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Sounds like we all need to opt-out. I don't see the option yet but maybe it's not an available choice until it goes into effect. (unless someone else can find it?)

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airtommy: More discussion of this issue in this Finance thread http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1223689/

There's a (justified!) pending Class Action against eBay/Paypal for eBay essentially forcing their users to use PayPal. Google it.

I'm sure this, and last month's similar notice from eBay, is related to the Class Action.

Has anyone actually opted out? I *want* to, but I don't want my eBay accounts zapped because I won't agree to their rules.

The address you have to write to to opt out is some shitty tract home in Utah. WTF?

2778 W. Shady Bend Lane
Lehi, UT 84043

I'm not sure how eBay has managed to fly under the radar for so long in regards to fair-play and being a virtual monopoly. Having said that, Google Wallet etc are just as bad by having the EXACT same fee structure, creating no competition (like gas prices really). The whole freaking industry needs a shake up.

ganda said:   
The address you have to write to to opt out is some shitty tract home in Utah. WTF?

2778 W. Shady Bend Lane
Lehi, UT 84043

Bizarre, it is a residential address. Check it on google maps. Someone should check to see if this house is zoned for a commercial busines and whether or not eBay has a business license for at this address.

Here's a link to the requirements which must be met for a home based business:

http://www.lehi-ut.gov/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Home-Occupatio...

Form for requesting records from Lehi city:

http://www.lehi-ut.gov/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Records-Reques...

More discussion of this issue in this Finance thread.

fishie74 said:   Google Wallet etc are just as bad by having the EXACT same fee structure, creating no competition (like gas prices really).

And Google somehow manages to provide significantly WORSE customer service to sellers than Paypal.

I don't think it is a fair rule.why a simple deal become so complex.

American Express is doing the same thing with their credit cards.



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