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momgoingbroke said:MarilynKay said:If YOU know (and most people do by now) that a store is going to stop you on the way out and check your receipt, then WHY even go in there? ...Circuit City is not the only electronics store, Costco is not the only warehouse store, WalMart is not the only "big box" store, etc. If you aren't willing to play by their rules when you go there (again this is assuming you know the rules) then don't shop there!And that's just one reason I have totally stopped going to K-Mart and rarely go to Wa1mart! I've never seen Target do this, which is one of the many reasons why Target gets my business!

and see--I have never had to show my receipt at any KMart, Target or WalMart (except for when I set off the "alarm" at WalMart, which gives them probable cause to inspect my purchases).

Costco and Sams are the only ones that I know have been doing this since forever. I don't shop Circuit City (for completely other reasons!). And quite frankly--showing my receipt is not a battle I'm willing to fight! Now, if you stop me on the way in to WalMart and frisk me, search my purse, etc. Then yes, that would be something I'd be willing to fight right then and there!


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dairymtu said:Checks are done random, sometimes its all, sometimes not. Do you think it is always 100% check are people leaving the store?

Regarding playing by rules, if he wins by law then guess who is playing by the rules? Stores want to do all these checks but are they really playing by the rules in the first place? If they are then they should win no problem.

The things is most people think there's this 'rule' to do so and so if it seems logical or majority or 90% of society think it is right and it makes sense. Just because everyone does it and follow doesn't mean it is right or within the rule/law

It's kind of like when my kids go to someone else's house to play--they have to play by the rules set forth by the adults in the house. If my kids or I feel that their rules are "unfair" or "wrong" then it's real simple--the kids don't go over there again.


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MarilynKay said: Now, if you stop me on the way in to WalMart and frisk me, search my purse, etc. Then yes, that would be something I'd be willing to fight right then and there!Uhhh....this is what I usually do at the concerts I work!


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It makes perfect sense to show receipt, after all you did not steal. Takes just a minute, if more people then it takes longer. When the police officer stops you then just starts asking to open trunk, is that ok? Of course if you have nothing to hide might as well. Because 'you have nothing to hide' and the inconvenience it may cost you in the long run we all gave up most rights.

If the check receipt line is long and it takes 30mins just to be done with i think most people would walk out or never shop there again. How is this different from walking out if the check receipt line was only 1 min long? Now get this; If people knew they could walk out without showing receipt, then when it gets 30mins they will exercise it (would you not?). No different than a 1 min check receipt line (why not exercise it if you can).

The point he was making was that he doesn't need to show the receipt unless he was being accused of something.


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dairymtu said:When the police officer stops you then just starts asking to open trunk, is that ok? Of course if you have nothing to hide might as well.

Unless the officer has probable cause, he has no right to search my vehicle. However, most people surrender because they fear retribution. Know your rights people and stop acting like cattle.


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A store also has a right to refuse service to anyone. I bet that CC is done with that guy. And he did it with his 3 kids being with him?


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I don't know how I feel about this one. On one hand, the kid comes across as a smart-ass punk, and on the other hand, "Joe" comes across as a bully, much like a bar room bouncer, and the cop, well, draw your own conclusions. I know how I feel when a store forgets to deactivate their automated loss prevention tags and I set off an alarm leaving the store. The Best Buy cashiers used to forget to do it all the time and I finally got really pissed about it one time. Some little pimply-faced punk jumped up in my face at the door and I calmly told him "you've got two seconds..." and he did, but I had to ask for the manager about 5 times before they went and got him. They should N-E-V-E-R forget to disable those damned tags, I don't like what it implies when the alarm goes off.


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i have to show my receipt at sam's


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I can see a time in the future that we may have to sign a piece of paper surrendering our rights and confirming we have read their 10 pages of TC's before entering a store to shop.


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momgoingbroke said:MarilynKay said: Now, if you stop me on the way in to WalMart and frisk me, search my purse, etc. Then yes, that would be something I'd be willing to fight right then and there!Uhhh....this is what I usually do at the concerts I work!
different situation, different venue. It's known by most concert goes that they may be searched--In fact it's sometimes even printed on your ticket. The same w/ most college and other sporting events.


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I'll submit to it. At Costco, the person 9 times out of 10 just drags a marker across my receipt while looking at or talking to someone else. It is annoying when you get one who itemizes everything on the receipt when there is a line backed up.


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MarilynKay said:momgoingbroke said:MarilynKay said: Now, if you stop me on the way in to WalMart and frisk me, search my purse, etc. Then yes, that would be something I'd be willing to fight right then and there!Uhhh....this is what I usually do at the concerts I work!different situation, different venue. It's known by most concert goes that they may be searched--In fact it's sometimes even printed on your ticket. The same w/ most college and other sporting events.I know. I was just mentioning it because I do it so much. Every now and then we get someone that complains and I just hand them off to the supervisor so I can keep my line moving. Sometimes it is the first time someone has been to a concert and they just don't get why we do that.


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dairymtu said:I can see a time in the future that we may have to sign a piece of paper surrendering our rights and confirming we have read their 10 pages of TC's before entering a store to shop. No worries. Bush has made it so that your every move will be known.


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I'm one of those punks who often, but not always, breeze by and say "no thanks" to these checkers. I recall reading somehwere that Costco gets away with this because of their membership nature.

My take is this, in California a store employee can't stop you for shoplifting unless they have a reason to believe you did so. If they do stop you, and can't provide any reasonable cause, you can sue them for false imprisonment. Stopping you when you want to leave would also fall under that, at least that would be my non-binding opinion.

Here's a bit more info

BTW I'm much more inclined to stop if the cashier tells me before hand to have my receipt ready upon exit. If I've put it in my wallet (where all my receipts go) then I'm very unlikely to stop. Unless MsMojo is with me. The attitude of the exit employee also is a factor in my attitude, a smile or pleasant disposition goes a long way.


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Manager deserves to get fired. Hopefully this will set precedent and retailers will realize that you cant have an 80 yo geezer watch you checkout 20 feet from him and then ask to see your receipt essentially calling you a thief while the employees are throwing boxes out the back door.


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If this guy's description of his arrest is correct, it sounds like the police officer is in desperate need of proper training. No one employed as a police officer should be that clueless about the law.


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In CA at BB they stop you at exit if you are taking a laptop box out. Is that legal?


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MarilynKay said:
last I checked, no one has the "right" to shop ANYWHERE. It is a privilege.

If YOU know (and most people do by now) that a store is going to stop you on the way out and check your receipt, then WHY even go in there? Unless, you're going in there to test the limits and see just how far the situation will go. That reminds me of children (mine included)--they know the rules, but occasionally will push and push and push to see how far they can go. Circuit City is not the only electronics store, Costco is not the only warehouse store, WalMart is not the only "big box" store, etc. If you aren't willing to play by their rules when you go there (again this is assuming you know the rules) then don't shop there!
Yep--we all have rights! I have the right NOT to shop somewhere that I disagree with their policies. I have the right to just say no! And while that may not make a lot of difference in a store's profit margin--at least *I* will have made a stand in an ethical and moral manner that doesn't involve being arrested.

The store is committing a few crimes by forcing people to show receipts. They can ask, that is not a crime. But they can not enforce it. Doing so is an invasion of privacy, illegal search, and holding someone against their will.

The only stores that can get away with that are stores are private stores that require memberships.

Last I checked, Circuit City isnt a private store. If Circuit City has the best prices, then there is no reason that someone can't go in and buy something without being searched.

Personally, I dont mind showing the receipt if it isn't a hassle. Sometimes, though I put the receipt away or there is a long line. I'd rather walk out with my property in hand.


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Corganiacs said:i have to show my receipt at sam's

Sams and Costco are private stores and can ask you to show your goods per your membership agreement. Refusing may cost you your membership.


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