ogg said:what would happen if you accepted a paypal payment from one of these scammers? if they never received the item, would they open a case with paypal against you? or would they just forget about it and move on to the next victim? what would eventually happen to the money in your paypal account?
Typically the scammers like to use stolen CCs or hijacked PayPal accounts. The scammer would not open an INR or SNAD case against you. They got what they wanted - a free product with free shipping. Instead, the CC company that issued the stolen CC will go after PayPal for the unauthorized transaction. PayPal will then go after you for the funds. If the scammer's item never arrives, he won't bother filing an INR. The scammer is out nothing but time. He just moves onto the next seller/victim.

One other potential scam involves the use of an unconfirmed and/or international shipping address and PayPal. PayPal will automatically grant and INR claim if the transaction is not SPP-eligible. So yes, some scammers may file an INR (even if they do get the item), but these are not the classic Nigerian scammers.

if they try to scam you, why not fight back? maybe i'm not thinking this all the way through, though.
How would you propose doing this? Some people do have lots of funplaying with scammers (see this page for one example)/ Others turn over whatever info they have to the proper authorities. Most of us simply use our brains and avoid obvious scams in the first place. There's really not much to be done after the scam has occurred. Prevention is the key.

squanderer said:i think this is a spoof but i'm not sure since i forwarded the email to spoof@eBay but haven't received any reply from them ( i usually get 2 emails from eBay saying it's not them)..

title of email is

FPA NOTICE: Suspicious Activity -Section 9 - xxx@xxx.com

body of email is something about " your bank has contacted us regarding some attempts of charges from your credit card via the eBay system"..blah blah blah

this is the link it goes to..

https://signin.eBay.com.sawcgi-eBay.us/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?SignIn&favoritenav=&sid=&ruproduct=&pp=&co_partnerId=2&ru=&i1=&ruparams=&pageType=&pa2=&bshowgif=&pa1=&pUserId=&errmsg=&UsingSSL=&runame=&siteid=0&ref=vechi&emaddr=xxx@xxx.com

which xxx@xxx.com is my email address...
That's a spoof. The root URL there is sawcgi-eBay.us. That's not an official eBay site. See the WhoIS:

Domain Name: SAWCGI-eBay.US
Domain ID: D7946704-US
Sponsoring Registrar: MELBOURNE IT D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLD WIDE
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: H111908829827444
Registrant Name: Camille Nardone
Registrant Organization: Camille Nardone
Registrant Address1: 71 honiss st
Registrant City: Belleville
Registrant State/Province: NJ
Registrant Postal Code: 07109
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.9737596687
Registrant Email: sawcgiebayus@yahoo.com
Registrant Application Purpose: P3
Registrant Nexus Category: C11
Administrative Contact ID: F111908806336088
Administrative Contact Name: Camille Nardone
Administrative Contact Organization: Camille Nardone
Administrative Contact Address1: 71 honiss st
Administrative Contact City: Belleville
Administrative Contact State/Province: NJ
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 07109
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.9737596687
Administrative Contact Email: sawcgiebayus@yahoo.com
Billing Contact ID: H111908829827443
Billing Contact Name: YahooDomains BillingContact
Billing Contact Organization: Yahoo! Inc
Billing Contact Address1: 701 First Ave.
Billing Contact City: Sunnyvale
Billing Contact State/Province: CA
Billing Contact Postal Code: 94089
Billing Contact Country: United States
Billing Contact Country Code: US
Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.6198813096
Billing Contact Facsimile Number: +1.6198813010
Billing Contact Email: domain.billing@YAHOO-INC.COM
Technical Contact ID: F111908806336089
Technical Contact Name: YahooDomains TechContact
Technical Contact Organization: Yahoo! Inc
Technical Contact Address1: 701 First Ave.
Technical Contact City: Sunnyvale
Technical Contact State/Province: CA
Technical Contact Postal Code: 94089
Technical Contact Country: United States
Technical Contact Country Code: US
Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.6198813096
Technical Contact Facsimile Number: +1.6198813010
Technical Contact Email: domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Name Server: YNS1.YAHOO.COM
Name Server: YNS2.YAHOO.COM
Created by Registrar: MELBOURNE IT D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLD WIDE
Last Updated by Registrar: MELBOURNE IT D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLD WIDE
Domain Registration Date: Sat Jun 18 09:55:31 GMT 2005
Domain Expiration Date: Tue Jun 17 23:59:59 GMT 2008
Domain Last Updated Date: Thu Jun 23 16:28:50 GMT 2005

drstrangelove87 said:hey. here's the link. http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/show/qanda?aID=90627316&aucview=0x30
Is this too good to be true? I'm new to auctions so i don't really know if this is a scam or not. please help.
1. The Powerbook is supposedly "BRAND NEW SEALED W/ FULL WARRENTY"
2. That same item, direct from Apple, retails for $1999.
3. Your offer for $645 is apparently enough to satisfy the seller.
4. Why are alarm bells not going off in you head??? This is totally a scam. If you pay, you'll never see your money again, nor will you ever get the PowerBook.

currah said:I got 2 emails from the same possible buyer for a Canon Digital Elf camera and a Home Theater System I'm selling. I plan on not selling these things to this guy, but I was wondering how can I find there ISP? I've posted the emails below. He even put his phone number down. I know that 009 country code is from Nigeria but it was the "44" that I couldn't figure out. Obviously this is a scam but I'm hoping I could maybe forward this info to some authority? Any imput would be great. Thanks.
If you post the full headers (and X out your info) we can tell you who is ISP/email provider is. Honestly, though, i wouldn't bother reporting it. You may shut down one email account, but there are hundreds waiting to take its place.

http://www.powerbookcentral.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=002874;p=0

is this a scam or not? I recieved an e-mail by him
__________________________________________________________________
Date:Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:55:05 -0700 (PDT)
From:Send an Instant Message "Mike Wallach" <m_wallach@yahoo.com> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book
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Subjectowerbook G4
Tor_strangelove87@yahoo.com

Hello,

I saw that you left me a post on Powerbookcentral that
you might be interested in buying my powerbook. It is
still for sale. the price is $800 firm. That includes
shipping. I only ship within the united states. And I
will only accept paypal as a payment. If you are
interested let me know and I will send you a paypal
money request. If you are still interested please
email me back. As I said in my post the screen and
battery are brand new.

Thanks
--------------------------------------------------------

Seems ok...right?

Interesting Read

Here is an email I just received. Has anybody had any experience with it? Certainly I didn't do what he said.


Dear xxxxxxx,

I am contacting you in order to try and solve a serious situation before it gets out of my hands. It has recently come to my attention that you or someone using your eBay ID have been using my Credit Card information on eBay for auction purposes - which I assume were not legitimate - and big amounts of money were taken out of my account. Please check your eBay user password to see if it was perhaps changed. I have contacted my attorney and he told me that I should contact you and let you know of this problem before I pursue legal action against you and try and solve the situation. At this point I am assuming it is not you who is doing this, but a third party. Please contact me as soon as possible so we may solve this problem or I will be forced to pursue this by legal means. If you do not respond I will assume it was you and act accordingly. I will wait for your answer within the next 48 hours before I move on this

comprx said:That's a new one to me. What's the "xxxx", your real name, your email address, or your eBay ID? Did the email come straight to your email address, or through eBay's system? If it came through eBay, report it to them.

If it were legit, eBay would likely NARU you before this person would get your contact info. The veiled threats with a deadline lead me to think it's not legit. Wouldn't hurt to verify that your eBay account has not been compromised though.
It's a scam. if it was sent through eBay's system, report it to eBay. otherwise, toss it.

stanlyphilly said:Here is an email I just received. Has anybody had any experience with it? Certainly I didn't do what he said.


Dear xxxxxxx,

I am contacting you in order to try and solve a serious situation before it gets out of my hands. It has recently come to my attention that you or someone using your eBay ID have been using my Credit Card information on eBay for auction purposes - which I assume were not legitimate - and big amounts of money were taken out of my account. Please check your eBay user password to see if it was perhaps changed. I have contacted my attorney and he told me that I should contact you and let you know of this problem before I pursue legal action against you and try and solve the situation. At this point I am assuming it is not you who is doing this, but a third party. Please contact me as soon as possible so we may solve this problem or I will be forced to pursue this by legal means. If you do not respond I will assume it was you and act accordingly. I will wait for your answer within the next 48 hours before I move on this
This kind of email has been mentioned in eBay's Answer Center sereval times (such as this example.

If you feel like reporting it, send it to the usual suspects: spoof@eBay.com; report the user for misuse of the eBay email system; etc. If it were me, though, I'd just delete it. Oh, and add that user to my blocked bidder list.

Thanks all. I have reported to eBay.