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comprx
Senior Member - 4K
posted: Oct. 17, 2012 @ 8:30p
Guam is a U.S. territory -- you can priority mail it there if it's a reasonable size.
Boxcutter
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 17, 2012 @ 8:41p
comprx said: Guam is a U.S. territory -- you can priority mail it there if it's a reasonable size.
I read it's not covered by paypal, and customs required.
tlaxson
Senior Member - 8K
posted: Oct. 17, 2012 @ 9:38p
As Comprx said, Guam is part of the US. If you specified US only, didn't specify something like continental or contiguous US only, and your buyer is in Guam, then your buyer is qualified to purchase in the eyes of eBay. Why do you not trust this buyer? Solely due to his location?
As far as shipping, if you are able to ship your product via USPS, do so. UPS/FedEx probably can't do it for a cost-effective price. The Domestic Mail Manual (this section) discusses the Guam zip codes that require customs forms. If your buyer's shipping address is on the list in table 2.4.1, and you are sending goods as opposed to documents, then yes a customs form is required. Really the forms aren't too hard to fill out, they can be done via USPS Click N Ship, or I believe PayPal and eBay shipping can do it though I use USPS.com for this on the rare occasions I ship internationally.
Regarding Paypal coverage, standard rules apply. Nothing in the UA specifically excludes Guam. You will need normal proof of delivery. The Domestic Mail Manual (this section) indicates that Guam is not on the list of zip codes where Delivery Confirmation service is not available, so we can assume that it can be used with appropriate classes of mail. Same deal for Signature Confirmation, further down the same page in section 12.2.3
I would highly recommend that you not use any service slower than first class or priority when shipping to Guam due to the location of the destination. Just like shipping to Hawaii, using parcel post isn't usually a great idea if you can avoid it.
Boxcutter
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 17, 2012 @ 9:59p
Auction said lower 48 states only, and buyer has 0 feedback. So yeah I'm suspicious and I don't want to pay extra for shipping.
cnIsfg
Senior Member - 6K
posted: Oct. 17, 2012 @ 11:31p
Unless you checked the US Protectorates, APO/FPO in your excluded shipping locations when you listed the item then as far as eBay is concerned the buyer is in the US and you are obligated to complete the transaction regardless of what you stated in your listing. There is a 99% chance the buyer or a close family member is in the US military and simply stationed there so might consider cutting the buyer some slack and shipping the item. The risk of getting burned by a buyer in the military is really low since they know you can easily cause them far more hassle by reporting them to their CO than they would ever get out of scamming you.
Boxcutter
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 17, 2012 @ 11:57p
cnIsfg said: Unless you checked the US Protectorates, APO/FPO in your excluded shipping locations when you listed the item then as far as eBay is concerned the buyer is in the US and you are obligated to complete the transaction regardless of what you stated in your listing. There is a 99% chance the buyer or a close family member is in the US military and simply stationed there so might consider cutting the buyer some slack and shipping the item. The risk of getting burned by a buyer in the military is really low since they know you can easily cause them far more hassle by reporting them to their CO than they would ever get out of scamming you.
Military people have 0 feedback?
"Just got off the phone- it is NOT covered by seller protection."
Why is there so little information about shipping to GUAM. They should liberate their island from the USA.
Tike71
Broke Member
posted: Oct. 18, 2012 @ 12:06a
Boxcutter said: cnIsfg said: Unless you checked the US Protectorates, APO/FPO in your excluded shipping locations when you listed the item then as far as eBay is concerned the buyer is in the US and you are obligated to complete the transaction regardless of what you stated in your listing. There is a 99% chance the buyer or a close family member is in the US military and simply stationed there so might consider cutting the buyer some slack and shipping the item. The risk of getting burned by a buyer in the military is really low since they know you can easily cause them far more hassle by reporting them to their CO than they would ever get out of scamming you.
Military people have 0 feedback?
"Just got off the phone- it is NOT covered by seller protection."
You do realize that that thread was from 2003? I had a buyer from Guam a couple of months ago and can confirm that the transaction was seller protection eligible.
Yo Ma-Ma
Charter Member
posted: Oct. 18, 2012 @ 3:39p
Boxcutter said: cnIsfg said: Unless you checked the US Protectorates, APO/FPO in your excluded shipping locations when you listed the item then as far as eBay is concerned the buyer is in the US and you are obligated to complete the transaction regardless of what you stated in your listing. There is a 99% chance the buyer or a close family member is in the US military and simply stationed there so might consider cutting the buyer some slack and shipping the item. The risk of getting burned by a buyer in the military is really low since they know you can easily cause them far more hassle by reporting them to their CO than they would ever get out of scamming you.
Military people have 0 feedback?
"Just got off the phone- it is NOT covered by seller protection."
You should be able to tell if you are covered under PayPal when you go to the order detail page, it states it there. If it claims you are OK to ship then there's no reason to worry yourself with old Anandtech threads. I would recommend you take advantage of USPS 1st class or Priority shipping.
If you still don't want to ship then refund in full, contact the buyer and explain why you won't ship and hope you don't get negative feedback. Revise your listing to exclude US protectorates, APO/FPO. I have shipped to Guam in the past with no problems(I only use priority or express mail, no parcel post)
Boxcutter
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Nov. 1, 2012 @ 4:06a
Whatever losers. The buyer never replied or payed so it worked out for me. Guam buyers are frauds.
gyzo33
Handsome Member
posted: Nov. 1, 2012 @ 10:41p
Boxcutter said: Whatever losers. The buyer never replied or payed so it worked out for me. Guam buyers are frauds.
How about we all chip in to send this loser to geography school.
comprx
Senior Member - 4K
posted: Nov. 3, 2012 @ 2:02p
Boxcutter said: Whatever losers. The buyer never replied or payed so it worked out for me. Guam buyers are frauds.Since you've discovered this forum is full of losers, remember not to post here for advice next time you don't know what you're doing.
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