car. If asked for a license, roll it down just a "bit" and hand it to the cop. The cop is smelling for alcohol on your breath, and seeing if you have bloodshot eyes. You want to prevent this. WEAR SUNGLASSES AT NIGHT if you typically DUI it. WARNING: --- DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE, DO NOT BREAK THE LAW, BUT IF YOU HAVE HAD SOME TO DRINK, EVEN IF YOU ARE UNDER THE PER SE .08 LIMIT, YOU STILL CAN BE FOUND GUILTY OF DUI/DWI. Some states have an affirmative defense that you are not guilty if you blow below .05, but NOT ALL. YOU CAN BE FOUND GUILTY IF YOU ARE BELOW .05 but ADMIT or your Blood Test/Field Sobriety tests/and Admissions (this is why I say remain silent) SHOW THAT you are under the influence of PRESCRIBED (Percocet, Xanax, Clonazapam, Valium), or NON-PRESCRIBED, OVER THE COUNTER medication, like Tylenol PM, Robotussin, Ambien, Sleep Aids, Anti-depressants (Paxil, Prozac, Effexor,), arthritis drugs, even VIAGRA!

BE CAREFUL! And remain silent.


Some good advice here, thanks!


Thanks!


1. Be respectful. Police hate it when you say "mam" or "sir", so just respond "Officer" (blue shirt) or "Lieutenant" (white shirt).

Oh that is the biggest load of horse crap I have ever heard! Not all ranking officers wear different color shirts either.
The cop will run your I.D. through the N.C.I.S. system. It is NOT the same as a civilan background check. All your past arrests, even if found not guilty, dismissed, or nolle prosequoi, will show up. So will all of your past addresses and (if you have multiple licenses concurrently in different states, I have, no big deal, even if they are all still "valid") If you have been stopped previously (within a few weeks) and let go, THAT WILL STILL SHOW UP. I personally have had the police say "Oh, I see you were pulled over on XX/XX/XX in XXXX City" What were you doing there?" (You have the right to remain silent if confronted with such a statement. You respond with "My lawyer says N.C.I.S. is just a database and subject to human error. I must speak with him before discussing the details further.") N.C.I.S. is a "smart" database; it will let the cop know A LOT about you (and who lives at your address) and your vehicle (like if the previous owners were drug dealers, criminalsm etc). If you want to know more specifics, google "NCIC 2000" or "NCIS 2000". It's scary, intimidating, but learn about it. It might help you out in the future, even if you are TOTALLY INNOCENT. The police DO MAKE MISTAKES, and often.

This in not entirely true. Simply running your ID does not show all this information. The officer has to run what is called a criminal history to show all the information you mention. Also NCIC does not track a stop that does not result in a ticket/charge or arrest. You are quite mistaken in a lot of your information.

I could type more--but you OBVIOUSLY have more experience being arrested than I do. I was a dispatcher though and I do know what information is r'cd for a simple license check vs. what is r'cd when a criminal history is ran. They can also run just a simple driving history--completely seperate from your criminal history.

A lot of your information is half arse or just plain incorrect!


MarilynKay said: I could type more--but you OBVIOUSLY have more experience being arrested than I do.

And that makes you a better person so you should feel good about yourself, heh


There are websites out there that will do a better job of explaining all this than a FW thread can.


khorne55 said: MarilynKay said: I could type more--but you OBVIOUSLY have more experience being arrested than I do.

And that makes you a better person so you should feel good about yourself, heh

Nope--doesn't make me a better person, I was just stating the obvious (and restating what he/she had already posted.)


cool thanks


MarkPD has excellent advice. I bought my son a book written by a local cop from the Syracuse area on how to avoid speeding tickets, and my son said it was one of the best gifts I've ever given him. Basic sound advice - stop as quickly as you can find a safe spot to pull over, put your hands on the dashboard in plain view so the cop can see them, wait for the cop to come alongside before you move your hands to roll down the windshield, be absolutely and completely polite whether you feel you did nothing wrong or not, let the cop do the talking and answer as truthfully and politely as you can but (my buddy the lawyer's advice here....don't volunteer any more info than you were asked, answer the questions and only the questions and then shut up!), all common sense stuff.
Yes, you can get a ticket when you are not speeding. I had it happen to me. I absolutely positively was not speeding, I could barely see the top lights as he came over the rise of the hill as I rounded a steep curve going downhill, couldn't even see his windshield, and he flicked the lights on as his lights came into sight, there were other cars going up and down the hill, and I was driving an old clunker that could not safely go that speed on that kind of a curve. I went back and drove the same downhill curve several times to make sure, and indeed going the speed the cop claimed would have put my car out of control on that hill. Did I fight it? Nope, I didn't have the money for a lawyer and I knew I wouldn't win, not in this town. Sometimes you just have to pick your fights. Sigh


Oh, and the absolutely best advice for the Drinking Crowd...become best buddies with a non-drinker who can be your Designated Driver. I don't drink and was the Designated Driver for my friends for years. Best part was that I had just as much fun as they did, my soda was free all night, but no worries the next morning about what I might or might not have done, no hangovers, and no fear of being stopped for DUI/DWI. A lot of friends take turns being the Designated Driver, and that works too.
And if you absolutely can't resist the alcohol, and the bar closes, there are volunteers in many areas where two people will come out and get you, one drives you and your car home, and the other follows to pick up the driver after you and your car are safely and legally home. A lot of bars have numbers for this service or the local AAA group might know how to reach it.
If you can't get a sober driver to take you home, and you must get in your car, get in but DON'T put the keys in the ignition. In fact, as my buddy the lawyer said, put the keys OUTSIDE the car somewhere, like under it, so it will be clear to an officer checking on you that you are NOT driving or intending to drive at that moment.
Sorry, end of Mom's lecture number 237. You're all adults and all know this stuff anyway. Ooooops.


thx


khorne55 said: Does this also apply for traffic stops?

"You are not required by law to answer any questions from the Police or district attorney unless you have an attorney present and they advise you to do so. Offer the Police your Legal Rights card which lets them know you are not willing to answer any questions unless you have an attorney present"

I hate it when they ask me questions like "where are you going" like its any of their business. I've thought about saying "to see your wife, she is waiting on me now". "Do you know how fast you were going?" uhh, no, but I bet you do.



i saw some show where they kept asking this woman where she was going. i don't think it is any of their business. she was clearly not happy, but was polite at first ... then it was almost like they were trying to provoke her. they didn't give her a ticket or anything ... they pulle d her over for taking a turn too sharp or something.

i haven't been pulled over in years, but the last time (i was in another state) ... i just laughed. i was speeding ... whatever, give me a ticket. i think my attitude pissed him off, but i didn't mean it to be rude. but, i sure the hell ain't one to beg for a warning. *shrugs*


MarkPD said: I've been arrested many times. I've also been let go many times. I don't know your individual situation, so talk with your attorney. Based on if you are doing nothing wrong, or if you know you are guilty, you still have rights. This is not legal advice, but general advice. Here's what you do:

(Basically if you are a FatWalleter, you are all set since you have the "common sense" to make it through a stop, arrest, jail, plea, sentence, and appeal)

1. Be respectful. Police hate it when you say "mam" or "sir", so just respond "Officer" (blue shirt) or "Lieutenant" (white shirt).

1a. Don't ask why you were stopped. You have a right to know, but now is not the time.

1b. You have to tell the officer your name, and in certain locations, OR if driving, show I.D. Do this A.S.A.P. without arguing. If you know you have a warrant out for your arrest, let the officer know, he will be more FORGIVING.

1c. The cop will run your I.D. through the N.C.I.S. system. It is NOT the same as a civilan background check. All your past arrests, even if found not guilty, dismissed, or nolle prosequoi, will show up. So will all of your past addresses and (if you have multiple licenses concurrently in different states, I have, no big deal, even if they are all still "valid") If you have been stopped previously (within a few weeks) and let go, THAT WILL STILL SHOW UP. I personally have had the police say "Oh, I see you were pulled over on XX/XX/XX in XXXX City" What were you doing there?" (You have the right to remain silent if confronted with such a statement. You respond with "My lawyer says N.C.I.S. is just a database and subject to human error. I must speak with him before discussing the details further.") N.C.I.S. is a "smart" database; it will let the cop know A LOT about you (and who lives at your address) and your vehicle (like if the previous owners were drug dealers, criminalsm etc). If you want to know more specifics, google "NCIC 2000" or "NCIS 2000". It's scary, intimidating, but learn about it. It might help you out in the future, even if you are TOTALLY INNOCENT. The police DO MAKE MISTAKES, and often.

2. Never admit or say anything incriminating.

2a. If asked how fast you were going, the best answer is either "I was following traffic, but I thought I was under the limit". Same advice about running a red light or stop sign: "In my judgement, the light was green" Never say "Oh, it was yellow". If confronted futher, remain silent. Play dumb, ignorant, or whatever. Just say as little as possible, or better, nothing at all.

2b. If asked to search your car, and you have contraband (drugs, guns), say "I don't consent. I need an attorney to answer any more questions." Certain states have laws where the cop has to have you sign a form for consent. NEVER DO SO WITHOUT YOUR LAWYER PRESENT. Same applies to your home (real estate). If an officer bangs on your door, don't open it. Tell him he can only come in, and/or question you if he has a SEARCH WARRANT SIGNED BY A JUDGE. If he does, he'll knock down the door anyways. If he doesn't, tell him to leave. (Personally, I've had cops knock on my door. I asked them if they had a search warrant. They said "no". I told them I was not answering any questions and to leave immediately. THEY DID. It was a "noise complaint"... but hey, you have rights, too.)

2c. If asked to take field sobriety tests, say "My lawyer says I must decline, but I'll take a breathalyzer at the station." and say no more, especially if you are DUI'ing it. (Most states have severe penalties if you refuse the breathalyzer, moreso if you were convicted of DUI/DWI, *Unless its your second or more offense, or it involves manslaughter/vehicular assault, or its double the legal limit in certain states... See...that's why I said you need a lawyer, especially if it is serious. But a simple DUI/DWI... don't refuse.)

2d. If asked where you are coming from or going, say "My personal life is private, I don't wish to talk about it." If still asked, say "I'm in an affair, I have to keep it personal", or "I am going to assert my right to be silent". The officer will HATE this response, but you HAVE to remain silent; since now he will be VERY suspicious.

2e. If asked any further questioning say "I have the right to remain silent, and I wish to do so", and KEEP SILENT.

2f. If unsure, say "I am confused about my rights. I am indigent, cannot afford an attorney, but must assert my right to one before proceeding."

2g. If you are 100% sure you aren't doing anything illegal, then "consent" to the search, but later report the officer if you think he was profiling or stopped you for no reason. Do not bring this up at the time of the stop.

3. After the stop, gather any and all evidence, and take your own notes: Time, intersection of the stop, whether the officer was alone or with others, names of any witnesses, if you have a digital camera in the car take pictures, if you have a microcassete recorder, record what the cop says (if this is legal in the jurisdiction),

3a. Remember: The badge number and name of the officer will be listed on the ticket, so don't ask for it, it just pisses them off.

4. Don't be intimidated if the officer threatens to arrest/detain/jail you. AFTER you are arrested, your MIRANDA rights kick in; not before. Plus, if its a minor offense, jail is not a big deal. After local lock-up at the police station (which sucks) at County Jail you get hot food, a private shower, clean uniforms, a right to a lawyer, bond review, and a judicial hearing, books (you'll do a LOT of reading), and most of the other prisoners are in the same situation... they'll be nice unless you hurt a kid or are in an opposing gang.

4a. Remember: If in jail, save and hide your toilet paper, soap, pens, paper, stamps, sugar and salt packets, and call someone on the outside (It's pretty much common sense.)

Most of the time, the cop has already made the descision whether to "arrest" / bust you... so anything you say can and WILL be used against you in court.

The best advice is to speak as little as possible; remain as anonymous as possible, and not to talk your way out of it (it will only make things worse if you *try to talk your way out of it, unless, your immediate family member is an officer, judge, sherrif, or prosecuting attorney. Even then it is a breach of ethics for both the officer and you.)


There's so much wrong with this post, I don't even know where to begin.

Anyone who's reading this and thinking of taking this advice, all I can say is: Please do your research before accepting anything as truth. I can promise you that if you do the things listed here, you'll get yourself into a lot more trouble.

Some things to keep in mind:
Hindering is an offense.
If an officer asks you to show ID you HAVE to show him/her ID.


khorne55 said: MarilynKay said: I could type more--but you OBVIOUSLY have more experience being arrested than I do.

And that makes you a better person so you should feel good about yourself, heh


Yep. I definitely feel good when considering that I haven't broken the law or become an imposition to society.

What a society we live in when people are proud of their arrest records and still think they're good people with a rap sheet 30 pages long.


chickinaugusta said: Look about half way down the page in the middle. You can either print the card out or have it mailed. If you want it mailed, just send a SASE and get a legal rights card to be used in the event you are detained by the police.

Link


That looks like a spam sight to me. I'd use extreme caution in giving them any personal info. Also, their "rights" card is really lame.


sgtdave4321 said: khorne55 said: MarilynKay said: I could type more--but you OBVIOUSLY have more experience being arrested than I do.

And that makes you a better person so you should feel good about yourself, heh


Yep. I definitely feel good when considering that I haven't broken the law or become an imposition to society.

What a society we live in when people are proud of their arrest records and still think they're good people with a rap sheet 30 pages long.


You have broken many laws you just haven't been caught.


khorne55 said: sgtdave4321 said: khorne55 said: MarilynKay said: I could type more--but you OBVIOUSLY have more experience being arrested than I do.

And that makes you a better person so you should feel good about yourself, heh


Yep. I definitely feel good when considering that I haven't broken the law or become an imposition to society.

What a society we live in when people are proud of their arrest records and still think they're good people with a rap sheet 30 pages long.


You have broken many laws you just haven't been caught.


if you say so it must be true


khorne55 said: sgtdave4321 said: khorne55 said: MarilynKay said: I could type more--but you OBVIOUSLY have more experience being arrested than I do.

And that makes you a better person so you should feel good about yourself, heh


Yep. I definitely feel good when considering that I haven't broken the law or become an imposition to society.

What a society we live in when people are proud of their arrest records and still think they're good people with a rap sheet 30 pages long.


You have broken many laws you just haven't been caught.


I, on occasion, have broken a few laws--BUT, the laws I have broken were never ones that were arrestable offenses had I been caught. I don't make it a habit to break the law. I can honestly say the closest I have come being arrested was being in a car with a guy who had a warrant for his arrest. Was my car, but I had been drinking (a lot) he had not. He was speeding and got pulled over and ta-da he had a warrant for his arrest. Since I was drunk--the officer made us follow him to the station and I had to sit and sober up while the guy was booked, printed, picture taken. As soon as I was sober the officer let me leave (and yep, I left the guy in jail--I had been a bad judge of character once that night, wasn't going to happen again!)


MarilynKay said: khorne55 said: sgtdave4321 said: khorne55 said: MarilynKay said: I could type more--but you OBVIOUSLY have more experience being arrested than I do.

And that makes you a better person so you should feel good about yourself, heh


Yep. I definitely feel good when considering that I haven't broken the law or become an imposition to society.

What a society we live in when people are proud of their arrest records and still think they're good people with a rap sheet 30 pages long.


You have broken many laws you just haven't been caught.


I, on occasion, have broken a few laws--BUT, the laws I have broken were never ones that were arrestable offenses had I been caught. I don't make it a habit to break the law. I can honestly say the closest I have come being arrested was being in a car with a guy who had a warrant for his arrest. Was my car, but I had been drinking (a lot) he had not. He was speeding and got pulled over and ta-da he had a warrant for his arrest. Since I was drunk--the officer made us follow him to the station and I had to sit and sober up while the guy was booked, printed, picture taken. As soon as I was sober the officer let me leave (and yep, I left the guy in jail--I had been a bad judge of character once that night, wasn't going to happen again!)



Police dispatcher friends with someone with a warrant. Cool!


IQ70 said: MarilynKay said: khorne55 said: sgtdave4321 said: khorne55 said: MarilynKay said: I could type more--but you OBVIOUSLY have more experience being arrested than I do.

And that makes you a better person so you should feel good about yourself, heh


Yep. I definitely feel good when considering that I haven't broken the law or become an imposition to society.

What a society we live in when people are proud of their arrest records and still think they're good people with a rap sheet 30 pages long.


You have broken many laws you just haven't been caught.


I, on occasion, have broken a few laws--BUT, the laws I have broken were never ones that were arrestable offenses had I been caught. I don't make it a habit to break the law. I can honestly say the closest I have come being arrested was being in a car with a guy who had a warrant for his arrest. Was my car, but I had been drinking (a lot) he had not. He was speeding and got pulled over and ta-da he had a warrant for his arrest. Since I was drunk--the officer made us follow him to the station and I had to sit and sober up while the guy was booked, printed, picture taken. As soon as I was sober the officer let me leave (and yep, I left the guy in jail--I had been a bad judge of character once that night, wasn't going to happen again!)



Police dispatcher friends with someone with a warrant. Cool!


Should have clarified this was YEARS ago (I *think* I was 21 or 22)...and before I was married, and LONG before I was a dispatcher. But hey, thanks for remembering my past posts--makes me feel special!


Your past post was in this thread, a few posts above the one in which you mentioned about the warrant guy.


MarkPD said:


4. Don't be intimidated if the officer threatens to arrest/detain/jail you. AFTER you are arrested, your MIRANDA rights kick in; not before. Plus, if its a minor offense, jail is not a big deal. After local lock-up at the police station (which sucks) at County Jail you get hot food, a private shower, clean uniforms, a right to a lawyer, bond review, and a judicial hearing, books (you'll do a LOT of reading), and most of the other prisoners are in the same situation... they'll be nice unless you hurt a kid or are in an opposing gang.


You mean like SD members???

Your whole thread reaks of the crap I used to read at overgrow before it was shut down. The fact is if you are driving drunk or OUI, have enough drugs on you to be considered a felony or have warrants you probably belong in jail until you get things straightened out.

I have NEVER seen an officer let anyone go that had a warrant no matter what is is for. The only benefit is if you are honest and don't act like a |)!ck and waste 30 minutes of time trying to hide something you may not "accidentally" smash your head into the side of the cruiser while getting placed in the back.




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