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RS4Rings
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posted: Aug. 1, 2008 @ 7:09p
moonbeam said:kamalktk said:scott1961 said:kamalktk said: They get their birthday, that's a personal holiday. Tyson doesn't want to have 9 days and insisted on 8 for whatever reason. The union could have given up the birthday and kept labor day. The option to remove a Federal Holiday should not have even been on the table. It's not a Religious Holiday just a nice traditional American Holiday. Well, shouldn't that be between the workers and the management? Some people have to work holidays after all.
<nodding solemnly> True. Corgs has to work weekends and holidays.  Sure people work Holidays and we listen to corgs whine about it, but at least it's still acknowledged, This just seems like they are making it disappear. Maybe it's just me but I like traditions and Labor day weekend is one of them |
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pbrittle
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posted: Aug. 1, 2008 @ 7:30p
scott1961 said:moonbeam said:kamalktk said:scott1961 said:kamalktk said: They get their birthday, that's a personal holiday. Tyson doesn't want to have 9 days and insisted on 8 for whatever reason. The union could have given up the birthday and kept labor day. The option to remove a Federal Holiday should not have even been on the table. It's not a Religious Holiday just a nice traditional American Holiday. Well, shouldn't that be between the workers and the management? Some people have to work holidays after all.
<nodding solemnly> True. Corgs has to work weekends and holidays.  Sure people work Holidays and we listen to corgs whine about it, but at least it's still acknowledged, This just seems like they are making it disappear. Maybe it's just me but I like traditions and Labor day weekend is one of them I am fairly new, but aren't you Jewish? Would you take Labor Day over the Jewish high holy days? I am Christian, and if I had to choose between Easter and/or Christmas, I would give up Labor Day. I don't know much about the Islamic faith, but Eid/Il is a holy holiday. |
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bridgeforsale
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posted: Aug. 1, 2008 @ 8:37p
youngranny said:Very disturbing.... Story HereOutrageous move by Tyson, which should lose a ton of business (mine included) as this becomes known. Someone over there wasn't thinking too straight when they replaced Labor Day, a Federal secular holiday, with a religious day. If this were a Christian holiday the ACLU would be in court arguing that Tyson violated the rights of the other workers. |
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moonbeam
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posted: Aug. 1, 2008 @ 8:40p
bridgeforsale said:youngranny said:Very disturbing.... Story HereOutrageous move by Tyson, which should lose a ton of business (mine included) as this becomes known. Someone over there wasn't thinking too straight when they replaced Labor Day, a Federal secular holiday, with a religious day.
If this were a Christian holiday the ACLU would be in court arguing that Tyson violated the rights of the other workers. Did you even bother to read the story? It was the workers who requested the change. |
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discretion
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 11:10a
bridgeforsale said:youngranny said:Very disturbing.... Story HereOutrageous move by Tyson, which should lose a ton of business (mine included) as this becomes known. Someone over there wasn't thinking too straight when they replaced Labor Day, a Federal secular holiday, with a religious day.
If this were a Christian holiday the ACLU would be in court arguing that Tyson violated the rights of the other workers. So should they have replaced Christmas instead? Why Christmas is even considered a Federal holiday is beyond me. It IS a religious holy day, not a secular holiday. |
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youngranny
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 11:37a
kamalktk said:from the article "However, the union leadership did request and receive Eid al-Fitr (which is apparently spelled various ways including Id al-Fitr and Eid ul-Fitr) as a paid holiday in place of Labor Day," So the employees asked for it, and were given it. There are 1200 employees total, 700 of them being Muslim, it was the Muslim community that asked for this. |
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kamalktk
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 11:59a
youngranny said:kamalktk said:from the article "However, the union leadership did request and receive Eid al-Fitr (which is apparently spelled various ways including Id al-Fitr and Eid ul-Fitr) as a paid holiday in place of Labor Day," So the employees asked for it, and were given it.
There are 1200 employees total, 700 of them being Muslim, it was the Muslim community that asked for this. The union represents all employees, not just Muslim ones. The union did it's job, which is to represent the interests of the employees. From the article, the union rep is not named Osama Mohammad Hussein Bin Laden, but "Randy Hadley". It's telling you're not concerned as well about Chick-fil-a being closed Sundays because of the founder's religious beliefs. Please take your bias elsewhere. |
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youngranny
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 12:15p
This has nothing to do with bias this has to do with what is right and what is wrong. I know many, many people who work at this plant personally. They and myself have no qualms with any religion or people it is the fact their holiday has been taken away and replaced with a Muslim religious holiday. Some of these folks have been at this company for 17,18 and 19 years and are outraged at what Tyson has done. Ultimatley it was Tyson's decision to take this holiday, they have the final say so. |
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kamalktk
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 12:19p
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RS4Rings
- Senior Member - 7K
posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 1:14p
pbrittle said:
I am fairly new, but aren't you Jewish? Would you take Labor Day over the Jewish high holy days? I don't take off the Jewish Holidays, I have a Jewish employee who does and he uses either his vacation or sick time. |
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HokieOkie
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 2:43p
Even more disturbing..I read OP's name as Youngtranny... |
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Kandykornhead
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 3:00p
kamalktk said:Some people have to work holidays after all. Word. I work all weekends and many holidays like Easter, Christmas, Thanksgiving, Near Year's Eve, Good Friday. Even so, I can't complain because I never miss church!  Personally, I don't believe Muslims worship the true God (how's that for intolerance?) but I sure don't begrudge them asking to have a particular day off. Tyson Foods can do whatever it wants (or whatever it's shareholders want) within the laws where it operates. |
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momgoingbroke
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 3:07p
My only issue is the irony of giving of Labor Day. To me, that day is set aside to honor workers, yet these people have to work. Couldn't they have yanked Presidents Day or MLK Day? It's also another day that working parents have to find and pay for childcare because their kid is out of school while they are working. |
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Kandykornhead
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 3:12p
momgoingbroke said: Couldn't they have yanked Presidents Day or MLK Day? Yeah right. |
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momgoingbroke
- Thrifty Member
posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 3:19p
Kandykornhead said:momgoingbroke said: Couldn't they have yanked Presidents Day or MLK Day?
Yeah right.You may be correct. A few years ago, the policy in my school district was that if a snow day happened, the very next holiday would be forfeited to make up the time. So, it snowed one year and MLK was the next holiday but 'some' in our community complained so much, that the district scrapped the plans to have school on MLK day and instead we made up the snow day on President's day. Go figure. The very next year, the district rewrote their snow day policy and MLK day is now way down the list of days that will be used for make-up days. Not to worry though, because we only average about one snow day every other year. MLK Day is basically untouchable. |
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RS4Rings
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 3:42p
We don't give off MLK day at my company, A few employees do take it off but once again they use vacation or sick time for it |
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moonbeam
- Senior Member - 3K
posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 3:59p
Kandykornhead said:Personally, I don't believe Muslims worship the true God (how's that for intolerance?)
More ignorance than intolerance, actually. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all Abrahamic religions, descending from the same spiritual source. So, if you don't believe Muslims worship the "true god," then you don't believe Christians and Jews do, either.
but I sure don't begrudge them asking to have a particular day off. Tyson Foods can do whatever it wants (or whatever it's shareholders want) within the laws where it operates. ITA. There's nothing disturbing about management giving the employees what they requested. |
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RS4Rings
- Senior Member - 7K
posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 4:16p
moonbeam said:
ITA. There's nothing disturbing about management giving the employees what they requested. But I'm very sure that does not apply to all employees. What about the ones who were against it? Many like that Monday Holiday to do one last vacation before School starts. But I guess the majority won, Kind of sucks when Americans become the minority here. Well at least Hormel will never have this problem |
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Kandykornhead
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 4:22p
Pyeed for mod baiting. Sorry. I took that stuff to PM!! |
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MadAnthony
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posted: Aug. 2, 2008 @ 6:53p
kamalktk said: Well, shouldn't that be between the workers and the management? Some people have to work holidays after all. Word. I think I've worked Labor day every year since '01, when I was still a student. I work for a college, and labor day weekend is also move-in weekend, when the students come back to campus. While it is a holiday, we are required to work at least one day that weekend, and I always offer to work all three, since I get overtime for it. |
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