momgoingbroke said:bridgeforsale said:discretion said:bridgeforsale said:youngranny said:Very disturbing.... Story HereOutrageous move by Tyson, which should lose a ton of business (mine included) as this becomes known. Someone over there wasn't thinking too straight when they replaced Labor Day, a Federal secular holiday, with a religious day.

If this were a Christian holiday the ACLU would be in court arguing that Tyson violated the rights of the other workers.So should they have replaced Christmas instead? Uh, that's a non sequitur. I said nothing about Christmas.

Why Christmas is even considered a Federal holiday is beyond me. It IS a religious holy day, not a secular holiday.FYI, Christmas is a Federal holiday because Congress enacted it into law. Don't take jmy word, you can look it up yourself.Christmas is now more of a "stimulate the economy" day and not a holy day. Everyone knows that!

not so, every christmas I read the TRUE christmas story and around these parts the TRUE reason for the season gets noticed more. but this is the state than doesn't "free the vibes" for women.

SleazyBastard said:bridgeforsale said:I doubt very much these folks are interested in becoming citizens, otherwise they'd be adopting American values by (for instance) observing the same American holidays the rest of us celebrate. I'm sure there are Somali refugess who want to become Americans, but they don't seem to in the majority among those who voted to ditch Labor Day.
So which holiday should they have given up?
Birthday
New Year's Day
Martin Luther King Jr. Day
Memorial Day
Independence Day
Thanksgiving Day
Christmas Day
Labor Day

No matter which holiday you choose to give up, someone's going to have a problem with it. Since 700 or the 1200 employees are Muslim, they could easily have voted to get rid of Christmas, since Christmas has the least significance for Muslims, but they didn't. They chose the holiday which most Americans celebrate on the weekend.

Goodwill gestures like this are more effective at ending terrorism than dropping bombs. Do you want to bet that there are now 700 Muslims who are less likely to support the terrorists? When the fanatics call for all Muslims to kill the evil Americans, I can think of 700 Muslims who will ignore the call.Rather than accomodate people who you fear might support terrorism, doesn't it make more sense to invite Muslims and others who are pro-American in the first place?

StarPilot said:I wonder what would happen to an American worker in Saudi Arabia,celebrating Christmas,or being caught with a Bible?

A visit from the Mutaween no doubt.

kamalktk said:formattc said:StarPilot said:I wonder what would happen to an American worker in Saudi Arabia,celebrating Christmas,or being caught with a Bible?

A visit from the Mutaween no doubt.
I'm sure there are churches on our military bases as well. So the correct answer is likely nothing.

We don't have much of a military presence in Saudi anymore because of this:

CNN said:Exiled Saudi Osama bin Laden has cited the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia as a core grievance in his self-proclaimed holy war against the United States. Fifteen of the 19 September 11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, according to the U.S. government.

From this article.

The Saudis basically caved to Al Queso and UBL after 9/11.

scott1961 said:kamalktk said:
They get their birthday, that's a personal holiday. Tyson doesn't want to have 9 days and insisted on 8 for whatever reason. The union could have given up the birthday and kept labor day.
The option to remove a Federal Holiday should not have even been on the table. It's not a Religious Holiday just a nice traditional American Holiday. Seems we are losing our Country a bit at a time

Huh? So you'd be for removing Christmas instead of Labor day?

camiolo said:scott1961 said:kamalktk said:
They get their birthday, that's a personal holiday. Tyson doesn't want to have 9 days and insisted on 8 for whatever reason. The union could have given up the birthday and kept labor day.
The option to remove a Federal Holiday should not have even been on the table. It's not a Religious Holiday just a nice traditional American Holiday. Seems we are losing our Country a bit at a time

Huh? So you'd be for removing Christmas instead of Labor day?

christmas is religous holiday, as others are, they should all stay. I say for those that are offended because of the "muslim" holiday being reconized as christian ones are (root cause I think), just let em work that day cleaning factory or something. let em do something that has to be paid to outside contract service.

StarPilot said:I didn't know that. Saudi is still getting a church with the king's blessing though.Who is going to go to the church build with the kings blessings?
You'd have to be crazy to walk out of that church,and be identified,or have death wish.

Damn topic alerts!

FrugalFreak said:
that is why I would never go! and in my opinion, DUBAI, Saudi, other islam countries are on a mission to dethrone america as superpower and more. They act like our freind, but saudi is full blown enemy.
With friends like them who needs enemies? But doubtful a Country still living a few hundred years behind the times is going to become a superpower. At some point oil will no longer be needed and they will go back to just desert

momgoingbroke said:FrugalFreak said: ...in my opinion, DUBAI, Saudi, other islam countries are on a mission to dethrone america as superpower and more. They act like our friend, but saudi is full blown enemy.I've never understood why America needs to be a superpower anyway! Can't we be satisfied with just being a power?? Must we have the biggest, baddest, bestest of everything to everyone? No wonder why so many countries see us as arrogant!Especially after we had to save their asses several times through history.

momgoingbroke said: I've never understood why America needs to be a superpower anyway! Can't we be satisfied with just being a power?? Must we have the biggest, baddest, bestest of everything to everyone? No wonder why so many countries see us as arrogant!
Somebody is going to take that role, Who would you prefer it be?