Fort Hood

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I was stationed here for a year, my thoughts and prayers for the family of the dead and wounded

Obviously, our Military_ should not have weapons.

I heard on the radio the major's name is something like Hussein or Hassan?

There is talk that multiple shooters were involved. While absolutely horrible, my mind can kind of wrap around the idea that for whatever reason the major just lost it and went nuts. Multiple shooters implies this was a planned event where multiple people not only knew about it, but decided it was a good idea to participate....wtf?

The gunman was a psychiatrist.

I have a theory that a number of people who go into psychiatry are themselves nuts.

Now it's being reported that the suspect is in custody - in stable condition - and that he allegedly sympathized with suicide bombers in writing.

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soundtechie said: HawkeyeNFO said: Off to Leavenworth for Hasan, where he is being assigned for his first joint tour. A member of the Military commiting a seditious act? That guy has a chair in his future, the kind that you have to plug in.Some of the people talking about him are talking about his stressers and the stuff he had to hear from the soldiers...as if we should feel sympathy for him. I am sure his job was tough, but as a shrink, he had resources he could use. All he had to do was ask. Not an easy task, but isn't it what he would prescribe?

momgoingbroke said: soundtechie said: HawkeyeNFO said: Off to Leavenworth for Hasan, where he is being assigned for his first joint tour. A member of the Military commiting a seditious act? That guy has a chair in his future, the kind that you have to plug in.Some of the people talking about him are talking about his stressers and the stuff he had to hear from the soldiers...as if we should feel sympathy for him. I am sure his job was tough, but as a shrink, he had resources he could use. All he had to do was ask. Not an easy task, but isn't it what he would prescribe?

I feel plenty sorry for him. I feel sorry for him because he's gonna get executed, and probably after only a short stay in prison.

katx said: Xnarg said: Obviously, our Military_ should not have weapons.

I heard on the radio the major's name is something like Hussein or Hassan?I just love these type of threads. It just reveals so much about various posters.

"Hussein", "Hassan", they are sound the same anyways.

xnarg posted that in real time... your 5th quarter talk is crap!

nanosoft said: katx said: Xnarg said: Obviously, our Military_ should not have weapons.

I heard on the radio the major's name is something like Hussein or Hassan?I just love these type of threads. It just reveals so much about various posters.

"Hussein", "Hassan", they are sound the same anyways.

xnarg posted that in real time... your 5th quarter talk is crap!I do not get your point. How does timing affect my point? I say the choice of "Hussein" was not an accident at all. But if you believe it is innocent the you are a better person that I am.

michal1980 said: katx said: nanosoft said: katx said: Xnarg said: Obviously, our Military_ should not have weapons.

I heard on the radio the major's name is something like Hussein or Hassan?I just love these type of threads. It just reveals so much about various posters.

"Hussein", "Hassan", they are sound the same anyways.

xnarg posted that in real time... your 5th quarter talk is crap!I do not get your point. How does timing affect my point? I say the choice of "Hussein" was not an accident at all. But if you believe it is innocent the you are a better person that I am.

Why is it revealing? If you were listening on the radio, depending on the signal, reporter, and time of story, how they pronuced the guys name, to hear hussein instead of hassen is not hard.

its not like the guys name was smith, and xrang fliped that to hussein.


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your post
IMHO it reveals way more about you then xnarg.

As I mentioned in the other post, if you believe that it was innocent, you are a better person than I am . But it is not as if I joined this forum yesterday and do not know the personalities. For example, if someone is obsessed with BET and Ebonics, I draw certain conclusions.

And I am ok with your claim that my post reveals more about me. Fair is fair.

While I think it is wrong to hear a name and immediately associate it with some negative or positive trait, event, or culture, it does happen. I am guilty of hearing that name yesterday and thinking could this guy be part of a bigger plot or movement? It happens, but we cannot let our initial thoughts close our mind so that when the real story comes out, we hear what we want to hear (think the recent 'birthers' movement).

turtlebug said: Thank goodness for Officer Kimberly Munley of the Fort Hood Police Department, who was a first responder and who shot Hasan four times, stopping the carnage.Amen top that.

How long did it take before Munley got a chance to stop Hassan? I am amazed (and thank God) that more people are not killed in these situations.

MadAnthony said: The gunman was a psychiatrist.

I have a theory that a number of people who go into psychiatry are themselves nuts.

ITA. It does appear that unhinged people tend to be attracted to that career field.

nanosoft said: turtlebug said: Thank goodness for Officer Kimberly Munley of the Fort Hood Police Department, who was a first responder and who shot Hasan four times, stopping the carnage.
He's Paralyzed... Nice shot Kimberly!

Excellent, he'll put up less of a struggle when they put the needle in his arm.

The golden question: Would you
A) Kill a murderer knowing he had a quick death.. and didnt really pay for his crimes.
or
B) Tell a murderer he will die after 10 years.. and let him live in a small jail cell with few amenities till his previously announced death sentence. This option would cost tax payers but would also make him suffer.

I say (A). Who cares if he dies now and doesnt suffer or dies later and suffers.

TxAggieJen said: Said in the New York times that his family came to the U.S. from Jordan. I'm wondering if we'll hear something about him being connected to terrorists in the near future.Nonsense, I say, complete balderdash and friberrygibbery. A lot of unfounded rumors are coming from places like FoxNews in regard to the alleged shooter's background and supposed motives. Well, I just went to the New York times website and found NOT ONE of those scurrilous accusations mentioned.

Things such as the report that the alleged shooter made some kind of battle cry (something like Ollie Ollie Oxenfree) as he began shooting. Or that he "came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades."

Which of course is all made up nonsense, for if it were true then the real journalists at the New York Times would report it. But they didn't, so it's not.

NYT DID mirror a CNN comment that "a cousin of Major Hasan said that he took 'flak' for being of Middle Eastern origin."

In other words, it's all OUR fault. See, I knew I could count on CNN and the New York Times to get to the bottom of things.